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Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:33 am
Edited on: February 3, 2012 3:28 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It seems Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer heard the complaints from fellow Big Ten coaches Bret Bielema and Mark Dantonio about his recruiting tactics on Thursday, and not surprisingly, he doesn't care.

According to Buckeye fansite the OZone, Meyer fired back while at the Ohio High School coaches clinic on Friday morning.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

Meyer also released a statement on Friday afternoon.

“I was pleased to take part in a productive, regularly scheduled meeting of the Big Ten Conference coaches today in Chicago," said Meyers in the release. "We had an opportunity to discuss a number of issues with each other and conference staff, including those that have arisen this week. It should be noted that my coaching staff is in full compliance with our recruiting efforts, and no one on this staff did anything illegal or unethical. We will continue to comply with NCAA rules and recruit with relentless effort, especially the great state of Ohio.
 
“I want to thank Commissioner Delany for his insight and leadership, and at this point we all look forward to moving past this week and getting ready for the start of spring football.”

This all started when Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio publicly criticized Meyer's recruiting tactics. Of the ten players that committed to Ohio State after Meyer became head coach, eight had previously committed to other schools. That includes offensive tackle Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State).

Bielema also said on Thursday night that Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez was going to be talking to Jim Delany about Meyer's recruiting tactics. All because of a supposed "gentleman's agreement" -- an agreement that even Alvarez himself denied exists on Friday -- within the Big Ten that says coaches aren't supposed to go after another coach's commits while recruiting.

Which wasn't the way Meyer, or any coach, did things in the SEC, and it doesn't look like Urban is willing to adapt.

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Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:24 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Oh and it seems very odd to me that 3 of the top 5 DE's being recruited ended up at OSU. Only 2 DE's start, that means someone will be a back up, and maybe even all 3 if there were others recruited before them.  Something very fishy about players wanting to go to a school so they can ride the bench. Makes you wonder how much the offer contained.



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:24 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Urban stated, when he left the SEC, that he was burned out and didn't like a lot of the recruiting practices going on there. He went so far as to call Mark Richt and thank him for recruiting the right way--no negative recruiting and no oversigning. Urban will continue to recruit any kid where there is mutual interest, whether they've verbaled somewhere else or not. But, he does it the right way. This is sour grapes at its finest. Wisconsin and MSU have spent the last few years trying to get back to the top of the B1G--unfortunately for them it looks like it will be right back to the Big 2 Little 10 again pretty soon.



Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:22 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I see the "buckeye nation" sees nothing wrong with the way Meyer does his recruiting. There is a thing called honor and honesty, I know they are foriegn words to the SEC and apparently to OSU. Going after players that have allready committed to another scholl shows you have no honor and the honesty part of it comes with not saying your schools coach is the piece of trash he is.  Will Meyer stay there as long as he did Utah? or maybe just as long as he did Florida? After Delaney gets done with him I bet he leaves after 1 or 2 years. Just think there is even honor amongst thieves, just no honor for some coaches in the NCAA, namely Saben, Miles and Meyer.



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:21 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

In this instance, how did they lie or cheat? Good lord your bitterness is embarrassing. They recruited the best kids they could--your coach thought he could get a verbal then stop recruiting. It bit him in the ass. Get over it.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:20 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Let me start by saying I am a die hard Wolverine and bleed Maize and Blue!  I will further that up with I hate OSU with a passion and have never liked Meyer, I like him a lot less now that he is at Ohio.

However, he is a hell of a coach and a master recruiter.  That was the perfect hire for Ohio and I hope he keeps them on the straight and narrow so not to tarnish the University any further.  Michigan OSU is the greatest rivalry in sports and both sides need to be at full strength....and clean!

Regarding this issue, big deal!  Meyers job is to get the best recruits out there and put the best team on the field.  Every other coach has the same task.  It is not his fault that those two players were obviously not sold on where they had previously chosen, or perhaps they weren't fully sold on the coaches there.  He came in, made a pitch and they swung.  The players could have easily said no thanks and see ya but they didn't.  Not sure how much they were sold, but they sure bought.  FYI Wisconsin and Sparty....you recruit until the ink is dry I guess!  I hope Hoke took note for next year.

