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Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:45 pm
 

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Alabama was one of 30 BCS conference schools to recently vote against NCAA legislation that would allow -- though not mandate -- schools to offer multiple-year scholarships over the previous system of annual scholarship renewals. And the Tide football program had declined to offer them this past February, with Nick Saban citing lawsuits issued during the previous era of multiple-year scholarships as reason for the program's opposition.

Despite that stance, Saban told the Tuscaloosa News in a Tuesday story that the Tide would join Auburn and Florida (and, with the legislation's survival of the override vote, likely the rest of the SEC) in offering four-year scholarships starting with the 2013 class.

"We're going to offer four-year scholarships," Saban said. "Our whole conference is going to do it, all the schools, I think. And we're happy to do it."

Though we're skeptical a program truly "happy" to offer four-year scholarships would instead vote to prevent anyone from offering those scholarships, themselves included, Saban again referred to the legal ramifications when explaining the opposition of "some of the schools."

"We had the (four-year) rule years ago, and there were legal challenges to it," Saban said. "So we changed to the one-year scholarship then. I think that was why some of the schools had concerns." 

A four-year scholarship would conceivably make it more difficult for Saban to oversign in February and then "cut" players afterwards -- the Tide have seen widespread departures between spring practice and the start of fall camp each of the last several years under Saban -- but he forcefully denied either cutting players or that the new scholarships would have any impact on that issue at any school.

"We don't cut players," Saban said. "I don't know anyone who does. So I don't think that's an issue ... The player will still have to be academically eligible. He will still have to obey team rules and regulations. And the player is still going to have the same rights and the same appeals process that he has now."

Saban is entirely correct that just because School X has committed its four-year promise in writing doesn't mean Player Y is going to be able to skate through four years of school without worrying about the consequences. (He's also right that this could conceivably lead to some legal appeals here and there.) But given the ease with which schools have dismissed players on one-year scholarships in the past -- it's surprising to hear Saban say he "doesn't know anyone" who cuts players, given that SEC West rival Bobby Petrino declined to renew the scholarships of five different players just last year -- we disagree that nothing has changed.

Even if having a promise of four years' worth of education in writing is still just a promise, that's more commitment from their new schools than those players have gotten before.

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Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 4:37 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

THE DAYS OF RECRUITING 30 A YEAR IS OVER NICK. YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO HONOR THE KIDS SCHOLARSHIPS.
 What are you talking about? Alabama has given out 12 medicals in 6 seasons. Granted it is the most but it still only amounts to 2 a season. 3 ex players came out somewhat disgruntled about it but agreed it was their call and they were well taken care of ... still on scholorship as well as other benefits. None of these players were ever discarded. Was he doing it out of the goodness of his own heart? Probably not, he is stacking talent as deep as he can but it is hardly a huge devious issue that you would make it out to be.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 4:29 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

If you give a guranteed 4 year scholarship it won't be as easy to discard players who don't pan out. Why do you think he is able to oversign every year. Good but not great players who love the school are asked to give up their scholarships so he can sign players he thinks may be better. Eventually that will catch up to him and bama. I wholehardely agree that when you sign a player out of HS it should be a 4 year scholarship. If you redshirt the player he should get a 5th year guaranteed.
I hear this a lot ... get us a list of all the players put on medicals and why. As far as red shirts ... Id say 99% of them know before hittign campus they are going to be red shirted, it's a choice.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 4:25 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

people like you expect too much. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Les Miles, theyre all just coaches. Thats all they are.
I don't believe that at all. A good coach helps his players succeed at the next level , be it in football or life. His main job is to win football games but that is hardly all it entails. I feel Saban probably does a decent a job as any, not sure If he excels or not but I havent heard any life touching stories yet ...so who knows, lol



Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:54 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

