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Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

Posted on: February 21, 2011 1:39 pm
 


Posted by MATT JONES


The Coaches' Poll is a joke. I know it, you know it and the American people know it. The actual coaches who allegedly participate (you and I both know that in reality it is the Sports Information Director or some assistant to the coach who completes the poll each week) never do as good a job of analyzing the teams as those in the media. Thus you inevitably end up with some odd assortment of teams, usually based upon a pick by number "which team didn't lose this week" system that requires little thought and no analysis.


But even with my usual low expectations for the poll of coaches, this week was still shockingly bad. I will freely admit that picking a No. 1 team in America this week was difficult. With the top four teams all losing last week, figuring out which to place on top of the heap could lead to a varying set of opinions. But one thing is certain. You couldn't really decide which team was the best in America by simply going down the list and finding the highest team that didn't take a loss. No group of minds would be so simplistic as to use that strategy to pick a top team, would they?


Yes they would. For reasons only known to the underlings in the athletic departments who made the list, the coaches picked Duke to be the No. 1 team in America. Ignoring every bit of logic or reason that exists, the coaches went with the one indefensible pick for the top spot.  You can make a reasonable case for the other five contenders:


Ohio State: Two losses, both to teams who are perfect at home on the season. The Buckeyes were in both games and both teams to which they lost will be a top four seed in March. Ohio State is also the most complete all around team in America and probably the best suited to face the variety of attacks they will face in March.


Kansas: The Jayhawks are No. 1 in the RPI (although that is becoming less and less important as our statistical knowledge increases), are 7-2 versus the top 50 overall and one of the two losses is to a fellow Top 5 team. The Kansas State loss was bad, but for a team that has otherwise dominated opponents, they can't be forgotten on the heels of one effort.


Pittsburgh: The forgotten team in the group. Pittsburgh has beaten 7 teams in the Top 25.  No one else is close. The Panthers play in the best conference and have a win over fellow contender Texas. Dropping Pitt to sixth means that you as a voter simply saw they were in 4th last week and thought, "well I must punish them by dropping them two spots," without recognizing that the loss occurred on the home floor of a team with five Top 20 home defeats.


Texas: The team playing the best basketball in America. The Longhorns have the most talent, have only lost once in conference and are crushing teams in every manner possible. Plus, they have the best win of the season, a road victory at Kansas. Yes there are four losses on the resume, but if we are picking the best team, Texas is it.,


San Diego State: I don't like the case for the Aztecs, but one at least exists. They only have one loss, it is to fellow Top 8 team BYU and they have beaten Gonzaga, Wichita State, St. Mary's and UNLV, all of which will be NCAA contenders. If total losses are most important to you, then San Diego State wins. Plus, at least this year, the Mountain West is pretty close to the ACC overall.


The only team I can't understand putting in the top spot is Duke. The Blue Devils were embarrassed at St. John's (contrast that with how Pittsburgh played the Johnnies this week) and have only ONE game (nevermind win) against the Top 25 in college basketball. The ACC is painfully weak and all of Duke's best victories are over likely bubble teams. With the same number of losses as Ohio State and Kansas, a much weaker resume than Pittsburgh and Texas and less overall wins in a similar conference than San Diego State, how can you pick the Blue Devils?


Oh, I know. Because they were the highest team that didn't lose last week. Nice job once again coaches. 
 


Comments

Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:56 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

I see that your ranking here is AMATEUR, which is very appropriate. As a Duke supporter and graduate, I can say with authority that the coaches that do vote in these polls know more about basketball than you, period. There is a FACT for you!

Duke was voted number one for a reason: they are the most deserving team. You can hate the FACTS all you like, but it wont change the reality. Duke is the defending National Champion and as such will get the benefit of the doubt until that changes.

The only thing Matt said that I think was noteworthy is that none of this maters until March. If DUke, or any other team for that matter, is truly the best, they will prove it in the tourney. That is the ONLY Number One ranking that matters.

Duke is a solid team!! They will be there when it counts. If you can't deal with that, go watch NASCAR or some other meaningless sport.




