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Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:33 am
Edited on: February 3, 2012 3:28 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It seems Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer heard the complaints from fellow Big Ten coaches Bret Bielema and Mark Dantonio about his recruiting tactics on Thursday, and not surprisingly, he doesn't care.

According to Buckeye fansite the OZone, Meyer fired back while at the Ohio High School coaches clinic on Friday morning.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

Meyer also released a statement on Friday afternoon.

“I was pleased to take part in a productive, regularly scheduled meeting of the Big Ten Conference coaches today in Chicago," said Meyers in the release. "We had an opportunity to discuss a number of issues with each other and conference staff, including those that have arisen this week. It should be noted that my coaching staff is in full compliance with our recruiting efforts, and no one on this staff did anything illegal or unethical. We will continue to comply with NCAA rules and recruit with relentless effort, especially the great state of Ohio.
 
“I want to thank Commissioner Delany for his insight and leadership, and at this point we all look forward to moving past this week and getting ready for the start of spring football.”

This all started when Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio publicly criticized Meyer's recruiting tactics. Of the ten players that committed to Ohio State after Meyer became head coach, eight had previously committed to other schools. That includes offensive tackle Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State).

Bielema also said on Thursday night that Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez was going to be talking to Jim Delany about Meyer's recruiting tactics. All because of a supposed "gentleman's agreement" -- an agreement that even Alvarez himself denied exists on Friday -- within the Big Ten that says coaches aren't supposed to go after another coach's commits while recruiting.

Which wasn't the way Meyer, or any coach, did things in the SEC, and it doesn't look like Urban is willing to adapt.

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Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:45 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

A verbal commitment is a contract (yes, it is unenforceable, but it is a contract none-the-less), or in more practical terms, a promise. Calling a kid and sweet-talking that kid into breaking a promise is immoral and unethical.
No, its not a contract BECAUSE it is unenforceable.  Either side can back out.  Recruits have changed their mind before, schools have changed their minds before and not offered scholarships.  Verbal "committments" in essence do not committ either side to anything -- that is why they have written, binding, letters of intent that can't be signed until a certain date, to give the players a chance to change their minds.  With that in place, it is really not surprising that a coaching change might have a big influence on where these kids want to go to school and playball.

As long as a "verbal committment" is not binding or enforceable, Meyer is not ethically bound to any "gentlemen's agreement" that he did not make about recruiting these players.  Meyer's job is to, within the bounds set by the NCAA, recruit the best possible football team he can and that appears to be what he is doing.

As a Missouri fan, with no interest in Ohio State or any Big Ten school, I say "go for it" Meyer and to the other coaches, "heck with the gentlemen's agreement -- go recruit and do your job".



Since: Mar 30, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:44 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

just like the last one. Cheating dirty liar. Only thing missing from the last staff is the head coach they turned into the "villian". Not a suprise from the cheating liars called OSU. Now back to the old ways of paying players off etc etc. Just make sure this tatoo shop doesnt seel drugs because thats the only reason they were caught the first time.
"Of the ten players that committed to Ohio State after Meyer became head coach, eight had previously committed to other schools" Makes you wonder what he offered and what he is offering.....



Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:44 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Ha ha ha ... now OSU must be paying them? 

If you know college football at all you will know that any great defense rotates religiously on the defensive line.  And if you know OSU, which you don't, you will know that we only have 2 DE's and both are seniors and one is coming back from a season ending injury.  And if you know these 3 recruits at all, you will know they each bring something unique to the table.  Spence is the speed rusher, Washington will be the Strong-side end and Pittman will likely grow into a 3-technique.  Remember, these kids are only 17 and have a lot of growing to do.  He certainly has the frame to take on some "good" weight.



Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:43 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Wisky's bielema Stole Melvin Gordon while he was verballed ot Iowa...




same thing happens to him - he calls the wambulance



Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:42 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Some of the greatest football coaches ever never had to go after another schools recruits, why is it Meyers, Miles, and Saben do??? Heck even as much of a scum bag Lane Kiffin is he does not go after recruits that have committed to another school unless those commits contact him first with an interest.
Every major conference (except apparently the Big 10) does this already. If you blame anyone blame the kids (and therefore their parents) for committing before they have finished the recruiting process.

Consider this chart of decommits from the last 5 years: http://sportsillustrate
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All major conferences do this except for the Big 10 (though Michigan state and Michigan do show up on the chart for signing a decommit). Kiffen shows up A LOT. He definitely "steals" recruits.




Since: Nov 25, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:42 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I do know that Dantonio recruited Dodson while he was committed to Wisconsin!
Really? Where are the facts that support this statement? Dantonio started recruiting Dodson back in April 2011. That Dodson went on an official vist to MSU in January 2012 after Dodson was officially targeted by Darth Meyers in December is all there is.


Quit soiling the reputation of Sith across the galaxy dangit.



Since: Nov 12, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:42 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

hey sparty....that's what meyer has said from the start....if you can convince them to go to your school after they committ to ohio state then good for you. a verbal and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee. the game ends when they SIGN!!! THE GUY AT WISCONSIN HAS LOTS OF PROBLEMS..ONE BEING THAT HE LOST 6 COACHES...HE MUST BE A JOY TO BE AROUND!!!



Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:41 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Ugh, the argument that Meyer did something "dishonorable" is ridiculous! Number 1: OSU became a much more attractive place to go to school once Meyer signed onto coach. Like him or not, Meyer is a successfull coach and a big draw to potential football players. There is a big difference between a Luke Fickell led team with the same old boring offense and a team coached by a guy who has had success wherever he coached and won two national championships with an innovative spread offense. Just because he called some players who had verbally committed to another school to see if they were interested doesn't mean he did something wrong or unethical. As someone who was recruited by many Big ten schools coming out of high school I can attest to the fact that college coaches call you almost to the point of harrassment until you actually sign ink to a letter of intent. A verbal committment is important to a recruit because it basically reserves you a scholarship if you want it but it by no means implies that you HAVE to go there. I can see how coaches would be disappointed when a player decommits verbally but they have every right to do it. The player needs to do what is right for them, that's why they are allowed to transfer if they are unhappy with their current program. Unless Meyer is shown to have broken NCAA rules that we haven't heard about, Bielema needs to just buck(y) up and move on with the players he signed. Crying over spilled milk just makes him look like a sore loser. 



Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:40 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

FALSE.  Kiffin was in on Dodson as well, he just didn't land him.  Again, don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.



Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:40 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Exactly Redwings1969.  Three of the top 5 DE's do not end up at the same school without there being some money involved right then. These players are 5 star recruits, in otherwords the odds are very great that they would go to the NFL someday. Why would any player go somewhere knowing there is a chance they would be a bench player instead of a starter their freshman year? Especially one that has pro expectations? Oh there was plenty of money involved and it will come back to haunt OSU real soon.


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