It does suck to have recruits diss you before ever enrolling but it happens each and every year.  What I do not like is negative recruiting.  I hope that Meyer does not bring that SEC recruiting technique with him.  Sell them on your own merits and team but leave the other school out of it and you let the kids make their own choice.  I am hopeful these kids chose Meyer and OSU based on positives....although from a Wolverine for the life of me I do not know of anything positive about Columbus.....except for pretty good tattoo shops I hear!  :)

 




Since: Sep 2, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:19 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I don't think there is a big problem with recruiting guys that have not signed yet.  It happens all the time in the SEC and the Big Ten needs to get on that train. 

No one has ever accused Meyer of running a clean program which is why Ohio State is a perfect fit for him.  He is a great coach that will put a great team out there ... period.  




Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:18 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

As much as I hate ohio I mean really hate...I don't think there is nothing wrong with this kind of recruiting. It's a free for all you wanna get the best players possible of course you want to do it within the rules. I just hope that these 2 players Myer got are thugs just like TP. GO BLUE!



Since: Dec 4, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:15 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Did Meyer do anything 'illegal'? Did he break any WRITTEN NCAA rules that govern recruiting? No one has accused him of that, so I assume he has not. A 'gentlemen's agreement'? Child, please.  Miles @ LSU simply attacked Kiel after leaving him at the alter for ND.  I am shocked Dantonio is whining. Not surprized by Bielema.  Barry should tell his boy to man up.  I love the dig at Michigan on their campus version of the 2012 schedule. Let the games begin! 



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:14 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I can't stand Bielma. I hate his that he puts up 80 on terrible teams and then consistantly loses to their tough opponents. I also think that if this beef is about "committed" guys then they have no leg to stand on. Verbal commitments mean nothing in college football. That Paython kid in Southern California verbally committed to 4 schools and signed with a different place on signing day.

All of that said, however, Meyer is a snake in the grass. His teams consistantly lead the NCAA in off the field violations (look up the old arrest numbers from UF) and he's a locust. He drains a program of all it's resources and good will and then he bails as soon as it looks like things are getting hard. I wish tOSU best of luck, but you'll be looking for a new coach in 3 years and your program probably won't be in as good of shape as it's in now.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:14 am
 

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I have no problem with kids changing their minds to go play at a different school. Just call up the coach you made the promise to, explain why you want out of your promise and get the coach's concurrence.
 
What I have a BIG problem with is a coach calling the kids and talking them into breaking their promise. Pittman had been verbally committed to Dantonio for over 5 months and nothing came out that was less than he loved MSU and really wanted to play for Dantonio. Nothing, until Darth Meyer called. The is EXACTLY what Darth Meyer did. He "called and asked." (His own words.) Pittman did not call Meyer.
 
A verbal commitment is a contract (yes, it is unenforceable, but it is a contract none-the-less), or in more practical terms, a promise. Calling a kid and sweet-talking that kid into breaking a promise is immoral and unethical. I give Se'Von Pittman a lot of credit for being classy enough to go to Coach Dantonio and discussing things as part of severing the verbal commitment. Darth Meyer on the otherhand is the epitome of classlessness. Raiding other schools for recruits is just plain disrespectful. It is akin to stealing.
 
When Coach Dantonio left Cincinnati, he announced where he was going and why. He did not try to pursuade kids to follow him but he did tell them that they would be welcomed if they choose to change their verbal commitments. It seems some of the recruits committed to Cincinnati and some to Dantonio. Not many (3 ?) changed their minds.
 
Some of you will never see the difference a kid changing his mind on his own and a kid changing his mind under the influence of a snakeoil salesman. Nothing can help the closed minds in the world.
 
Some of you will think this is just whining. Calling a post whining is not a legitimate counter argument. It seems any time someone has a legitimate complaint, the "whine and cheese" crowd comes out in droves. Try to grow up, will you?
 
Just because the SEC does it...  also is not a valid argument. Remember when your mama told you that just because everyone else jumped off the bridge was not a good reason for you doing it too? Instead of using that argument, just try to grow up a little.
 
There are so many evils going on, so much money and (it's cousin, corruption) in college football that it does not make sense cheerfully accepting nefarious tactics. Period.
 
Wisconsin, PSU,  and MSU along with ND have a legitimate complaint. I would not be against a collective attack by the 11 other B1G Ten school to poach OSU while honoring the gentleman's hands off agreement with each other. I doubt it will happen, though. There are, after all, 11 B1G Ten coaches who believe personal honor is a virtue.
 
Most of those saying it's fine to poach are also those who believe the only thing that is important is winning. Sportsmanship and fair play be damned...
 
OSU better get ready to offer free tatoos if the other 11 schools adapt this range war tactic.


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