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Do people watch the game of football?

Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:41 pm
Edited on: July 14, 2011 3:01 pm
 
The endless frustration continues even after posting stats for the geeks. It is unbelievable to me that even with stats they refuse to give Ben any credit. I posted stats to support my argument in my post called "Who had the better Super Bowl run?" The critics didn't show, but they did vote clearly. 40 something-60 something pct between Ben's first Super Bowl run and Peyton's. I can't believe the idiots despite the great stats Ben put up compared to Peyton's still voted for Peyton. Even Irregardless makes idiotic comments saying Dilfer didn't have a defense or running game. Are you kidding me? How far are you gonna go with this? I know your hatred for Ben blinds you, but come on now.

Ben has a great defense and a great running game which is what I hear. He is discredited time and time again which I can't understand. How the hell can you tell me Dilfer didn't have a great defense? How can you tell me Brady didn't? Brady threw 1 TD in his first Super Bowl run. Not once did his team win by 7 points!!! Peyton won 2 games on his first Super Bowl run with defense giving up less than 10 points. He finally led the Colts to beat the Pats, but had a touchdown in a 30 point plus game. Do you people watch the games? How does Rodgers not get discredited for having a great defense? During his Super Bowl run last season he only won one game by more than a TD.3 of those games came down to the final minutes where the defense bailed him out. Yes....I said bailed him out! Something you critics claim Steelers defense does with Ben apparently. He gets no credit for either Super Bowl wins he had. He played great in his first Super Bowl run except in the Super Bowl, but he did have a TD in the game. 43 he led the team to a game winning drive after the defense gave up 16 points in the 4th quarter? Before you come here and say James Harrison interception...I would like copy and paste some things: 

It was over when....

Saints CB Tracy Porter stepped in front of Reggie Wayne, intercepted Peyton Manning's pass and returned it 74 yards for a touchdown to give New Orleans a 31-17 lead with 3:12 remaining in the game. The Colts were unable to rally in the final minutes, giving the Saints their first Super Bowl championship.

B.J. Raji returned an interception for a score and Sam Shields picked off two passes to lead the Green Bay Packers to a 21-14 victory over the Chicago Bears in Sunday's NFC Championship Game.

Rodgers, who completed 18 of 27 passes for 180 yards, had to watch from the sideline as Vick nearly led the Eagles back. But Tramon Williams intercepted Vick's pass for Riley Cooper in the end zone with 33 seconds left to seal the win.

Key Stat

The Vikings dominated in every major statistical category, but the Saints kept the game close by forcing six fumbles and two interceptions.
Is that enough evidence for you to discredit both Rodgers and Brees? I mean Ben gets discredited for having a great defense. If he deserves no credit for either Super Bowl why should they? I mean the defense bailed them out in both games right? Defense had to stop the opposing offense late to get the victory. You can throw all the stats you want in my face all day long. I mean you are a blind homer/hater/critic/or just a flat out idiot not to discredit them for it. You discredit Ben because the great play of his defense that apparently led him to them Super Bowl wins. If that is the case you got to do the same with these two quarterbacks. It is either blind hatred for the man or you are all idiots who say otherwise.

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Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: July 20, 2011 2:29 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

The same guy that thinks Riley is an idiot also thinks nobody understands football but him.
I didn't state that at all. The statement was made that they must not watch the games if you are gonna critic Ben for SB 43 victory cuz of Harrison interception. I gave proof Brees, Rodgers, Peyton all had the same help and didn't get critic for it.



Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: July 18, 2011 8:56 am
 

Do people watch the game of football?

The same guy that thinks Riley is an idiot also thinks nobody understands football but him.  Idiots generally think it is everyone else and not them.



