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Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:25 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

In an interview with the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, school president Gordon Gee took exception to the bowl ban Ohio State received from the NCAA following "Tattoogate." Gee said that the NCAA was essentially out to get Ohio State because it's Ohio State, and that there had been no precedent for such a decision.

"First of all, the NCAA — if we would have given up five bowl games, they would have imposed the sixth on us because they were going to impose a bowl ban," Gee told the paper. "This was Ohio State. This was (the NCAA's) moment in time, and they were going to impose a bowl ban no matter what we did.

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent. There's no precedent for a bowl ban for us." 

I feel like this is where I should point out that never in the history of college football has a university president been fired by a football coach, yet Gee was still worried that it would happen to him, right?

Now, Gee may be right that there is no precedent for the NCAA's decision in this case, but that doesn't mean what the NCAA did is wrong either. Maybe the NCAA did want to send a message to the rest of college football saying "if we'll do this to Ohio State, we'll do this to you too."

Or maybe the NCAA just saw a case in which Ohio State played a bowl game using players that should not have been eligible after Jim Tressel failed to report anything about what he knew for so long, and decided it's only fair to take a bowl game away from Ohio State in return.

The fact is whether you agree with the decision or not -- and I'm guessing Ohio State fans reading this don't, and everyone else does -- there's nothing that can be done about it now. You just accept the punishment and move on.

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Comments

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2012 6:57 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

first of all, tressel whole career is mared by, and look this up knucklehead, " the most ncaa violations of any major program in the ncaa, all levels".
 
Actually, this is true.  But try to wrap your mind around the reason OSU has the most violations is because they self-report every little miniscule thing they find.  Yes, I know, there have been some major problems too.  The point is, OSU hides nothing.  And before you spout off about Tressel hiding something, look where it got him...ushered out the door.  OSU reports everything.  There are many schools who report next to nothing, even if they no of wrong-doing.  Those programs seem to draw far less attention...maybe that is how OSU should operate too.  NOT!!!


second, he lied, cheated, and probably did worse to win those games.

OK, he lied to keep from blowing a federal investigation, and as a result, he is labeled as a cheater.  Fine.  At least that is factual.  Factual, as opposed to your comment about "probably did worse to win games".  Now you're just making crap up.  Provide facts and I will take you seriously.  BTW, your school did get caught cheating to gain an advantage on the field.  Pots and kettles, scUMbag.

what is the all time record between our schools, lol, one guess, it is not owned by the suckeyes


At least this is factual.  Yes, scUM has a lead in the series.  Here is another factoid:  scUM's lead in the series was generated prior to WWI.  Yep, those days of flying wedge formation football are truly relevent.



Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 6:17 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

ha, i love osu fans.  shortest memories alive!  first of all, tressel whole career is mared by, and look this up knucklehead, " the most ncaa violations of any major program in the ncaa, all levels".  second, he lied, cheated, and probably did worse to win those games. I mean a leopard does not change his spots, oohhh poor akron.  laslty, what happen in teh 90's to you guys, or yeah, 2-8 vs uofm, lol and what is the all time record between our schools, lol, one guess, it is not owned by the suckeyes, lol doom on your suckeyes, and we beat you in basketball now, lol.  let me get my violin out for you poor guy



Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 5:51 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Terrell Pryor has changed the face of Ohio State football forever. Yes, Jim Tressel did fail to admit he was informed by a booster of "tattogate" and later lied about it. Let's not forget that the NCAA bowed to pressure from the Sugar Bowl and allowed those involved to play in their bowl game in the name of ratings and the almighty dollar. Who going to punish the NCAA ?



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2012 4:45 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

I was just wondering.  Based on most of the posts here, the reason for the Bowl Ban and other Sanctions is because the head coach either lied, or did not self report.  If that is the case, and that same punishment is dealt to every other school where a head coach lied or did not self report, would there be any bowl games? 



Since: Dec 2, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:22 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

  Hockey fan said it pretty well somebody had to be first.  Let's face it Tressel lied to the NCAA, it was about something relatively small and had Tressel come clean he'd have had to sit those guys for a couple of games had them back before the schedule got tough and boom OSU is off to a great season and its business as usual.  Tressel tried to circumvent the system, got caught so now he (and the program) have to pay a price.  

  Thing that bothers me though is that the NCAA okay'ed those players to play in the Sugar Bowl.  I know it was all about money, because without them support for the game would have collapsed, still if the NCAA wants to be looked at as the righter of wrongs, they can't pick and choose how and when they right the wrongs.  There has to be some consistency, but then that might be too much for the NCAA to handle.  They prefer to pick and choose how and when they mete out punishment and to make those decisions in secrecy.  

  As for Penn State, sorry I don't see this as a sports issue.  In my opinion the NCAA has no business being even involved in that deal. What happened at Penn State was a travesty and should have never happened, but its a matter for the court system and the perps involved (along with accomplices if any).  I consider those that covered it up as accomplices.  It's not an issue of an unfair playing/recruiting advantage it's an issue (allegedly) of a sick individual and those that enabled his OFF FIELD behavior.  I'd be very disappointed if the NCAA played any role whatsoever.  

For the record I root for the Bucks and the Gators.  



Since: Aug 24, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:05 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Tom Fornelli should get fired for his take on this.

I do disagree with Gee's take that the NCAA did this becuase "it's Ohio State."  The NCAA did this becuase that's all they know how to do.  There are 3 givens in life, death, taxes, and the NCAA will fine and sanction you whenever they can.

Wonder what kind of punishment they come up with for Penn State, can't wait to see how that train wreck unfolds!  Laughing



Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 2:20 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Gee should accept and fire the AD



Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 2:18 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Gee is an attorney, so he clearly understands how a precendent gets set......a new situation arises that has not been seen before, and a governing/ruling body makes a decision that sets a precedent for the next entity that commits the same or similar infraction.  This was not an Ohio State issue, this is a problem with the culture of NCAA athlete's and the institutions that "employ" them, along with the biggest driving factor - MONEY.  Whether it is the schools need to make sure they win at all costs in order to land a new TV deal or more bowl money or the student athlete trying to get "theirs" before (or if) they make it to the next level.

Ohio State got caught with their pants down, they were breaking rules and eventually when you do that, you will get caught.  Here's an idea, quit breaking the rules and you have nothing to worry about.  I love when institutions get caught in a violation and they in turn blame the NCAA for calling it out.........that's like speeding everyday on your way to work and then getting mad at the police on the one day they catch you.  You break the rules, you pay the price.



Since: Jun 6, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 2:06 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent. There's no precedent for a bowl ban for us."



Well there is now!!! 



Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 1:03 pm
 

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

I'm an OSU fan and I expected the ban. After all the media attention there was no way it wasn't going to happen. Gee should know that the NCAA does not go by any precedent when rendering their decisions. Thus they shouldn't expect them to abide by any precedent anyhow. Gee and Smith need to shut their damn pie holes and move on. The NCAA isn't going to take the bowl ban away because the university brass are all whining like little girls. Shut your mouth, take your punishment like a man and move on. Go Bucks!


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