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LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Posted on: March 1, 2012 5:30 pm
Edited on: March 1, 2012 7:51 pm

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

SEC athletic directors met this week to try and squeeze the league's expansion toothpaste back into the tube of a scheduling rotation that all 14 schools could live with ... and unsurprisingly, they didn't make much headway. But the athletic director at LSU says he and his counterpart at Florida are willing to remove at least one minor hurdle from the deadlock.

Speaking to the Baton Rouge Advocate Thursday, LSU A.D. Joe Alleva said that both his program and Jeremy Foley's in Gainesville are "interested in ending" (to use the Advocate's paraphrase) the Tigers' and Gators' annual cross-division rivalry game. LSU and Florida have met each year since 1971 and were designated as permanent cross-divisional rivals in the SEC's 1992 expansion.

Sources told's Brett McMurphy Thursday, however, that Florida is not currently interested in canceling the series. 

The league is considering doing away with permanent cross-divisional rivalries in an effort to ease scheduling concerns, even though that decision would imperil two of the conference's most storied rivalries in Auburn-Georgia and Alabama-Tennessee. Alleva, however, said that despite his school's willingness to abandon its annual cross-division game, there was "momentum" among the A.D.'s to preserve those two particular series.

“The only way around that is to try to maintain the old rivalries and come up with a solution for those who don’t have them,” Alleva said. “There’s a fine line to doing that.”

Both Ole Miss's Pete Boone and Vanderbilt's David Williams told the Birmingham News this week that they oppose maintaining permanent cross-divisional games, with Williams labeling as unfair a potential compromise that would see only some teams (namely, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee) keep such games.

The leeway of a nine-game league schedule would ease many of those concerns dramatically (while raising others), but Alleva echoed the current prevailing sentiment of SEC A.D.'s and officials in saying he and his fellow A.D.'s prefer sticking with an eight-game schedule--even at the apparent cost of a LSU-Florida series highly valued by many fans on both sides.

Which is why the further A.D. meetings alluded to by SEC spokesman Charles Bloom at the conclusion of this set will no doubt be entirely necessary to iron out the league's scheduling dilemma. The conference continues to face a fundamental scheduling paradox: it wants a six-game divisional round-robin, a permanent cross-division game, and two rotated cross-divisional games (to avoid going a full decade without seeing some opposite-division opponents) ... and still stay at eight games.

Somewhere, push is going to have to come to shove, and it's not a shock a group of 14 men with as many differing agendas as the SEC's A.D.'s would seem to have haven't found where that shove is going to come just yet.

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Since: Jan 15, 2012
Posted on: March 1, 2012 11:36 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

man up and play 9 conference games like everybody else in the country does.....or move Auburn and Bama to the east and Vandy and Mizzou to the west to save your precious rivalries.  It's not that hard to solve this problem.

Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: March 1, 2012 11:10 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Teres, the SEC honks will bash you but you hit the nail on the head. Is it me or is every team seems to be 4 - 0 going into league. Every year one of the SEC teams play a pre season ranked team and if the SEC team wins the game we hear about it all season long like Oregon/LSU, yet we didn't hear much about the Georgia/Boise State game. Well Georgia Southern and The Citadel need teams to fill their schedules.

Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2012 11:00 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

They need to work on renaming the conference as well. Adding a team from the Southwest and another from the Midwest doesn't logically add up to a Southeastern Conference.
Actually if geography or history had any bearing on the name, they weren't the SEC since Tennessee, Vandy, and Kentucky were in it as neither state is historically the southeast.  Geographically, Tennessee is considered a southeastern state, but Kentucky still is NOT.  Just so you know, but in reality who cares Boise is going to play in the Big East, the Big 12 has 10 teams, and the Big 10 has 12 teams, so it's not like the names have to apply in a literal sense.


Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 1, 2012 10:58 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Regardless of how much Vandy & Ole Miss cries, I don't see Alabama & Tennessee giving up the Third Saturday in October & I don't see the SEC stopping the South's oldest rivalry in Auburn & Georgia.

Other teams might have their agendas, but those are 2 games that will be played no matter how much expansion comes down the pipe due to the ongoing break up of the Big 12/8 or whatever they are called this year (the hippies in Austin just need to go independent & college football will go back to normal again). 

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2012 9:56 pm

Brilliant move

The SEC is doing what it needs to: bringing in more tomato cans and making the conference schedule easier.  As long as human polls are more important that any data going into a computer, and a two or four team "championship" is still a beauty contest, the SEC can tighten their stranglehold on the BS Sham-pionship game by making their conference easier to win, but simultanously being percieved as "tougher."

More tomato cans, less rivalry games: that's the ticket for the SEC.  Sooner or later, though, whatever the BS Sham-pionship turns into will have to allow conference champions only.  That will keep an undeserving team like Bammer from slipping through the cracks and winning a boring rematch.  I know Bammer fans were really into this game, but the rest of the country voted with their remotes, and the verdict was resounding: nobody gave a bleep about the SEC West Championship game.   

Anyway, this move will make it just a little bit easier for whoever emerges from the SEC to win the beauty contest and have a shot at the Sham-pionship. 

Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2012 9:37 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Looks like Alabama will have to flex some muscle to save the 2 of the biggest games in the SEC. Of course Uga, UT and AU will help but it will take Alabama telling Mike Slive what to do.....
War Eagle 

Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: March 1, 2012 9:19 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

You're dellusional if you believe its the cream puff games that are going to be removed.  Its the LSU/Oregon, Bama/Penn State type games that won't be scheduled.  There's been disscussion of the B10 and Pac12 having a game between all the schools starting in 16 or 17 if/when that happens Notre Lame is going to be in a world of hurt when 5 teams tell them they aren't going to play them anymore, because they'd rather have a gimmie win than a decent game.

Since: Feb 6, 2012
Posted on: March 1, 2012 9:14 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

They need to work on renaming the conference as well. Adding a team from the Southwest and another from the Midwest doesn't logically add up to a Southeastern Conference. It's sort of a hodge podge conference now, though still the best in the land overall. Just a little weaker with the new Kentucky and Vanderbilts being added.

Since: Aug 9, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2012 8:53 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

Why don't they just pony-up like the rest of the big boys and play a 9-game conference schedule?  Surely you would think that the self-proclaimed, media-induced best conference in College Football could surely handle playing the same number of conference games as the rest of the big boys.  Then again......

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: March 1, 2012 8:40 pm

LSU AD says Tigers, Gators may end series

This is all fancy talk for wanting one more OOC cupcake team. I thought the name of the game was money? Then give up the creampuff OOC team and play Florida annually, that game should rake in lots of MONEY!!!!!!  The Big Ten is in the same boat, They will all have to give up one creampuff and the conference will go too 9 conference games, Sorry Les, it's going to happen.

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