Since: Feb 22, 2009
Posted on: July 15, 2011 4:17 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

Geez ATKOOL you need to fricken calm down...
Fact: Big Ben is a heck of a quarterback.
Fact: Big Ben has benefitted from a great defense.
Fact: Big Ben was AWFUL in Super Bowl XL.
Fact: Big Ben has played very well at times in the playoffs.
Fact: Big Ben's stats are, in contrast to ATKOOL's belief, not as good overall as at least 5 other QBs in the league.
Fact: ATKOOL has previously posted that Big Ben is just as good as Manning and Brady.
Fact: ATKOOL has previously posted that Big Ben is a top 5 QB right now.
Fact: ATKOOL was wrong on both counts (albeit by the slimmest of margins on the second one).
Fact: Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Rivers are all better at playing QB than Big Ben.
Fact: Nothing any of us says will convince ATKOOL that God Almighty isn't playing QB for the Steelers.
Fact: I'm done with this crap.



Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: July 15, 2011 4:08 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

Irregardless,

Instead of addressing the dumb statements you made such as Rodgers, Brady, Dilfer, Bradshaw, ect had no running game or defense you just speak nonsense.



Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: July 15, 2011 4:06 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

Ben Roethlisberger has never earned the confidence of his fellow players or coaches that he can read defenses
Really? That is why the man gets to run his own plays in the 2 minute offense in which he is very successful at.

 The Steeler passing offense is made incredibly simple to mask that Ben more often than not has no idea what defense opposes him
LOL! Keep talking nonsense.

He struggles unless there is a wide open first read, holds the ball to long and makes his teammates appear worse due to his inability.
I watch every Steeler football game year after year. That is complete bs. Offensive line is terrible which is why they try to upgrade the line year after year. Do you not realize that? Ben has like 2-4 seconds before he has to run for his life. Brady has 10 seconds vs the Steelers to hit his wideouts.

Yes, his escapability keeps plays alive, and if everything breaks down he can deliver the ball, but to envision an offense is doing this by design is absurd
Of course it isn't designed for Ben to run for his life like that. If he had more time in the fn pocket maybe he could look for wideouts. After his wideout reaches 5 yards he is already scrambling due to bad pass blocking. Steelers offensive line is much better run blocking than at pass blocking which of course is a given.

Trent Dilfer could at least progress through his reads to complete a timely throw
How many seconds did he have to throw the ball in the pocket compared to Ben?

 But as long as you are trying to make the case that Ben Roethlisberger is good at what is asked of QBs, you will be fighting against reality (if you actually watch games) and that always leads to frustration
Are you seriously on drugs bro? My frustration is over you claiming Dilfer, Brees, Rodgers,ect had no defense or running game, but Ben has that. Are you retarded or something? Why didn't Dilfer get resigned? Why did Ben get an 8 year deal to be one of the highest paid at the time? I don't know how many Steeler games you watch a year, but you can't watch much. I watch every single one of them. I put facts and stats right in front of your face. You completely ignore it. If Ben deserves discredited for his Super Bowl runs due to his defense. The same could be said for Brees, Rodgers, ect.

People do not say the truth about Ben Roethlisberger's ability because they do not like him
I suppose you are talking about yourself.

People say the truth about Ben because they understand football, and have seen him play.
Did you take your medication today? You don't watch Steeler games. I do watch them all.

. The problem is that none of the things you are trying to measure him by are valid
More nonsense? I posted stats, facts, and so on. What more do you want? Do you have any common sense?

QBs aren't the sole reason games are won
Where in the blue hell did I state that in any of my posts? I give the whole team credit for victories. Haters like you discredit Ben for victories which I can't understand why? He was the most important player on that Steelers football team for the reason they got to Super Bowl XL. You can't deny that. Look at his performance in those 3 games before the Super Bowl and the game saving tackle in the Indy game. Steelers wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without him. As he wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without the rest of his teammates. I never said he was the sole reason for the Steelers victories.

not all stats are team stats, rings are won by teams and do not magically transform the average into the elite
Why isn't he elite? Because he could care less about numbers and care more about winning ball games. Maybe if Rivers did the same maybe he would win something. His stats were a helluva lot better than Mannings in the SB run in yet you say he had the better SB run? I don't get it? Manning threw an interception in every single game he played in. Ben didn't....Manning's D gave up less than 10 points in 2 of those games Colts won which proves he must have a good defense as well.Steelers D gave up 10 points or more in every single game in that 2006 Super Bowl run. All on the road!! Brady threw 1 TD total in his first SB run. Not one game the Pats won by 7 points or more.

