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S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Posted on: March 4, 2012 7:23 pm
Edited on: March 5, 2012 11:32 am
 

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

The official line from the SEC is that nothing happened in last week's conference scheduling meetings, and that the league is still considering all available options as it tries to solve its 14-teams-in-an-eight-game-slate schedule dilemma.

But South Carolina president Harris Pastides wandered well away from that line Saturday, telling The State newspaper and other outlets that the league had agreed to continue with permanent cross-division rivalry games--and that he will cast his vote for his Gamecocks to break off their 19-year arrangement with Arkansas.

According to Pastides, the rest of the SEC's athletic directors and presidents were committed to finalizing the new cross-divisional games when he elected to abstain, saying it was too soon for him to commit to South Carolina adopting a new annual series with Texas A&M. The Gamecocks' former West division partners, the Razorbacks, would pick up more geographically-friendly Missouri.

“I said, ‘Hold on a second. That’s a big decision, and I’d like to hear what the fans think about that,’" Pastides said. "They were kind of motivated to get it done and move on, and I said, ‘I think it’s premature. I need to go back to Columbia and see what people think about that.’ ”

According to State reporter Andy Shain, Mike Slive's response to Pastides's pronouncement was "Well good for him."

"Nothing is set yet," Slive emphasized.

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity echoed Pastides' comments in a discussion with the Chattanooga Times-Free Press. McGarity had previously said his Bulldogs' rivalry with Auburn -- as its nickname goes, the "Deep South's Oldest" -- could be in danger, but sounded much more positive Sunday.  

"The tone of the conversations that everyone had sort of gave the impression that everyone had a sense, at least the majority had a sense, of liking the rivalry game with an opponent from the opposite division," McGarity said. "The tone led us to believe that this has a good opportunity of moving forward." 

Pastides' method for discovering what "people think about that" in Columbia was to ask the State to poll readers on their website about the possibility of replacing the Razorbacks with the Aggies. Some 76 percent of respondents voted in favor of starting the new series with A&M.

That landslide was likely made possible by the Hogs' rampant recent success against the Gamecocks, Arkansas having won three in a row and five of the last six in the series. The Gamecocks' much tougher draw out of the SEC West (Arkansas, Auburn, and Mississippi State to Georgia's Auburn, Mississippi State and Ole Miss) was blamed by many -- and not without reason -- for the Bulldogs winning the 2011 East's trip to Atlanta despite the Gamecocks' win over the Dawgs in Athens.

“We have great respect for Arkansas, but I think it’s fair to say our fans never developed the same kind of passionate rivalry about playing Arkansas that maybe some other university did playing their Western Division rivalry,” Pastides said, confirming that he would vote in accordance with the fans' wishes.

“I respect the fans," he said. "Fans are not often consulted on important decisions and ultimately administrators come and go and coaches come and go and athletic directors come and go and fans stay.”

According to Pastides, the final vote of the presidents rubber-stamping the new cross-divisional arrangements will come next week, following the SEC men's basketball tournament.

The proposal isn't in the clear just yet; Pastides himself admits "it's not a done deal," and he happens to be the same president who claimed the SEC had agreed to a nine-game schedule for 2012 last November. A permanent cross-division rival paired with an eight-game schedule would also result in teams playing other cross-divisional opponents only twice in 12 years.

So the "Deep South's Oldest Rivalry" and the "Third Saturday in October" aren't out of the woods yet. But they do, at least, seem safer than they were before last week's meetings--where the SEC may have made far more ground on the scheduling issue than they've let on.

Shain HT: Get the Picture. 

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Comments

Since: Dec 21, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2012 12:15 pm
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Ohio State did beat Arkansas last year......unfortunately....

 

Perhaps you should worry about other things until Ohio St gets credit for a win against an SEC team. Hell, perhaps you should worry about it when the Big 10 acctually shows up against the SEC in bowl games period.


