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Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:04 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It doesn't sound like Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez is as concerned about Urban Meyer's recruiting tactics the way his own head coach and others in the Big Ten seem to be.

Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema, along with Michigan State's Mark Dantonio, made it clear that they were not fans of the way Urban Meyer had conducted himself during his first recruiting season with Ohio State. Specifically the way Meyer recruited players that had previously given commitments to other Big Ten schools, including Wisconsin and Michigan State.

Bielema also said on Thursday Barry Alvarez would be talking to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany about Meyer when the two met. While that conversation may still happen, if you listen to what Alvarez told ESPN's Joe Schad on Friday, it doesn't sound like he's going to be asking Delany to make Meyer change his habits.

"Urban was very aggressive but there is no pact within the conference not to continue to recruit," Alvarez told Schad in regards to the supposed "gentleman's agreement" amongst Big Ten coaches. "Open season." 

Which makes it sound like if Bielema doesn't want Meyer coming around his recruits, he's just going to have to work even harder to make sure those recruits come to play at Wisconsin, not Ohio State.

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Since: Mar 2, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 7:00 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

When there weren'tt scholership limitations, Woody and Bo signed every major recruit from Ohio and the midwest that they could so other Big Ten teams couldn't get them.  Half those kids never saw the field, but by God they were Buckeyes or Wolverines.  If they're rolling in their graves it's because OSU and UM don't dominate the Big Ten like they used to.

Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 6:28 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Urban is as slippery as the come.  Ask any other SEC school!  He has no problems over-signing, dropping kids who previously committed for late signers, stealing other teams recruits by bad-mouthing and lieing wether or not they are interested in OSU or not.  Urban Liar will do anythiing to flip a kid and I mean anything!  Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler are rolling over in their graves with this liar!!! 

Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 6:21 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Meyer is bringing the SEC greasy mentality to the Big Ten!  Over-sign, tell kids to take a hike who have already committed for late signers, bad-mouth league opponents, and go after players committed to other programs.  Urban Liar is as greasy and slimey as the come!

Since: Feb 23, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 5:54 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

LOL!  It cracks me up reading posts from people who either don't understand the recruiting process or just ignorant to the fact that recruiting is cutt throat!  Gentleman's agreement, wtf.....I've never heard of that bullsh*t!  And why do you ignorant fools keep bringing up Tressel and what happened?  Let it go, Tressel is gone and Ohio St. is paying the price of what happened which I think was way too steep.  Come on, what college student or person wouldn't want a good deal/price!  Geez, it's happenning on alot of other campus'! Anyways, no commitment is safe until that kid signs his letter of intent and faxed to the school!  

Just look at what happened when OSU hired Meyer, their recruiting class improved tremendously!  Meyer has an awesome track record and has won where ever he has coached and won 2 National Championships!  Why wouldn't the top recruits in the country want to play for him!  Ohio St. will now be able to compete and beat SEC teams because he will be able to recruit down South and get the recruits that SEC teams like Alabama and LSU get!     

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 4:27 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

MSUSpartan76 has been whining about this incessantly since Pittman had the good sense to pick Ohio State.  He regularly makes statements that "Mark Dantonio is above those practices" when that is far from the case.  Kyle Dodson was a Wisconsin commit that was actively being courted by both Meyer and Dantonio.  I'm assuming that IF Dodson would have picked MSU over the Buckeyes... he'd have had no issues with the recruiting process.  As MSU only came out a loser in the deal... it's back to whining incessantly.  Wink

Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: February 3, 2012 4:23 pm

Urban Meyer is a Fool

I remember the scene from Braveheart where the old Earl of Bruce tells the younger, "Oppose the rebellion from our lands in the south, and support them with our lands in the north" (or something to that effect).  Meyer could have used the "genteman's agreement" to his advantage.  He could shore up the Ohio and Midwest recruits early (those for whom OSU is the dream place) and expect other Big Ten schools not to meddle.  Then he could have gone south and used his killer recruitment to "steal" key recruits from SEC schools.  Now that he has managed to anger his new neighbors, he misses a great set up.  But, I fear, this is an indication of Meyer's mindset.  A gentleman's agreement comes from guys who expect to live with their neighbors for twenty + years, he doesn't.  He views this as a cut throat, get what you can now business.  I expect him to go for everything and be gone in a few years.  If he wins a NC (like the two at Florida) he'll leave on a "good note" and be a hero.  Someone else can then clean up the mess.

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 4:09 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Sparty, your coaches, including this one, have been pimping kids with the rest of them for a long time. If you're serious in your outrage, then you'd best hie thee to a nunnery, because you are much too naive to be out playing in traffic.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:57 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Crybaby Wisconsin and Michigan State coaches and fans... The only committment a kid makes is when he signs on the first Wednesday in February (or later). If a kid changes his mind on the school he wants to attend, then he really wasn't committed.  Coaches have to work as hard to keep their kids as they do to recruit others. Brett Bielema is the biggest wuss. The same guy who put up 80 against Indiana two years ago and ran up the score against Minnesota also blew two BCS bowl games in the last two years and now he is crying about a recruit changing his mind.... Karma, is a biatch.

Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:43 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Verbally committed means committed. It is a promise and a contract. Certainly it is not enforceable. Certainly NCAA rules do not address it.

A deal is a deal whether is is verbal or written. A man's word should be enough. A man's handshake should be as good as his word. 

How would you like it if, after you propose to your lady, (and it is announced in the papers) dozens of other guys come along and ask her out on dates and ask her to marry them?

How would you like it if you told the dealer you would definitely buy the car and while you were out arranging the loan, dozens of guys went in to test drive it and make offers to buy it? 

Once a player has given his word, he should be considered hands off by all other coaches. If that player wants to change his mind, he talks to the coach to who he made the promise and if they mutually agree, the contract/promise is recinded and the recruit is back in the market.

Of course those who have to win at all costs, to who sportsmanship and fair play have no value, will disagree.

So, all you coaches out there better start offering free tatoos. 

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:53 pm

Barry Alvarez: Recruiting is 'open season'

Uncommitted means uncommitted. Unless a letter of intent was previously signed, these coaches have no beef. Zero. As Alvarez said, "it's open season". All these kids are allowed to shop for the best deal they can get. If you can't compete in that scenario, or chose not to, then don't whine when you lose a propect.  

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