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LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Posted on: March 1, 2012 5:30 pm
Edited on: March 1, 2012 7:51 pm
 

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

SEC athletic directors met this week to try and squeeze the league's expansion toothpaste back into the tube of a scheduling rotation that all 14 schools could live with ... and unsurprisingly, they didn't make much headway. But the athletic director at LSU says he and his counterpart at Florida are willing to remove at least one minor hurdle from the deadlock.

Speaking to the Baton Rouge Advocate Thursday, LSU A.D. Joe Alleva said that both his program and Jeremy Foley's in Gainesville are "interested in ending" (to use the Advocate's paraphrase) the Tigers' and Gators' annual cross-division rivalry game. LSU and Florida have met each year since 1971 and were designated as permanent cross-divisional rivals in the SEC's 1992 expansion.

Sources told CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy Thursday, however, that Florida is not currently interested in canceling the series. 

The league is considering doing away with permanent cross-divisional rivalries in an effort to ease scheduling concerns, even though that decision would imperil two of the conference's most storied rivalries in Auburn-Georgia and Alabama-Tennessee. Alleva, however, said that despite his school's willingness to abandon its annual cross-division game, there was "momentum" among the A.D.'s to preserve those two particular series.

“The only way around that is to try to maintain the old rivalries and come up with a solution for those who don’t have them,” Alleva said. “There’s a fine line to doing that.”

Both Ole Miss's Pete Boone and Vanderbilt's David Williams told the Birmingham News this week that they oppose maintaining permanent cross-divisional games, with Williams labeling as unfair a potential compromise that would see only some teams (namely, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee) keep such games.

The leeway of a nine-game league schedule would ease many of those concerns dramatically (while raising others), but Alleva echoed the current prevailing sentiment of SEC A.D.'s and officials in saying he and his fellow A.D.'s prefer sticking with an eight-game schedule--even at the apparent cost of a LSU-Florida series highly valued by many fans on both sides.

Which is why the further A.D. meetings alluded to by SEC spokesman Charles Bloom at the conclusion of this set will no doubt be entirely necessary to iron out the league's scheduling dilemma. The conference continues to face a fundamental scheduling paradox: it wants a six-game divisional round-robin, a permanent cross-division game, and two rotated cross-divisional games (to avoid going a full decade without seeing some opposite-division opponents) ... and still stay at eight games.

Somewhere, push is going to have to come to shove, and it's not a shock a group of 14 men with as many differing agendas as the SEC's A.D.'s would seem to have haven't found where that shove is going to come just yet.

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Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 4:25 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Steelbucks, you haven't figured out yet that SEC homrs are notorious for making the stats slant in favor of their conference.  When Michigan lost to Appy State, they were horrible, but when LSU beat them later that year?  Suddenly they were Div-1AA champions!
So I'm starting to see, but some of them just make the most ridiculous claims that beg to be corrected.......and I can't quite resist.

  



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 3:50 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

What a shame it would be to let this one go by the wayside.  Florida and LSU have often been a thorn in each other's side.  I remember the 1973 game in Baton Rouge, where as LSU was dispatching Florida, the scoreboard flashed the message "Gator Season Over."  The next year in Gainesville, as Florida was romping over LSU, the Gator crowd spontaneously took up the cheer "Tiger Season Over!"  Then there was the 1977 season, when Florida was feeling pretty good about itself with Chris Collingsworth at quarterback...only to play meet its nightmare in LSU over Halloween weekend. 



Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 2:12 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Steelbucks, you haven't figured out yet that SEC homrs are notorious for making the stats slant in favor of their conference.  When Michigan lost to Appy State, they were horrible, but when LSU beat them later that year?  Suddenly they were Div-1AA champions!  Just another case of the rose-tinted glasses.  No point fighting them; just let them have their moment.



Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 1:44 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Pac12 champion and runnerup ooc games:
LSU, Nevada, Missouri State, San Jose State, Duke and Notre Lame.
If Notre Dame is a tomato can, then Auburn, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee, Miss State, Old Miss, and Florida were tomato cans too last year--and that's more than half the SEC, the supposed best conference in football.  Don't give me the we beat each other up spiel either as Notre Dame plays a tougher schedule than any of them teams virtually EVERY year.
Big12 champion and runnerup ooc games:
Louisianna-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulsa, Eastern Kentucky, Kent State and Miami(FL).
No ranked teams   
So what, rankings are just popularity with a little bit of statistics sprinkled in to make them look authentic.  Miami and Arizona State were as good as half the SEC.
Big10 champion and runnerup ooc games:
University of Nevada-Las Vegas, Northern Illinois, South Dakota, Youngstown State, Florida Atlantic, and Notre Lame.
No ranked teams 
You keep pinging on Notre Dame even though they were better than GT and as good as FSU or PSU.  Other than LSU's games vs. Oregon and WVU, Georgia's game vs. Boise, and possibly the teams that played Clemson (possibly considering how GT beat them and WVU smashed them) the rest of the SEC doesn't have anyone any better than Notre Dame from their OOC schedule.
SEC champion and runnerup ooc games:

Oregon, Northwestern State, West Virginia, Boise State, Coastal Carolina and Georgia Tech.
Oh because it makes the argument look better you want to use Georgia for the runner-up here instead of Bama....I wonder why?  PSU, Georgia Southern, N. Texas, and Kent State just don't look as good do they?  Yet you used Stanford for the PAC runner up....

Maybe that's why the long-time poster got a lower rating than a spammer.......   
   
   

   
   
    
    

   


   

  



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Posted on: March 2, 2012 12:57 am
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Since: Sep 23, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 12:26 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Truly, the SEC conference is lame, they always schedule 'tomato cans".  Never let it be said that the Nazi's were wrong.  "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to get morons to believe it."


Pac12 champion and runnerup ooc games:
LSU, Nevada, Missouri State, San Jose State, Duke and Notre Lame.
1 ranked team(SEC) and 5 tomato cans.


Big12 champion and runnerup ooc games:
Louisianna-Lafayette, Arizona, Tulsa, Eastern Kentucky, Kent State and Miami(FL).
No ranked teams    

  
Big10 champion and runnerup ooc games:
University of Nevada-Las Vegas, Northern Illinois, South Dakota, Youngstown State, Florida Atlantic, and Notre Lame.
No ranked teams    


ACC champion and runnerup ooc games:
Troy, Wofford, Auburn, Appalacian State, East Carolina and Arkansas State.
No ranked teams       
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Big East champion and runner up ooc games:
Marshall, Norfolk State, Maryland, Austin Peay, Tennessee and Akron.
No ranked teams      

SEC champion and runnerup ooc games:

Oregon, Northwestern State, West Virginia, Boise State, Coastal Carolina and Georgia Tech.     

3 ranked teams     
  


So keep on peddling the lies, you seem to have gained traction with all the other cry-babies.  They support you 100% regardless of the facts. 




Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 12:08 am
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

man up and play 9 conference games like everybody else in the country does.....or move Auburn and Bama to the east and Vandy and Mizzou to the west to save your precious rivalries.  It's not that hard to solve this problem.
I agree about their need to play a 9-game conference schedule as well, but if they don't they will continue to be below conferences like the B12 and PAC in SOS calculations.  However, I never thought of simply moving Bama and Auburn both.....I always considered one, but never thought that moving both would fix everything.  Of course, that makes sense, so it's exactly why they won't and the reason will either be tradition or a state law requiring them to be in the SEC west.

  



Since: Oct 29, 2009
Posted on: March 1, 2012 11:37 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

And then what happens to Alabama/LSU?



Since: Oct 29, 2009
Posted on: March 1, 2012 11:37 pm
 

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Yes, you hear about the season opening game all season long. And then you get to hear about the BCS NC the remaining time of the year.


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