Saban has never cut a player or taken away his scholarship. There have been a few instances where Saban knew a kid wasnt going to be able to contribute, so he either offered the kid a medical hardship (which keeps them on scholarship so they can continue to go to school, but opens there spot on the roster) or has helped them transfer somewhere where they can contribute and continue their education. He doesnt just throw the kid out on the street, and every kid he has put on hardship or helped transfer agreed to it. Other people around the league and nation want to talk so bad about Saban and his methods, but you wont find one kid who has taken a med hardship or transferred say anything negative about Saban or what happened. Saban does all he can for these kids, but at the end of the day, he has to do whats best for the program. People like you expect too much. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Les Miles, theyre all just coaches. Thats all they are. The coach of a football team, no different than the guy who coached the football team at your high school. His job is to win football games. When hes recruiting a kid, he tells them and their parents exactly what is expected of them. How hard its gonna be. What the potential rewards are if they do what needs to be done. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesnt. 



Since: Jul 24, 2010
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:52 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

Wrong! This is problem with the SEC. Wrong!


If you think this guy's "just win baby" attitude is just an SEC problem...you are crazy. You know damned good and well the Big 10, Little 12, PAC 17, Boise, Notre Dame, etcs of the world have the exact same attitude...they just aren't as good at winning as the SEC lately.

As for the knucklehead who says he will admit the SEC is better only if they are still dominating 3 or 4 years from now...you are a lying liar. You know damned good and well you will make up a new excuse just like you've all been doing for the last 6 years no matter who is winning, unless it is your team.



Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:42 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

How is that wrong? Unless the university recently promoted him to "Dean of Graduation Success Rates" then everything I said is spot on. He is the head football coach. He is the coach in charge of the football team. Nothing more. 
When he recruits kids to play for Bama, he talks to the parents and promises them just like every other coach in the nation that he will take care of their kid. When that kid is forced out because he didnt make the grade and new recruits want in, that is not taking care of a kid, that is taking care of himself, and his legacy. That kid then goes without a scholarship, and he or the parents end up paying for it.

This is SEC football. Trust me, Saban does not want to go along with this 4 year scholly business. That is a HUGE MONKEY WRENCH in what he has been doing for years.

He couldn't pull that crap in the NFL that's why he's back in NCAA and now he won't be able to pull it there either.

THE DAYS OF RECRUITING 30 A YEAR IS OVER NICK. YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO HONOR THE KIDS SCHOLARSHIPS.Laughing



Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:30 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

How is that wrong? Unless the university recently promoted him to "Dean of Graduation Success Rates" then everything I said is spot on. He is the head football coach. He is the coach in charge of the football team. Nothing more. 



Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:25 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

Saban's job is to win football games. His job is to get the best players he can and win football games with them. Hes not a professor or a dean, whos job is the educational well being of these kids, its to win football games. Sure, he wants them to do well in the classroom so they can stay eligible, but I dont think its a big deal if he suggests that a guy whos not getting it done on the field maybe step away from the team so someone else can come in. His job isnt to make sure these kids get a quality education, its to winn football games and nothing more. Each university has hundreds of teachers and professors and deans and advisors whos job it is make sure kids get a quality education. Saban is a football coach, and nothing more. 
Wrong! This is problem with the SEC. Wrong!



Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:16 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

Saban's job is to win football games. His job is to get the best players he can and win football games with them. Hes not a professor or a dean, whos job is the educational well being of these kids, its to win football games. Sure, he wants them to do well in the classroom so they can stay eligible, but I dont think its a big deal if he suggests that a guy whos not getting it done on the field maybe step away from the team so someone else can come in. His job isnt to make sure these kids get a quality education, its to winn football games and nothing more. Each university has hundreds of teachers and professors and deans and advisors whos job it is make sure kids get a quality education. Saban is a football coach, and nothing more. 



Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:11 pm
 

Saban says Tide will offer four-year scholarships

 It will take more than one or two seasons for the "oversigners" to lose their advantage.

I agree in a couple three years or so when the oversigning is curbed if the SEC is still dominant in football then I will agree they are the best. 


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