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Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

Posted on: February 24, 2011 9:28 am

Posted by Matt Norlander

What we have here is our viral video of the day.

Why does Tim Floyd have that NHL feel to him? That we only talk about him whenever things don't seem to be going well or there's controversy surrounding him. It's never about the success or good times with Floyd, whose UTEP team started out 17-4 with nary a positive column written about it.

Now the Miners are 20-8 on the heels of last night's 83-76 road loss to Eastern Carolina, an at-large bid surely all but evaporated. The game, as you can see above, is one Floyd was ejected from and had to be restrained/removed by building security. Such a sentence never says good things about the state of your coach or program.

You don't see Jamie Dixon, Rick Barnes, John Calipari, Bo Ryan, Tom Izzo, Sean Miller getting tossed from games and needing uniformed men ushering them into the bowels of arenas.

The reasons for Floyd's temper tantrum are surely myriad, but ECU's 45 attempts from the foul line had to be a primary catalyst. But reasons aren't reason for this behavior. Look at the video again. It's embarrassing.

For all the wrong reasons, Floyd's the closest thing we have today to Bob Knight.

In the first 35 seconds of the video you can see the UTEP players convening, sans Floyd, and trying to regroup themselves amid struggles on the road against .500 team. Floyd's too busy making demeaning chatter with the official, whose mouth you can read; he's clearing saying, "Back off."

After a brief lapse of time, the video cuts to a few moments later, when Floyd can't keep his yap shut, storming down the sideline and berating an official, looking right out of a Looney Tunes episode with the way his mouth is motoring. Then the T comes, and Floyd's instantly in the paint and charging the official.

Apology to come or not, this isn't what UTEP or Conference USA needs. The driving headlines out of the conference this year have been about Memphis players transferring, the overall lack of an uptick in play in the wake of Memphis' drift back to mortality in the conference ... and now this.

The worst thing about Floyd's behavior: it's not surprising. Pay for what you get, UTEP.
Category: NCAAB
Tags: Tim Floyd, UTEP

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2011 2:32 am

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

You got to love Floyd's ripping off the coat and flinging it, similar to the feature performer on stage 1 last night @ my local strip club. It was vintage Timmy the Terrible! What was even better was the assistant doing his strip tease performance, but was only half the spectacle of his mentor. Guys,if you're so unhappy with the jacket, just don a nice tropical shirt that the both of you received in the Maui Invitational last November. Nobody, and I mean nobody would toss an Aloha top off while trying to act upset with the officials. It just wouldn't play well.

Since: Feb 24, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2011 8:56 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

MinerMike,  It seems that ECU has seen some "home cooking" at other arenas this year (but not in Conference USA play), but up until this game I thought the refs were actually more against us than for us when we have played at home.  I think they usually make bad calls for both sides.  I really don't think the refs were calling fouls incorrectly, except the T's were probably not handled correctly. 

You mentioned 4 T's at the 17 min. mark.  I believe it was actually 3 T's... we shot 6 free throws... Abrams missed the first 2, then Sherrod hit 3 of 4. 

I wanted to clarify my earlier note on your defense...  you guys played great sticky defense, but it seemed to hurt when it came to fouling.  It would seem that the coaches and players have to adjust to how the refs are calling them.  It did not seem to me as if UTEP adjusted.

However, remember I do wear purple shades.  Enjoyed chatting with you. 

Since: Feb 24, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2011 7:55 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

Since: Feb 24, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2011 7:39 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

PirateBill: you do a fairly descent job given the view from "your purple colored glasses", but you fail to remark or recall what happened leading up to these events.  3 mins into the second half with ~17mins left in the game, we already had 6 personal fouls called on us.  ECU was 1 and 1 at the 17min mark and your squad had 1 foul!?  This is what led to the erruption and ensuing "Technical Foul Fest".  4 Technical Fouls and two ejections later (still at the 17min mark, no time off the clock) you were already in the double bonus.  Deduct the 4 Technical fouls and the foul disparity sits at about 20 and you state "the fouls were called appropriately"? 

