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Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:25 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

In an interview with the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, school president Gordon Gee took exception to the bowl ban Ohio State received from the NCAA following "Tattoogate." Gee said that the NCAA was essentially out to get Ohio State because it's Ohio State, and that there had been no precedent for such a decision.

"First of all, the NCAA — if we would have given up five bowl games, they would have imposed the sixth on us because they were going to impose a bowl ban," Gee told the paper. "This was Ohio State. This was (the NCAA's) moment in time, and they were going to impose a bowl ban no matter what we did.

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent. There's no precedent for a bowl ban for us." 

I feel like this is where I should point out that never in the history of college football has a university president been fired by a football coach, yet Gee was still worried that it would happen to him, right?

Now, Gee may be right that there is no precedent for the NCAA's decision in this case, but that doesn't mean what the NCAA did is wrong either. Maybe the NCAA did want to send a message to the rest of college football saying "if we'll do this to Ohio State, we'll do this to you too."

Or maybe the NCAA just saw a case in which Ohio State played a bowl game using players that should not have been eligible after Jim Tressel failed to report anything about what he knew for so long, and decided it's only fair to take a bowl game away from Ohio State in return.

The fact is whether you agree with the decision or not -- and I'm guessing Ohio State fans reading this don't, and everyone else does -- there's nothing that can be done about it now. You just accept the punishment and move on.

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Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 10:26 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

The NCAA knew that there were players guilty of infractions before the Sugar Bowl was played, yet they allowed the Buckeyes to participate. All because of $$$$$ that would be lost if the Buckeyes would have been banned from the bowl. OSU could and should have filed a lawsuit against the NCAA for allowing them to play in the Sugar Bowl and then later banning OSU when the players/coaches involved are no longer on the team. I feel a lot of this comes from the fact that one of the MAIN decision makers on the NCAA committee is the head of the SEC. He wants to teach Urban Myer a lesson about leaving the SEC>

Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2012 10:14 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Actually, Ohio State vacated the win against Arkansas, so they had already taken away one bowl win... and they then decided to take another one. IN that the bowl ban is unprecedented, it's a miscarraige of justice. If you want to make a new policy you make a new rule. But you acknowledge that you can't use this rule against people who have already committed that crime. That would be to enforce the rule retroactively, and that's generally seen as a miscarraige of justice, just as this is. In the over all picture no one cares because it's the NCAA. A bunch of clown/fools by the best of standards. The reason no one is making a big stink, is because no one expects any better.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: February 21, 2012 10:06 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

I agree with Gee. All the talk show hosts and "experts" who say OSU should have self imposed a bowl ban this past year to avoid the NCAA ban this year are crazy. The NCAA was always going to ban OSU more than any punishment OSU laid upon itself. There would have been outrage had they not and the NCAA, as we all know, has no balls.

Since: Feb 21, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 10:02 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

This geek clown needs to stay in his ivory tower and push paper instead of idiotic comments ... yes, Meyer needs to fire him

Since: Jan 20, 2012
Posted on: February 21, 2012 9:38 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

TYhis made me laugh. Ohio State thinks it got hammered. The rest of the college football world thinks the NCAA let it go because it needed someone to do something in the big-city markets of the Big Ten (11?). The entire school lied and they got what is basically a slap on the wrist.

Since: Jan 7, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 9:08 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Your a joke your fan base isnt as large as Michigans.....You suckeye fans are will never be the school Michigan is.Remember Michigan owns you and will for years to come!

Since: Jun 24, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 8:57 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Man, I LOVE all the haters...they make me proud to be an alum of THE Ohio State University.

These comments make my morning, especially ones stating that Ohio State is "not relevant."  Really?  Then why bother posting?  Oh yeah...because we have one of the largest and most devoted fan bases (and, newsflash, we're usually pretty good!)

Hahaha, what a great way to start the week.

And don't worry scUM got your victory over us, but we'll just go back to whooping on you for the rest of this decade ;)

Since: Sep 8, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2012 8:27 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent."
Note to lawyers, constantly reminding everyone that you're lawyers and telling us all how you know everything and the rest of us (even other lawyers and judges) know nothing does not help the negative perception of lawyers.

And to Gordon Gee specificially... give it up and move on man.  First of all, precedent isn't everything, even in law.  There always has to be a first or there can never be a precedent.  The first time someone murdered someone did they get off because there was no legal precedent?? Second, there is plenty of precedent, just not in terms of the exact infractions that occurred (but if that's the definition, there would rarely be a precedent in any case).  Plenty of schools have been hit with penalties, including bowl bans, for breaking rules, whether the rules make sense or are stupid and arcane.  But most importantly, the reason Ohio State got the bowl ban is because they tried to cover it up and hide the facts.  They didn't fully cooperate with the investigators until they had absolutely no way around it at the end. 

Since: Feb 28, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 8:07 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Well, what do we expect THE Ohio State University to say about NCAA sanctions?.....

It is common knowledge that the Not-So-Big 10 is struggling for relevance all across the board...the fact that their football fortunes have dropped in recent years is a clear indication that the "attitude" in the Big 10 was that all they had to do was show up...that is until someone, including the SEC would hand them their collective, arrogant asses on a plate....

There is alot of precedent for giving OSU a bowl ban and recruiting cuts.....they've been there all along.....what more "precedent" do you need?...

YOU CHEAT, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE PIPER......or did they think that just "being" Ohio State, they could escape the gallows?

Nope, the arrogance, from every level at the top at Ohio State is a prime example of a University and a Program in DENIAL.....the inability to accept the fact that the inmates were running the asylum....all in the name of WINNING.......with everything "acceptable", including getting paid and receiving gifts/tatoos/cash/cars, just for being on the team.......

You would think the administration would have learned....instead, they stand in defiance of the "system" they've fought hard to protect.....the dog turned on the "master" and they don't like it one bit.....

Et Tu Brute!!!!!!!        
;     &nbs

Since: Jan 7, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 7:48 am

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban


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