Since: Jul 14, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:53 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

@

how hilarious that a Fake Forest fan critiques another ACC program as "a HS team"

um, have you looked at the product your school is rolling out this year dude?



Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:43 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

How can you talk about the coaches poll being so bad when the AP Poll has Duke #1? I am a UNC fan and can't stand Duke but they are #1 right now, which really means nothing. We will have to wait and see what happens in the tournament. I agree that Big East is the best conference this year but I can see them beating each other up in Big East tourney and that will take a big toll on them when they get into big dance.



Since: Mar 18, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:31 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

Easy to tell you Duke supporters didn't attend classes there!!  Do your research before you put 'facts' in your comments!  And spell words correctly and use proper grammar and puncuations!!  Do you actually know that NOT ALL COACHES vote in the damn poll!!!  Maybe you should look up who actually does!  The list contains mostly mid major coaches from schools who generally are never gonna compete for a national championship.  The biggest 'name' coach who does is Jim Boeheim of Syracuse.  Matt Jones is right, there is no way that any coach who actually pays attention to what is going on this season in college basketball could vote Duke #1!  




Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:28 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

WHO HAS DUKE BEAT

EVERY TEAM THEY HAVE PLAYED BUT 2

DUKE GETS RAZZED FOR LOSING TO  ST JOHN"S IN NEW YORK IN A BLIZZARD
OHIO STATE GETS PRAISED FOR LOSING 2 of 3 and last one by 13 points   FUNNNNNNNNNNY

ACC IS NOT WEAK
BIGEAST IS NOT STRONG
BIG10 IS NOT STRONG
NO MORE THAN ACC      ACC 2 in a row going for 3

YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU READ >>FINE BUT

ALL TEAMS IN DIV1 SHOULD BE EQUAL

NOTRE DAME CANNOT BE # 9 or 10  if TEMPLE IS #23 with a better record
and for sure when temple loses to DUKE wednesday  TEMPLE WILL FALL OUT
but the bigeast teams play each other they just JOCKEY up or down 3 or 4 spots
seems all RIGGED TO ME but HEY WHO AM I JUST A GUY WHO IS NOT BIASED

YOUR argument about if you lose u drop if funny YES IF YOU LOSE YOU DROP
TAKE NFL FOR EXAMPLE  2 teams both 9-0  one loses one wins, DO THEY SAY
WELL THE ONE THAT LOSS IS BETTR THAN THE ONE WHO ONE LET"S LEAVE THE TEAM
WITH THE LOSS AS #1 ...funny  ohio state loses 2 games one week last one by 13

and you DARE TO SAY THEY SHOULD BE #1  or KANSAS losing by 20....FUNNNNNNNNNNY

so remember  ALL TEAMS ARE EQUAL ALL CONFERENCES ARE EQUAL ONLY RECORD MATTERS

SO HERE WE GO

1 SDSU
2. TIE  DUKE OHIO STATE  BYU UTAH STATE
5. PITTSBURG
WONDER WHY ARIZONA WITH 4 losses is not TOP 10 ???????  BIAS
UTAH STATE  ? WOW  THOSE WESTERN TEAMS JUST ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THE EASTERN
TEAMS WHAT A JOKE>>>>>>>>
;>

 

 




Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2011 9:18 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

WHY?
Because they are the BEST team.
YOU blame coaches and their votes.
It's the coaches  (SIXTEEN OF THEM IN THE BIGEAST) WHO VOTE THEIR BIASED WAYS

OK LET"S RUN DOWN YOUR ARGUMENTS

OHIO STATE WHAT A JOKE THEY LOSE BY 13 and you say they are in IT?
Texas   beat UNC AT HOME BY ONE POINT  FUNNY
KANSAS ok I THINK THEY ARE THE #3 TEAM
TEXAS IS A JOKE THEY DO NOT BELONG IN TOP 7

1. DUKE
2. SDSU
3. BYU
4. KANSAS
5. PITTSBURG
6. OHIO ST.
7. ARIZONA
8. Texas

ACC IS WEAK LOL  WHO WON LAST   two  TOURNAMENTS

ohio st plays purdue they dont drop after a 13 point loss yes they do DROP JONES
YOU SAY SO AND SO PLAYS so many ranked teams WHO RANKS THOSE TEAMS JONES
LORD THE BIGEAST IS AN AVERAGE CONFERENCE WITH NO OUTSTANDING TEAMS MAYBE
OTHER THAN PITT (BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR WINS LOL)