 




Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 11:05 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Tell me -puttie cat- from LSU; what does having a winning record over the Big Ten or the Pac-12 have to do with playing a nine game conference schedule?  The SECond best conference was the first to implement the 12 team format back in 1992 and now this season their first with a 14 team format, but will still keep the 10 team scheduling format!! DUH
Perhaps you should worry about other things until Ohio St gets credit for a win against an SEC team. Hell, perhaps you should worry about it when the Big 10 acctually shows up against the SEC in bowl games period.



Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 11:05 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Pastides seems to be in love with talking to the press I find it interesting that all during the process of adding members you did not see one quote from another SEC president execpt for him and the majority of the time it was incorrect information he was providing.  Evidently the SEC has a problem child on their hands that loves to get attention my advice would be for Pastides to follow the other presidents' lead and keep things in the bd room.

Remember this is the guy that wasn't going to attend one meeting because he was too busy then found out all the other presidents were going to be there so decided he had to go.  How do I know this?  He was quoted in the paper saying almost exactly that!  South Carolinia fans need to can this clown and get a real leader for their university.




Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 11:02 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

I
have my reason why!! With all the bowl match-ups the SEC have and with the NCAA now saying you need at least seven wins (no 6-6 teams) to become bowl eligible, they need teams like, Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, the two Mississippi schools, and South Carolina to be able to schedule their normally Div.1AA pussies and Sun Belt teams to become eligible or the SEC will lose a lot of money. Bottom line, that's what it all about!!!!
Funny you should mention that. Then Ohio St goes on to schedule Akron, Toledo and 3-10 Colorado. And next year Miami ....of Ohio, Central Florida and UAB. And I'm just mentioning it for the sake of the argument ... I could care less, every team and every conference does it ...you almost have to.



Since: Feb 29, 2012
Posted on: March 5, 2012 10:43 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

Well if the SEC is 2nd best conference (though we all know that's not true)....guess who's still behind the SEC, you're BIG 10.



Since: May 5, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 10:37 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go




Since: Dec 27, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 8:41 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

At least in south carolina they respect Arkansas for being a competitive program and realize we have won more than a few games in our history, while the rest of the country hates us and wishes death upon our student-athletes & fans.

Why the rest of the nation blames the Hogs and their supporters for:
migraine headaches, japanese whaling fleets, global warming, high gas prices, and _________, is simply ludacris.


The University of Arkansas and it's awesome base of devout fans are NOT the reason and NOT to blame for any apocalypse against Earth or humanity.


      
;     &nbs
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Since: Dec 29, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 7:55 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go


Tell me -puttie cat- from LSU; what does having a winning record over the Big Ten or the Pac-12 have to do with playing a nine game conference schedule?  The SECond best conference was the first to implement the 12 team format back in 1992 and now this season their first with a 14 team format, but will still keep the 10 team scheduling format!! DUH

I have my reason why!! With all the bowl match-ups the SEC have and with the NCAA now saying you need at least seven wins (no 6-6 teams) to become bowl eligible, they need teams like, Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, the two Mississippi schools, and South Carolina to be able to schedule their normally Div.1AA pussies and Sun Belt teams to become eligible or the SEC will lose a lot of money. Bottom line, that's what it all about!!!!




Since: Mar 6, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 7:07 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

The SEC's not playing 9 conference games because they don't want to. Plain and simple. And they certainly don't have to explain themselves to the Pac-12 or the Big Ten.....conferences that they've dominated over recent seasons (10-6 over the Pac-12 since 2004 and 9-5 over the Big Ten since 2007).



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 3:35 am
 

S. Carolina president: cross-division games a go

The SEC knew it was going to have to confront this sort of problem when it expanded,  Texas A&M and Missouri have already had to abandon some of their long-standing rivalries by moving to the SEC, si it's only expected that SEC teams would have to make accomodations for the new teams.  If going to a nine-game conference season would help, then by all means, just do it.


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