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LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Posted on: March 1, 2012 5:30 pm
Edited on: March 1, 2012 7:51 pm
 

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

SEC athletic directors met this week to try and squeeze the league's expansion toothpaste back into the tube of a scheduling rotation that all 14 schools could live with ... and unsurprisingly, they didn't make much headway. But the athletic director at LSU says he and his counterpart at Florida are willing to remove at least one minor hurdle from the deadlock.

Speaking to the Baton Rouge Advocate Thursday, LSU A.D. Joe Alleva said that both his program and Jeremy Foley's in Gainesville are "interested in ending" (to use the Advocate's paraphrase) the Tigers' and Gators' annual cross-division rivalry game. LSU and Florida have met each year since 1971 and were designated as permanent cross-divisional rivals in the SEC's 1992 expansion.

Sources told CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy Thursday, however, that Florida is not currently interested in canceling the series. 

The league is considering doing away with permanent cross-divisional rivalries in an effort to ease scheduling concerns, even though that decision would imperil two of the conference's most storied rivalries in Auburn-Georgia and Alabama-Tennessee. Alleva, however, said that despite his school's willingness to abandon its annual cross-division game, there was "momentum" among the A.D.'s to preserve those two particular series.

“The only way around that is to try to maintain the old rivalries and come up with a solution for those who don’t have them,” Alleva said. “There’s a fine line to doing that.”

Both Ole Miss's Pete Boone and Vanderbilt's David Williams told the Birmingham News this week that they oppose maintaining permanent cross-divisional games, with Williams labeling as unfair a potential compromise that would see only some teams (namely, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee) keep such games.

The leeway of a nine-game league schedule would ease many of those concerns dramatically (while raising others), but Alleva echoed the current prevailing sentiment of SEC A.D.'s and officials in saying he and his fellow A.D.'s prefer sticking with an eight-game schedule--even at the apparent cost of a LSU-Florida series highly valued by many fans on both sides.

Which is why the further A.D. meetings alluded to by SEC spokesman Charles Bloom at the conclusion of this set will no doubt be entirely necessary to iron out the league's scheduling dilemma. The conference continues to face a fundamental scheduling paradox: it wants a six-game divisional round-robin, a permanent cross-division game, and two rotated cross-divisional games (to avoid going a full decade without seeing some opposite-division opponents) ... and still stay at eight games.

Somewhere, push is going to have to come to shove, and it's not a shock a group of 14 men with as many differing agendas as the SEC's A.D.'s would seem to have haven't found where that shove is going to come just yet.

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Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 10:15 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Every BIG 10 school will still have 2-3 games to schedule whoever they want, and believe me, there will be plenty of Akrons, Ohio Us, etc in the mix.
While I'm sure those teams will find their way into the mix considering that the PAC and B1G aren't afraid to play a 9-game conference schedule plus playing 1 game with each other, that only leaves 2 creampuffs per year.  Hardly the same as the SEC playing an 8-game conference schedule and 3 creampuffs now is it?
I am an Alabama fan, but LSU easily had the hardest schedule in the country last year in my opinion, playing an SEC slate, and then playing the PAC 12 and BIG EAST Champion. The SEC Schedules on a yearly basis are much harder than the BIG 10 schedules, just look at the SOS each year.
LSU did have the hardest schedule this year--I don't think anyone was saying otherwise--but the rest of the SEC can not claim the same thing, in fact Georgia had the 2nd hardest OOC schedule of the entire SEC.  Sorry, but PSU wasn't that good so Bama didn't have the second and maybe not even the 3rd or 4th best OOC schedule.  And you are right about the SEC having higher SOS every year than the B1G, though since most of those are based on rankings which are questionable, that may not entirely be true.  Nonetheless, if the SOS was the whole story, Oklahoma State would have played in the championship game this year and that didn't happen, did it?
So lay off the SEC and get your facts right about your own conference. Heck Ohio State couldn't pull out a winning record against the weak ars schedule they had this year.
Yeah, that had nothing to do with being jerked around by the NCAA and playing without half their team much of the season......