THIS IS THE SAME ARGUMENT ALL USED LAST YEAR DUKE IS A JOKE DONT BELONG AS
#1 SEED RIDICULOUS
YOU SIR ARE BORN AND BRED WITH THE IDEA THAT ALL TEAMS ARE NOT EQUAL IN THE DIV1
BASKETBALL PROGRAM>>>>ALL PRO SPORTS ALL SPORTS USE THE RECORD AS THE RANK
NOT SOME BIG10 BIGOT NOR BIGEAST BIGOT  >>YOU TREAT ALL THE SAME AND RANK BY THE
RECORD. YOU TELL ME WHY:   TEMPLE 23-5  is not ranked as high as NOTRE DAME WITH THE SAME #
of losses with less wins????????? DO YOU REALLY KNOW ND BETTER THAN TEMPLE  NO NO NO
YOU SAY THAT DUE TO THE BIG EAST and their MONOPOLY on this game and tournament...gettting
9 or 10 in out of 16 is a joke....and 16 coaches vote so you know bigeast will always have more teams
in top 25 cause they monopolize the game by their #of teams and coaches what a JOKE  remember
last year same things being said about acc and about bigeast big10....ohio state will not make it to the final
four  YOU CAN BANK ON IT........DUKE REPEATS THEN YOU CAN EAT CROW LIKE PARRISH(HOW MUCH DID HE
PAY YOU FOR THIS ARTICLE YOU WROTE) LOL



Since: Apr 6, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2011 8:32 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

One last thing, Mr. Jones was hired by CBS from Kentucky Sports Radio...I'm sure there is no bias whatsoever in play here.  Hey Matt, why didn't Pitino put a man on the inbounds pass from Grant Hill...turnaround jumper by Laettner...good.  Still hurts I bet. 



Since: Apr 6, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2011 8:29 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

Is it Duke's fault that the ACC is down this year?  Is it their fault they beat top 5 KState and MichState, giving the entire country a blueprint on how to beat these teams?  Duke still has the #39 SOS in the nation, not as if they are #100.  Just classic Duke hate...guess what, when Kyrie comes back (and he will), we'll see who is the #1 team heading into the tournament.




Since: Aug 29, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2011 1:52 am
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

And who has Duke beat in the top 25 outside of the state of North Carolina?  If a WCC or CAA team had this schedule, they would be a bubble team at best.



Since: Feb 20, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2011 11:30 pm
 

Duke No. 1 in Coaches' Poll...Why?

I agree with Matt and Aztec506. Between those 5 in the article and Duke, Duke does have the weakest resume, and you could even make the case that BYU should be ranked higher than Duke. But I think Matt is missing the fact that another reason that this happened is probably because it is Duke, so they will get the benefit of the doubt, even if they don't deserve it like in this situation. And like he mentioned, Pitt should be ranked higher than they are now. For how much the media loves the Big East, I am shocked they seem to have forgot about Pitt. If I was a voter (I kinda wish I was because I'd probably do a better job than half of them unfortunately) I'd go:1. OSU2. Pitt (though I wouldn't have a problem if they were 1, OSU was 2)3. SDSU4. Kansas (In my eyes they don't havea notable win)5. Texas (Just too many losses)6. Duke (Though I wouldn't have a problem if BYU was 6)
Then like aztec506 said, SDSU and BYU have better OOC schedules than people give them credit for. SDSU scheduled games at Gonzaga and at Cal (unfortunately both aren't as good as predicted), and games against Witchita State and Saint Mary's. Their first 5 games of the season are away, away, neutral, neutral, away. It's not like they are scheduling cupcake home games like the rest of the top 10. BYU played Utah State at home, and Arizona, UCLA, and Saint Mary's on neutral court. BYU has the 12th hardest OOC schedule in the nation. The only thing I'm going to say is I'm glad this is basketball and not football so at least they have a chance to prove themselves in postseason play.


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