 I suggest this past Super Bowl. You will clearly see that Ben Roethlisberger had no idea what he was facing
So it was Ben's fault Steelers lost in the SB? I don't get this at all cuz I heard from people that Rodgers torched Steelers D. If that is the case than it was more so the D's fault. It isn't Rivers fault though when his team loses. We can come up with excuses all day. Ben's 2nd interception was Wallace's fault.

that sad reality that the Dom Capers defense he faced was the closest thing to what he sees in practice every day of his pro career that can ever be
That defense must have did something right or they wouldn't have the 2nd best D in the game according to points per game or a top 5 in yardage per game.






Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: July 15, 2011 3:04 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

LOL! According to some Packer fans Rodgers "torched" Steelers defense. If that is so it must be his fault.



Since: Nov 27, 2007
Posted on: July 15, 2011 9:11 am
 

Do people watch the game of football?

 sad reality that the Dom Capers defense he faced was the closest thing to what he sees in practice every day of his pro career that can ever be

I'm sorry this proves that you know very little about the NFL.  If you named the best D's in the last 5 years I bet everything on the fact that Baltimore Ravens will be named by everyone.  Last I check Ben Roethlisberger plays them twice a year and twice played them 3 times in one year.  The fact that you can make a statement that is so so far off point has further discredited you.

Watch the game and not CBS fantasy football.  You would see the difference in a fantasy QB and a NFL QB.  Yes Ben Roethlisberger is a NFL QB.  He takes the hits gives hit leads his team and can be counted on whenever the game is on the line.  I can go on and show stats that prove he is better then you say, but you will come back and say that the numbers don't mean anything and your numbers are better. 

The point that he has a complete team around him does make him bad.  Joe Montana had all the key positions around him.  Now Montana was better then Ben, but was he really better then Dan Marino.  If Marino had a good D and running game while he played maybe he would have some rings.  It is hard to win the Super Bowl if you are missing pieces.  Dan Marino was one of the greatest QB of all time and never won because Maimi never put a team around him.  Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl because of those pieces were there. 

Watch some Steeler games this season (on TV not a fantasy site) and you will be able to see what Big Ben does.  He can extend plays with his feet and toughness, giving WRs like Wallace the chance to be on top of the boards in yards/catch.  He can run a 2 minute drill better then the best.  The man knows his football.



Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: July 15, 2011 5:12 am
 

Do people watch the game of football?

The difference ATKOOL, if you ever begin to watch the game of football, is that unlike other QBs, Ben Roethlisberger has never earned the confidence of his fellow players or coaches that he can read defenses. The Steeler passing offense is made incredibly simple to mask that Ben more often than not has no idea what defense opposes him. He struggles unless there is a wide open first read, holds the ball to long and makes his teammates appear worse due to his inability. Yes, his escapability keeps plays alive, and if everything breaks down he can deliver the ball, but to envision an offense is doing this by design is absurd. Trent Dilfer could at least progress through his reads to complete a timely throw. No one questions Ben is an athlete, it's a given. But as long as you are trying to make the case that Ben Roethlisberger is good at what is asked of QBs, you will be fighting against reality (if you actually watch games) and that always leads to frustration. People do not say the truth about Ben Roethlisberger's ability because they do not like him, that is a childish last resort when shown to be wrong. People say the truth about Ben because they understand football, and have seen him play. The problem is that none of the things you are trying to measure him by are valid. QBs aren't the sole reason games are won, not all stats are team stats, rings are won by teams and do not magically transform the average into the elite, and being a fan does not make fantasy into reailty. The problem is your lack of understanding, and Ben's lack of ability. Abandon your crusade to defend the impossible and watch a game with open eyes, I suggest this past Super Bowl. You will clearly see that Ben Roethlisberger had no idea what he was facing, and that sad reality that the Dom Capers defense he faced was the closest thing to what he sees in practice every day of his pro career that can ever be. And he didn't have a clue what was happening. Continue to be frustrated or learn the game and face reality. Your choice.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:17 pm
 

Do people watch the game of football?

Maybe James Harrison should enlighten u on the man LMAO


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