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Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

Posted on: February 15, 2012 10:58 am
Edited on: February 15, 2012 2:39 pm

Posted by Bryan Fischer

If you follow along the timeline the past few days, it's pretty clear we're headed toward some sort of consolidation in college football.

No sooner than's Brett McMurphy reported that Conference USA and the Mountain West were both dissolving in order for remaining schools to start a new league for the 2013-2014 academic year, Dennis Dodd followed that up with a report that WAC commissioner Karl Benson would be taking the same position with the Sun Belt. With no commissioner and a league on its last legs, nobody should be surprised that the Salt Lake Tribune reported Tuesday night that Utah State and several other schools are candidates to join the new superconference spanning the country from the East Coast to Hawaii.

“At this point, we are sitting tight,” Utah State athletics director Scott Barnes told the paper. “We obviously feel we are a strong candidate should [the new conference] decide to expand. The good news from our perspective is that there is clarity in the sense that expansion is likely.”

Temple, Florida International, San Jose State and Louisiana Tech are among the schools who are also mentioned for the unnamed league. With the departures of Boise State to the Mountain West in 2011 and Fresno State, Nevada and Hawaii in 2012, the WAC will have just seven football members this upcoming season and any further defections would probably result in the conference folding.

The new league being formed is expected to consist of Southern Miss, Marshall, East Carolina, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, UTEP and Tulane from Conference USA and Wyoming, Air Force, Colorado State, UNLV, New Mexico, Fresno State, Nevada and Hawaii (football-only) from the Mountain West. If you add in aforementioned candidates then the conference would be right at 21 schools, right in the middle of the targeted 18-24 that are expected to be part of a true coast-to-coast endeavor.

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Since: Apr 29, 2009
Posted on: February 15, 2012 5:42 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

I have posted before about conferences.  I say again - is it really fair that Florida State plays Tennessee Chatanooga?  Or Oklahoma plays Tulsa?  Fine programs, but there's not a chance that either of those two teams will play in the National Championship.  Western Kentucky, Central Florida, San Jose St., Fresno State... the list goes on and on of those that cannot compete consistently with the Big Boys; Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, USC, Nebraska.  Hell, even some of their own conference mates can't compete with them; Washington State, Colorado, Indiana, Purdue.  They might upset some folks at times, but once in a blue moon does not make you a powerhouse, just a flash in the pan.

Let's create two different FBS levels, FBS Elite and FBS.  In the elite category we'd have Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, USC, Oregon... teams that have consistently been in the Top 25 for 20 or so years.  Once the leage is set up - they can only play each other - no more cupcake schedules.  The cream will rise, and sediment will settle.  Movement between the two levels will be fluid - adjustable.

Just a suggestion.

Since: Jan 6, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 5:37 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

It will be great to play UTEP again....I hated that they didn't move with the Mtn. West when the "Big" WAC split up.  But remember, it was the travel cost that made the "Big" version of the WAC split into the WAC and Mtn. West.   It will be interesting to see if this new national conference can hold up.

Since: Jan 6, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 5:29 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

it would be much smarter to take wyoming not utah state.....but it's not going to happen

Since: Oct 17, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 4:45 pm
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Since: Feb 15, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:38 pm

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San Diego State is going to the Big West in everything but football. Not the mighty WAC.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:08 pm
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Since: Dec 31, 2009
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:44 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

So Conference Everybody Else is the new name or Conference Who Cares. There are no real strong programs involved. They might as well have a hundred schools that don't matter. How many schools does it take to match the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac12? Maybe they should name it Conference Not going to be in a BCS Bowl.

Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:15 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

Instead of all these teams trying to form their own gianormous conference, they should just break away from the BCS conferences and form their own subdivision.  You could take CUSA/MWC, WAC, Sun Belt, and MAC, then put them with the SoCon, Big Sky, and CAA to make another whole subdivision.  Then you have some of these schools maybe leave the CUSA/MWC and join conferences that are more geographically friendly.  This whole gianormo conference is just not going to work.  Its too spread out, there's no way it will bring in enough TV revenue to support everyone, and no one is going to want to stay in it.  They are only there because there just aren't any better options for them.  This is why is I were Temple, I would not join this mess.  The MAC is fairly stable, and it allows them to play their basketball and other sports in the A-10.  There is no need for them to join a conference that will likely fall apart in 10 years, if they make it that long.

Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:05 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

Utah State and Air force should go to the Big XII. Utah State has a good football team. They may not come out and dominate year one but within 5 years I believe would be a force.

Big XII North:

Utah State
Air Force
Iowa State
Kansas State
West Virginia

Big XII South:

Texas Tech
OklahomaOklahoma State

Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 1:40 pm

Report: Utah St, others candidates for new league

The general idea I actually agree with, particularly if you end up with 5 'major' conferences of 12-14 teams (sorry Big Least, you're gone) and 2 mid major conferences of 20 to 28 teams each. Then you go to an 8 team play-off.  The 5 majors each get an automatic bid, the 2 mid majors get one automatic bid after a 'play-in' game between the two conferences, and two at large bids. Quarters would be a campus sites, semis would be at campus sites, and the final is on a neutral field. You reduce the number of bowls down to 20 or so, and fill bowl slots with conference championship losers, quarterfinal losers, semifinal losers, and teams with at least 8 wins.

The regular season still means more than any other sport because you are selecting 8 teams from 120. It also takes away a majority of the 'beauty pagent' aspect of the sport by selecting primarily conference champs. The mid majors get their bite at the apple due to the automatic bid. A team like Alabama still has a shot as an at-large even if they didn't win the conference. Fans have to travel only one time, be it the finals or a bowl, because of the games at campus sites.

But right now, the process is too disorganized and chaotic in trying to align the conferences in any meaningful fashion. It would be useful for the NCAA and BCS to step in, but then again........maybe not

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