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Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:25 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

In an interview with the Ohio State student newspaper, The Lantern, school president Gordon Gee took exception to the bowl ban Ohio State received from the NCAA following "Tattoogate." Gee said that the NCAA was essentially out to get Ohio State because it's Ohio State, and that there had been no precedent for such a decision.

"First of all, the NCAA — if we would have given up five bowl games, they would have imposed the sixth on us because they were going to impose a bowl ban," Gee told the paper. "This was Ohio State. This was (the NCAA's) moment in time, and they were going to impose a bowl ban no matter what we did.

"I'm a lawyer. I take a look at precedent. There's no precedent for a bowl ban for us." 

I feel like this is where I should point out that never in the history of college football has a university president been fired by a football coach, yet Gee was still worried that it would happen to him, right?

Now, Gee may be right that there is no precedent for the NCAA's decision in this case, but that doesn't mean what the NCAA did is wrong either. Maybe the NCAA did want to send a message to the rest of college football saying "if we'll do this to Ohio State, we'll do this to you too."

Or maybe the NCAA just saw a case in which Ohio State played a bowl game using players that should not have been eligible after Jim Tressel failed to report anything about what he knew for so long, and decided it's only fair to take a bowl game away from Ohio State in return.

The fact is whether you agree with the decision or not -- and I'm guessing Ohio State fans reading this don't, and everyone else does -- there's nothing that can be done about it now. You just accept the punishment and move on.

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Since: Mar 18, 2011
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:47 pm
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Since: Feb 20, 2012
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:46 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Hardly the dirtiest. And, in my humble opinion, they got a pretty good slap. Gee is, however, a hinderance more than anything to the Buckeyes. Not sure what to think about Urban yet - but if one good thing came out of all this, the OSU / MI rivalry is finally back.....

Since: Oct 13, 2011
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Besides the fact this guy makes some fine popcorn....He is one of my favorite luckeyes ever. I would put him up with Schleister, Clarette, and TP. Just the gift that keeps on giving. More wrongdoing is inevitable with this genius at the helm.

Your a lawyer...LOL!, And I am a nuclear scientist, AAHAHAAAHAHAA!

Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:31 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Every time Gordon Gee opens his mouth should result in another year without a bowl for OSU, when he opens his mouth twice in a year, they should also be banned from the NCAA tourney.  When that idiot was at WVU, it was embarassing to hear him speak in representation of the university, I am sure OSU fans feel the same way.

Since: Jan 17, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:31 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

The people who agree with the NCAA are the same people that tomorrow will disagree with them when their school gets in trouble for the same issues or worse.

The NCAA violation:

1)Coach withheld information about NCAA infractions when asked about them(because there was a federal investigation going on that could comprimise the investigation and the players safety because the tattoo parlor owner was involved in criminal activities including drug running)

2)Players TRADED their EARNED possesions for tattoos.

The Penalty

A 2 Year bowl ban which is UNPRECEDENTED(for the SEC fans, that means NEVER BEFORE has that penalty been given).

Money earned at the bowl game given to the not for profit NCAA(NCAA - an organization that has determined that only they can profit off the football players names) 

A coach forced to resign for protecting his players during an ongoing FEDERAL investigation was going on of the tattoo parlor owner, (who was the true criminal here).

15 Scholarships over the next 3 years revoked.

5 players suspend for 5 games for TRADING  their  priceless EARNED possesions for tattoo's.

And The OSU haters still cry for more punishment.

In other news:
PSU and the pedifile- as Sandusky goes to jail wearing a Penn State warm up outfit in chains.
Auburn pays father of Cam Newton 250K plus but NCAA ignores the facts and finds no violation. (I guess cash is king)- Auburn probably paid 300K to quite the NCAA
SEC schools continue to OVERSIGN athletes despite NCAA rules that get overlooked.
North Carolina suspends 13 players going into 2011 season and fires coach for academic violations and agent benefits paid to players.
Miami Hurricanes - and there friend Nevin Shapiro "entertaining players" - NCAA reprimands Jacory Harris and 8 players forced to pay restitution. JOKE
Oregon - Will Lyles the sports agent - helping bring Oregon some of the top football recruits in the country. 

