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Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Posted on: February 1, 2011 2:27 pm
Edited on: February 1, 2011 4:46 pm
by Jerry Palm

As I suggested the other day, there has been some shuffling throughout the bracket this week.  After all, 18 ranked teams lost at least once last week.

It starts at the top, where Duke and San Diego State have been replaced as No. 1 seeds by Pittsburgh and Texas .

Kansas , the No. 2 team in the polls this week, is still a No. 2 seed in the bracket mostly because the Jayhawks have a lot of wins, but few of any significant quality.  OK -- none of any significant quality.

They have played one team in this bracket seeded 7 or higher (the top 28 teams in the S-Curve) and lost it.  At home.  To one of the No. 1 seeds, Texas.  Until Kansas starts adding some high quality wins to their resume, it's hard to regard them as a top seed.  Although, that could happen eventually even without that.  If some of the teams ahead of them pick up any more losses, it may be hard to hold Kansas back, even without the high quality wins.

They Jayhawks are 11-0 vs teams ranked 26-100 in the RPI.  Arizona is the only top 25 win.  That's why they are a two-seed and not any lower.  Those are quite respectable numbers.  They just aren't No. 1 seed material yet.

It might be a little while before Kansas can grab some higher quality wins, provided Arizona doesn't keep improving its stock.  The Jayhawks don't play Missouri until next week and don't see Texas A&M until March.  Still, if they can avoid losing, I'm sure it won't be long before they are on the top line.

Syracuse and Michigan State continue to free fall.  The Orange losing streak has reached four straight, including a blowout loss at home to Seton Hall in the last week.  They fell a couple of lines in this week's bracket.

The Spartans have fallen even farther.  Last week, they were, wearing their white unis in a 7-10 game, but this week, they switch to green.  Coach Tom Izzo kicked G Korie Lucious off the team, and the team celebrated by losing at home to Michigan and nearly doing so to Indiana .  Michigan State has to reprove itself to the committee with its new lineup.  That was not a great start.

St. John's picked up a huge win over Duke on Sunday, but the Johnnies are far from out of the woods.  Right now, the Red Storm (also what we're calling the weather in Chicago today) is 12-8, but a look at the rest of the regular season schedule sees very few sure wins.  OK, no wins are sure, but they might only be favored three more times.  Fifteen wins won't get them in the field.  It's much more likely that they will need at least 18.

I hope you like the new format of the bracket page .  Feel free to leave comments on that page about the format (and the bracket too).  You will note that some teams are marked as being on the bubble.  In my own mind, the bubble is a lot larger than the teams I have marked, but I am going to just mark those in the most danger.  Some of those teams I marked are in the bracket as conference leaders at the moment.  I have marked them as bubble teams in the event they need at-large bids.  If a team is a double-digit seed and a conference leader, but I do not have them marked as on the bubble, then I don't think they are at-large candidates.  At least not yet.

More about the Big East, Big Ten and Conference USA below.


Since: Nov 20, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2011 10:34 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Palm, you have been using your palm to read into the mysteries of Bracketology. You need to go back to what you do best... and that is using your right palm, with a little cocoa butter and a fresh towellete. Or is that the left palm?

Since: Nov 20, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2011 10:27 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Well sd. This writer is so Big East, he can taste 'em.....what in the world is he thinking. Win/loss?....RPI?....right before KU lost against Texas, they were all saying that they were the best team in America, Top to Bottom! If the Celtics or the Lakers lose at home( which they do!) does that make them not a top team any more? Your an idiot Mr. Palm!

Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: February 7, 2011 12:08 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

I think you have to include Kansas in the No. 1 seed discussion, Ohio State at least until they get beat (which they won't with their schedule), Pitt, and if you just watch for the team playing the best basketball in the country right without looking at the records is no question Texas.   But the problem is the is a lot of time between now selection Sunday so everything can change.

