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Duke and the 11 Dwarves

Posted on: January 8, 2011 1:33 pm
by Jerry Palm

That's what the ACC looks like this year.  The gap between the Blue Devils and the other teams is as pronounced as I've ever seen in any major conference, and this is one of the worst year's ever for the ACC.

How bad is it?  Even the Mountain West ranks ahead of the ACC.  In the previous 18 years, the ACC has not been a top three league only once (2000 -- 7th).

The ACC is the sixth-rated league right now, two spots behind the Mountain West.  Even though the Mountain West is having a great year, that has got to have the blue bloods in ACC country hot under the collar.  And while teams get bids, not conferences, that fact, combined with the pile of mediocrity behind Duke, leads me to believe the ACC may not be very well represented in the even-bigger NCAA tournament this March.  Even five bids total may be optimistic.

North Carolina would appear to be in the best shape for a bid.  The Tar Heels have a win over Kentucky and no bad losses so far.

Miami is also in the top 30 of the RPI, but has a 16-point loss at Rutgers and has yet to be at sure tournament team.

Boston College is the only other league team currently in the top 50 of the RPI, but has two home losses to Ivy League teams. The Texas A&M win is nice though.

Beyond that, only outstanding league play has a chance to salvage a bid for anyone else.  Not merely good.  Outstanding.


Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2011 10:06 am

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

The ACC will get 6 teams into the NCAA's.Deserved or not,it will not be,that's the way things roll.

Since: Feb 3, 2010
Posted on: January 9, 2011 3:30 am

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

You live by the three and you die by the three.  But right now Duke is living.,  I am impressed with Duke this yr.  I think Duke and KU are probably the teams to beat this yr.  But that means absolutley nothing at this point.  Just means everyone will try harder to beat us.

Since: Dec 28, 2010
Posted on: January 8, 2011 10:58 pm

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

Duke, Duke, Duke, that's all I hear but I question something.  Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas gave last season's team something that this year's team will have to match, and that's second chance shots.  Right now Duke is surviving with having shooters and they are an incredible shooting team, but what if they have an off shooting night, are the Plumlees and Ryan Kelly up to the task of doing the dirty of claiming or fighting for offensive rebounds leading to those second chance points???  Only time will tell so I won't just crown them this years NCAA Champs, but they will destroy a down ACC .....

Since: Dec 6, 2008
Posted on: January 8, 2011 10:03 pm

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

have to agree.  i'm a duke grad, but i worry that the level of competition will hurt us come ncaa time.  agree that unc will be in.  they have the talent and coaching, will get better.  after that, i think the conference gets only two more bids, with florida st, va tech, and nc state being the contenders.  don't think maryland, bc, or miami have the horses to get it done this year.  clemson, virginia, wake, ga tech all look pretty bad.

Since: Apr 8, 2007
Posted on: January 8, 2011 5:58 pm

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

So I wonder why the RPI has the ACC down at 6 where some of the other computers have them solidly entrenched in 4th. Here's KenPom's rating and Sagarin's


Since: Jan 8, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2011 5:18 pm

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

Since: Dec 27, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2011 2:49 pm

Duke and the 11 Dwarves

Eh, it was a similar story in 2008-2009. No one was even close to North Carolina. The ACC hasn't been good across the board since 2004-2005, when North Carolina, Duke, and Wake Forest were each legit Top 5/10 teams. And the likes of Clemson and FSU weren't bad, either. Since then it has been either North Carolina or Duke. With that said, I don't think Duke will waltz through the ACC this season. Carolina is improving and is capable of beating them. Teams like NC State and Virginia Tech have the potential of putting together performances to beat the Devils, as well. As to how many teams will perform well enough over the course of the ACC season to get the NCAAs, I think Duke and North Carolina - right now - are the only two teams one could seriously consider. Then again, it's early Jan - a lot of ball to be played.

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