The list goes ON AND ON AND ON AND ON

I got an idea

Instead of letting the NCAA and the schools make money off these players names by doing underground things and hiding the activities.  Maybe we should let the players make money off there names? WOW THERES A THOUGHT

College football can't even determine who the best team is through a playoff.  The bowl system is a joke, where games are played 50 - 60 days after the season ends, in some lame warm weather southern football stadium.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:31 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Teres "The Master of Hyperbole" Minor, you never cease to amaze me.  You are the Uber-Troll.  Thanks for noticing Urban's outstanding top-3 recruiting class.  It took him a mere 65 days to turn a crash-n-burned recruiting class into a phoenix.  Imagine what he will do when he has a full year to work on it.  Keep bringing the hate really shows you care.

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:26 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Rage on, brother!  We all know all too well how ESPiN fondled and cuddled tOSU over the previous decade.  Bristol Palace constantly persuaded, cajoled and flat out sold the deal, every effort short of picketing for the Bucks to make the BCS finals every year they could be perceived in any poll to be within a few spots of 1 and 2.  Talk about entitlement! 

The Big "Gee Whatever" conference seemed to have a birth right for  if not a grandfather clause for automatic qualifying as either the home or visiting team in the biggest BCS payoff almost every season.  Was Tressel motivated?  Yes!  Was he designated for the fall if/when it came?  Yes.  Is he in the poor house?  No. 

Can we the idiot fans and they, the omniscient media agree that Tressel was a very bad apple in an otherwise lovely and tradition rich orchard?  Yeah, right!Wink

Since: Aug 28, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:26 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Please stop talking Gordon!

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:14 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Speaking of precedents....has anyone heard anything out of Sackerlina and their pause for punishment ? I guess that their precedent will supercede any Ohio State precedent by a thin margin . They actually hired the guy that represented the Buckeyes in their own NCAA investigation and subsequent sanctions.... talk about a precedent , that has to be about the dumbest thing i have ever heard of ! LOL , precedents just erupting all over Scandalina these days . The requisite sanctioning that goes on is fluff...its these "groundbreaking precedent setters" that really capture the imagination. One other thing , Gee and the bow tie...whats that all about ? I mean , between bow ties and sweatervests is anybody on that campus aware of fashionistic evolution.. is it like timewarp 1959 in Columbus or what ?

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2012 8:09 pm

Gee says NCAA had no precedent for bowl ban

Yes I am serious, canes99.  Yes, I know that the scandal at Miami was widely reported...for a few weeks.  Nowdays, you hardly hear a word about it, which is how it should be.  If there is nothing to report, then why write about it, right?  In the case of the scandal at OSU, it did not matter if there was anything new to write, Dodd and the boys would rewrite the same drivel day after day, week after week, month after month.  Much of it was factually challenged, but that didn't matter.  CBS and ESPN wanted to keep that story front and center for several months.  If you can't see that, then you are hopelessly blind.

I am not making light of the wrongdoing at OSU.  Clearly there were problems, and the University has owned up to that.  OSU was also fully cooperative with the NCAA (try to keep in mind that it was OSU who reported Tressel's coverup).  Well, everyone at OSU cooperated except for Tressel, but we all know where that got him.  Ushered out the door and a 5 year show-cause.  In short, he "got what his works deseved", as he was so fond of saying.  A step further, I never said OSU did not deserve a bowl ban, merely that there is no precedent for it.  In that regard, Gordon Gee is absolutely correct.  What he and Gene Smith failed to see is that the NCAA was bound an determined to hit OSU in an unprecedented manner.  They underestimated the drumbeat of daily scathing articles from the CBS's and ESPN's of the world, and the influence the constant smearing would have on the NCAA.  The NCAA had to trump up the sanctions in order to save its own reputation...the media saw to that.

With respect to the Miami case, there are a number of similarities to OSU.  For one, coaches were involved in both cases.  Tressel knew & didn't report minor violations.  Miami assistant coaches were in on the freebies along with the players.  In Miami's case, it was coaches in football and basketball.  The differences are in the scope and scale.  Very little of the OSU scandal was the result of improper benefits from a booster, and what little there was paled by comparison to the big buck$ Shapiro was laying down.  Violations by a booster are generally considered to be major.  Also, Shapiro gave money & perks to recruits.  Recruiting violations are also considered to be more major.  There were no recruiting violations at OSU.

Listen, my point was not to bash Miami anyway.  It is more about how the media has treated OSU much more harshly than Miami and others.  A lot more major violations occurred at Miami, but OSU drew far more media scrutiny.  And in fact, despite the issue being resolved by the NCAA, the media scrutiny continues for OSU.  Here we are talking about it right now.

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