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BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

Posted on: November 14, 2011 1:49 am
The more I think about it, the more I think Bedlam will decide one participant in the BCS title game.  Obviously, Oklahoma State controls its own destiny as one of the last two major undefeated teams.  However, if we are in a situation where the Cowboys get beat, especially if Oklahoma is the team to beat them, the Sooners may be the voters only reasonable option if they want to avoid a rematch for LSU.

If that scenario arises, we are looking at three likely opponent choices for LSU:

1. Alabama, which gave the Tigers the better game, but it was a short time ago and the Tide lost to LSU at home.  Alabama won't even be a division champion.

2. Oregon, which was not especially competitive in its season opening loss to LSU, which took place in Dallas.  The Ducks would be Pac-12 champs though.

3. Oklahoma.  The Sooners haven't lost to LSU yet, which would probably appeal to voters, and would also be a confernece champ.  The champion, in fact, of the highest rated league.  Of course, their one loss was a pretty yucky one (yes, that is a scientific term).

I think what little history we have shows voters would go for the Sooners, and the computers would likely back that up.


I recevied some comments about Penn State being so low in the Big Ten bowl food chain in this week's projections.  I think bowls may shy away from the Nittany Lions so that their story doesn't become the bowl's story as well.  There is an old saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity.  I would suggest this is an exception.

The Big Ten has a one-win rule for bowl selections, so Penn State can only drop so far, depending on how other Big Ten teams do.

Is this fair to the players?  No, of course not, but bowl selection has never been about fairness.


Boise State is the highest rated non-AQ team this week at No. 10, but because it very likely won't win the Mountain West, it cannot automatically qualify for an at-large BCS berth.

Houston at No. 11 controls its own destiny for that berth, which goes to the highest-rated, non-AQ conference champion as long as it is in the top 12 of the standings, or in the top 16, but ahead of one of the AQ champions.  With the Big East cannibalizing each other, it's pretty likely top 16 is good enough again this year.

That means, if Houston falls, TCU, which is currently No. 19, could end up with that spot.  Or even Southern Miss at No. 20, if the Golden Eagles were to win out and knock the Cougars from the ranks of the unbeated in the C-USA championship game.

Southern Miss in the BCS.  We are a ways still from that happening, but who had that at the beginning of the year?  Put your hands down, liars.


Since: Apr 6, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:42 am

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

Just imagine if there was a 16-team playoff. Conference champ from each of the 11 conferences get an auto bid, and then the top 5 remaining at-large teams in the BCS standings. All seeds determined by the BCS standings.
Here's what it looks like going into week 12: 

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:55 pm

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

What about Tulsa?  Let's assume they beat Houston (which I hope does not happen) and Southern Miss?  Can they find a way into the top 16?  Their three losses are all against top 10 teams (OK, OK State, and Boise State).

Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 2:51 pm

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

If they win out, Okla will finish #2 in computers, Ok St #3 and Ala #4. With a close human vote, this should be enough to push Okla past Ala.   Remember, the coaches had Okla #1 all the way until they lost.

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 1:33 pm

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

even an OU fan like  knows that OSU is getting much better, every year.  So if Palm is using the history as a predictor for the future, he might just continue to make a fool out of himself.  Palm had the cowboys in the cotton bowl last week, now begrudgingly, in the fiesta.  OSU had terrible series records against Texas and even TT, but look at how things have changed.  I would say 1 thing, OSU has played better on the road than at home over the last 2 seasons. 

Since: Nov 14, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 12:37 pm

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

I don't think he is anti OSU.  He is likely basing his prediction off of the history of the series... A game that OU wins 81% of the time.  Gundy has his best team yet, but the Sooners have owned the Bedlam series. 

Since: Nov 3, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:26 am

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

I thought the purpose of the BCS was to match the two best teams in the country against each other.  If this is the case why does it matter if a team wins its conference or not? 

Since: Oct 19, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:05 am

BCS, bowl thoughts, Nov. 13

Palm, why are you so anti-Okla St?  They continue to win & yet you will not even consider then for the BCS Champ game.  Well, they'll just have to keep winning to prove you & all the naysayers wrong.  FYI:  OSU (not the probie univ from Ohio) could (not set in stone, but everyone keeps talking about other 'what-ifs') win the National Championship Game, have the Heisman winner (Weeden), the Balitnikoff winner (Blackmon), and the Groza winner (Sharp) all in the same year (Sharp isn't eligible for the Ray Guy award because OSU offense doesn't give him enough punting chances to be eligible).  That has never happened in history of NCAA.

Actually, as I'm typing, I think you should keep down-playing OSU....It'll make winning it all that much sweeter!!!!  

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