Since: Nov 6, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:58 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

would hate to lose this annual rivalry as Tiger fan.
the winner almost always plays for something huge in the end 



Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 6:57 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

This is such a farce. So the BIG 10 is going to play only BIG 10 and PAC 12 opponents each year? Yeah right. I'm sure Michigan and Michigan State are not going to give up the Notre Dame rivalry so easily.

Also, there's no way that they could have all their OOC come from the PAC 12. That would mean the PAC 12 would have to do the same thing, and that's not going to happen either.

The BIG 10 will most likely play their conference slate, with 1 OOC game each year coming from the PAC 12. That way the PAC 12 and BIG 10 preserve their "Rose Bowl" Rivalry against each other each year, which to me is silly anyway.

Every BIG 10 school will still have 2-3 games to schedule whoever they want, and believe me, there will be plenty of Akrons, Ohio Us, etc in the mix.

I am an Alabama fan, but LSU easily had the hardest schedule in the country last year in my opinion, playing an SEC slate, and then playing the PAC 12 and BIG EAST Champion. The SEC Schedules on a yearly basis are much harder than the BIG 10 schedules, just look at the SOS each year.

So lay off the SEC and get your facts right about your own conference. Heck Ohio State couldn't pull out a winning record against the weak ars schedule they had this year. But I guess you are making this junk up about the SEC just to take away from the fact that OSU has nothing to play for this year, thanks to the Administration's decision to play in a low-tier bowl game last year for some stupid reason.

Got to be the bonehead move of the year.



Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: March 2, 2012 5:45 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Sounds like a good idea to me. Auburn and bama need to move to the east and then they can continue to play each other and the AU- UGA game and the all important gump u. - Auburn game can remain. But of course bear bryant has to give final approval.



Since: Mar 6, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 3:41 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

wwoodyhayes, I don't know where you read that but it's not true. The Big Ten and the Pac-Twelve will have an OOC scheduling arrangement involving one game per team every season but a team's entire OOC schedule will not be comprised of teams from the other conference. In other words the MAC will still be in play where the Big Ten involved.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 3:23 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

thats just great lsu....you can cancel the gators game and add another high school team to your ooc games for the easy w.
LSU is not cancelling the game.  This is a conference game, so LSU has no input other that saying we can live without the game if it makes scheduling easier on the conference.  We will still have the same amount of conference games regardless of whether we play UF every year or not.  LSU does have a very easy OOC schedule this year, but we did play Oregon and WVU last year.  Please let me know when was the last time your team played teams as good OOC.  



Since: Jun 2, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 2:53 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

thats just great lsu....you can cancel the gators game and add another high school team to your ooc games for the easy w.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: March 2, 2012 2:51 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Seems to me that LSU has a couple of opponets they could live without, Northwestern State and Western Kentuckey, while Florida could do without Alabama Birmingham, and Furman.

So what's the problem??? Undecided

Seems that both LSU and Florida have these perennial weaker opponets on their schedule, and it would be great in my opinion, that each of these teams/schools play in their conference first, and schedule these smaller programs teams/schools if any other open slots remain.

From what I have read about the Big 10, they will be changing their schedules to play only in conference games, and all of their out of conference games will be schedulig Pac 12 teams/schools. usually, the Big 10 schedules a MAC team, and that seems to be coming to an end.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 2:23 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

While LSU-UF is normally a big game, there is not really a rivalry here.  The only reason LSU and UF are permanent rivals is to keep some balance in the schedules in the SEC.  We already had Auburn-UGA and Bama-UT, so they put LSU together with UF so the top three teams in the east would play the top three teams in the west.  Arkansas and SC were put together because they were both new, and that left the two bottom feeders from both sides to go against one another.  It is be interesting to see how this situation ends. 



Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2012 12:40 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Just seeing this article and haven't read all the posts, so this may be repetitive.  In the 1960s and 70s, teams like Alabama and Ole Miss played during the regular season, but the games did not count toward the conference records.  If the Bama-Tenn and UGA-Auburn games are in danger of being lost, they could still be scheduled as non-conference games. This might help quiet some of the idiots who don't appreciate the obvious difficulty and superiority of the normal SEC schedule by crying that SEC teams don't play strong out of conference schedules.  Any of these four teams would be a nice addition as a non conference games. Just a thought.
 


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