Since: Mar 2, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2011 4:35 pm

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Palm - Your a friggin idiot if you don't think Kansas deserves a #1 seed.
I could go into a long winded e-mail about why they desereve a #1 but don't need to.
Their record 22-1 speaks for itself.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2011 3:36 pm

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Texas and KU both deserves 1 seeds and will most likely get them come March, sure Texas has played KU, Pitt, and UCONN in 3 close games going 1-2 with the other loss coming way early on the road against a mediocre USC team but obviouosly hasn't effected them much moving forward. The Big XII did put 7 of 12 in the dance last year with 5 advancing and 4 moving onto the second weekend and sweet 16 with KSU and Baylor losing close games in the elite 8 against the eventual 2 final teams. Blake Grifin, Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley.... winning college POY awards and all going 1st or 2nd in the draft with Durant and Griffin the best two players from those 3 drafts isn't doing anything for Big XII hoops for ya? The only reason you might think the Big XII is top heavy is because Baylor and Ok St don't have the number next to their names because the midwest doesn't generate a lot of votes in the bottom half of the polls, those spots are reserved for the Big East 7th place .500 team so they can feel good about losing 11 games. The Big East gets like 7-8 teams with 5 seeds or higher in the dance with all the advantage there to move on but haven't put multiple teams in the final four since the expansion and hype has really set in over the last 5 years. 2009 3 one seeds that all fell short of the final four and UNC and MSU played for the NC. So why we're all very impressed with your 16 teams and your media following, the 8,9 or maybe even 10 teams that get invited and higly seeded have come far from dominating other conferences and lower seeds come March.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2011 3:10 pm

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

As far as the quality wins, Zona is a top 20 team come tomorrow and should win the pac 10, that win came in Vegas much closer to Zona then Lawernce. Memphis was undefeated and top 15 when KU handled them in the Garden. UCLA, USC, Michigan, and Cal didn't hold up there end of the bargain when those games were scheduled a couple years back. KSU and Baylor both made elite 8 runs last year and returned several players landing in the top 10 early in the season, they both got blown out against the hawks. At Baylor is quality, at Colorado and Nebraska are tough wins for every other team that has played there this year including some ranked teams. So does KU get to count those as quality wins, probably not since they are expected to win every game they play but SDSU would be bragging about all those wins if they had them.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2011 3:02 pm

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

They never do seed this thing early in February, but if they did I would think 21-1, # 2 in the polls and #1 in the RPI would always 100% of the time be seeded in the top 4 teams at the tourney. Find me just one example even close to where a high profile team had that winning percentage and those ranking in all the polls 2,2,and 1 in the 3 polls with only one loss usually gets the 1 seed. Unless of course he's predicting KU loses at least 2 or 3 more before the selection then i would say this makes zero sense as a current seeding chart and history proves that KU would get a 1 seed if the season ended today. 22 straight invites including 2 titles and several final four runs over this time span would also bode well for the Jayhawks landing the #1 seed over SDSU's lower rankings and same W-L record, but hey thats just what i've got out of the last 20 selection Sundays where the committee has seeded this way. Like i said earlier, I would love for the writer or anyone to find an example of a powerhouse program being 1 RPI and 2 AP to go along with the second best winning percentage and got the 2 seed. Please show me something even close and then i'll say there's some logic behind this article/blog........

Since: Jan 13, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2011 11:10 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

I agree!  Texas has one quality win and thats against KAnsas, Texas doesnt deserve a #1 seed...losses to both Pitt and Uconn which you have as #1 seeds.  If beating a top team equals #1 seed then BYU desrerves a #1 seed or even Notre Dame for beating Pitt.
I dont like the Big12 and think they are top heavy but KU should be #1 based on overall play throughout the year.  

Since: Feb 6, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2011 10:56 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

Whats the logic behind putting a 3 loss Texas as a 1 seed? If Kansas hasn't "PROVEN THEMSELVES WORTHY" then who has Texas really beat???

Since: Feb 6, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2011 10:52 am

Feb. 1 Bracket - Where's Kansas?

How is this guy ignoring the fact that Duke hasn't played anyone either. They haven't played ANYONE that is currently ranked! They have two losses to bad teams but they are a 1 seed to him????

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