Don't get me wrong, did Coach Floyd deserve to be ejected?  Yes.  Did Assitant Coach Johnson within 30sec?  ABSOLUTELY NOT!  It was the job of the officiating crew to get things back in control and keep things objective.....this was not done!  The refs became the story and that's when you know a problem truly existed.  You can justify this win all you want, but this game was not won or loss in the fashion that it should have been settled.  No matter how you slice it, a disparity of 45 freethow attempts to 17 is suspect at best!

Since: Feb 24, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2011 7:01 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

First of all I am an ECE fan, therefore bias itowards ECU, and I was at the ECU vs. UTEP basketball game. 

There has been much mention about the disparity in the number of foul shots taken between the 2 teams.  Actually, there wasn't much difference in the number of fouls called until the 3 technical fouls were called.  Then afte that the team was at 10 team fouls pretty quickly into the second half, thus all fouls resulted in 2 shots.  It seemed that UTEP did not give us a chance to foul because they shot very quickly.  Culpepper who is a great player shot almost anytime hew was half way open... there wasn't many times the ball was worked inside to someone else.   Our guys while they made a few 3 pointers last night, could not make many, so they worked hard to get the ball inside which caused contact and fouls.  Also, I was very impressed with UTEP's defense they often tried to reach in and fouled.  Then as the game got down to the end UTEP had to foul to stop the clock which once again put on the foul line for 2 shots each time.  Through my "purple lenses" it appeared to me as if the fouls were called appropriately. 

Did the refs over-react to Floyd... probably.  But, he probably over-reacted as well.  When he got the first T, he took his coat off, twirled it, and through it under the chairs at the bench, and his tie was pulled sideways... making him look ballistic.  Him charging the ref on the court did not appear to be the appropriate response.  He did not appear to be interested in coaching his team, but was more concerned about getting at the refs.  It did appear as if he was ready to throw a punch at the ref.

The poor polceman that was called into the situation by one of the refs I thought did a fine job with a weird situation.

Sorry this had to happen, and it probably caused UTEP to lose the game.

Since: Aug 4, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2011 6:20 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

For all the wrong reasons, Floyd's the closest thing we have today to Bob Knight.

No way, his mentee Eustachy is way more out of control.  Remember the Great 8 game v Michigan State when get tosses because of all the BS calls that were going MSU's way?  That was an awesome display of Knightness. 

Since: Feb 14, 2007
Posted on: February 24, 2011 6:00 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

It would have been nice if you would watched the game or at least watched the video before you wrote a blog.  Perhaps Floyd overreacted but all the physical contact was from the officials not Tim Floyd.  First, the official waves his finger in Floyd's face.  Then he touches Floyd on the shoulder.  After Floyd received the second technical, he is pushed/bumped more than once by an official.  I am not sure the police officer needed to escort Floyd out or he just entered the court on his own.  Even the police officer made physical contact with Tim Floyd.  At first, he just touched Floyd, then he grabbed him around his neck.  The officials and the police officer were clearly out of control, but you made no mention of that at all.  Just because Floyd does not leave the court in a timely manner, it does not mean that officials or a police officer has a right to make physical contact with the coach.  Don't be suprised if the officials and the police officer receive some type of punishment.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2011 5:52 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

you know at that point the refs are going to be quicker to call more technicals to get the game back under control.
The problem is, the refs never had control of this game. Floyd and the refs should be embarrassed. 

Since: Jan 28, 2007
Posted on: February 24, 2011 5:26 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

there's nothing wrong with what Tim Floyd did!  more coaches should have a pair!  if the officials are doing a horrible job, it's time to get nuts!

keep on keepin' on Tim Floyd, thanks for having a pair!

Since: Jul 17, 2007
Posted on: February 24, 2011 5:12 pm

Tim Floyd will not go quietly into that night

Matt norlander has probally never coached a basketball team.I didnt see much wrong with this - A coach was pissed and he wanted to let the referee know it -

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