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Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Posted on: June 10, 2011 10:31 am
 
By Matt Norlander

Rick Pitino's capability for a good quote has too often gone overlooked. Thankfully, in the doldrums of June, college basketball's second-worst month of the year (only August is worse), Pitino has delivered some fighting words. Words that will have some lasting impact by the time Kentucky and Louisville play each other around New Year's Eve.

And the words aren't even directed at Kentucky -- they're a shot at the SEC. The Louisville coach sent a verbal barb flying Wednesday in the direction of the conference, a clear response to something John Calipari said last week.

After the SEC ditched its two-division format, opting to have one league with 12 teams, giving the league a better chance at more NCAA tournament teams, Cal said, "This is no knock on the Big East but they’ve had 19 teams in the tournament the last two years and how many have made it by the first round? How is this happening? When they start playing each other they say the 11th team is really good. What? We have to figure out how you play the best schedule you can play and still win. That’s different for all of us. I think that’s more important than 16 or 18 (conference) games." 

Card Chronicle also brings up the fact Calipari, in March, said the Big East is a product of "media hype." So Pitino, the former Kentucky coach who led them to a title in '96, clearly knew what he was doing when he said this:

The coach jabbed back just a bit tonight at a Cardinal Caravan event in Shelbyville. When introducing his son, Richard, to the crowd, he said:

"(Richard) went away for a couple of years to learn how to do things in a second-rate league, then get back to the big time."

Richard Pitino spent the past two seasons in the SEC as an assistant under Billy Donovan, a Pitino disciple. It's as much a playful jab as it is an under-the-surface shot. And a truthful one. The Big East has been a better league than the SEC for most of its existence. Undeniable. And Kentucky, you'll remember, saw its 2011 season end in the Final Four at the hands of Connecticut, a Big East team.

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Since: May 13, 2010
Posted on: June 16, 2011 10:03 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

I thought SEC was short for second?  You know....Be back in a sec.  What's the fuss?

Ah...it don't matter....

SU's gonna kick all ya'll's azzez.  68...can I have a double astrick in cbb?  (ya'll's)  They get em in the pro's don't they?  And there I go again....hard to stay on subject.

SU's gonna put the beat down on all the nation....big east, SEC, ACC.....Duck Fuke!  And UNC too.  It don't matter cause SU don't care who day bitz slapp.


Whoday?  Don't care. 



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: June 16, 2011 9:42 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Again with the 2011 conference RPI matthew? Nearsighted much? Or could it be since the RPI statistics I posted previously over the past ten years comparing the major conferences doesn't support your silly argument?

As for me being delusional anything's possible but let's not compare psychiatric conditions here. Btw, you're wrong again. Big shock right just like your electric shock therapy but no I do not think rick is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I never did. We've already covered this but I thought he was the wrong hire at UK back when Eddie Sutton was ran off. I also never appreciated the way he tried to hold Kentucky ransom for that life time contract he wanted back in '97. Or many of the other things he's said and done since leaving UK but that's on him. We have the coach we need now.

As for your two points, again you're wrong. As one UK fan has already pointed out Tubby Smith won a title in '98 after rick left and the second one is kinda funny. I bet you read that every morning on your way into work. I need a #8 with a large coffee.

But you are right about one thing and it is the point of the NCAA tournament to win it. Speaking of winning where was UL? Oh yeah Morehead St.

Now read Calipari's statement again when asked how the SEC can land more NCAA tournament bids in the future at the SEC Coaches Conference:

"This is no knock on the Big East but they've had 19 teams in the tournament the last two years and how many have made it by the first round?" Calipari said. "How is this happening? When they start playing each other they say the 11th team is really good. What? We have to figure out how you play the best schedule you can play and still win. That's different for all of us. I think that's more important than 16 or 18 [conference] games."

Clearly he pointed out he wasn't knocking the Big East. But he feels they're overrated by the media. That's his opinion. And like everyone else in the free world he's entitled to his opinion. Unless you want argue the bill of rights next. 

Pitino was probably irritated by John Calipari's recent criticism of the Big East receiving so many NCAA tournament bids the past few seasons, Louisville coach Rick Pitino took a jab at the SEC on Thursday night.

"[Richard] went away for a couple of years to learn how to do things in a second-rate league, then get back to the big time."
Nowhere in that comment did I see anything specifying basketball. So it's safe to assume he meant the SEC as a whole. Then when questioned about his comments Pitino stated this gem:

"The one thing I don't do, and I really mean this, I don't put my opinion into other people's business. I mind my own business. I don't profess to know how many teams should get in from the SEC or the Big East. That's why we have committees. So I mind my own business on stuff like that. The SEC is an outstanding conference. The ACC is an outstanding conference. Some years the Big East will be the best, some years the ACC, another year the SEC. So I don't put my laundry into someone else's basket."
But that's exactly what he did was put his "laundry" into someone else's basket by stating the SEC was a second rate league and then tried to retract or pull that previous statement back [prematurely] when questioned by the media. Damn those intimate settings right.

Bottom line slick Calipari's response was due to a direct question from a member of the media concerning the SEC and how to get more teams into the NCAA tournament. Pitino's was obviously backhanded because he was upset by what Calipari said. And again, if you look at the ACC, Big Ten(Eleven now), Big 12, Big East, and SEC over the past twelve years in reference to the SOS and RPI as I've already posted the ACC is clearly the best conference followed closely by the SEC and the Big Ten in most categories.  

Now try to come up with something worth responding to instead of acting like a tool or a troll and don't burn my damn hashbrown and no I don't want cheese on that.







Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: June 16, 2011 8:44 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Seems like the only thing you can do is co-sign UKfan68's comments...as for him he's just another delusional UK fan that is upset that Rick left UK...rewind the clock to 1996 and he thinks Rick Pitino is the best thing since sliced bread and don't let him tell you any different!!!!So just remember 2 things 1)you haven't won anything since Rick left, 2)No shoes, no shirts, no service!!!!


I am MORE than capable of independent thought, but rarely have the time to go on a well thought, time consuming response, like UKfan68 does. Besides, he is EXTREMELY thorough, and EXTREMELY knowledgable on his postings, consistently receiving 5 stars, and IS ranked as one of the top 1000 people on here.....which is completely unlike you.


as for him he's just another delusional UK fan that is upset that Rick left UK

Pretty sure that I can speak for UKfan68 here.....you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. I GUARANTEE that he never even wanted Slick Rick as coach of Kentucky. He has stated this many times. Personally, I was glad UK hired him, considering he was UK's 5th choice (that is FACT....look it up....PJ Carlisimo was offered before the Slickster was.). But, after meeting him in 1997, and seeing what a COLD HEARTED BASTARD he was, I was EXTREMELY happy that he left.

1)you haven't won anything since Rick left, 2)No shoes, no shirts, no service!!!!

And THIS is where you discredit yourself, and PROVE that you have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge of college basketball.
Who won the title in 1998? Kentucky
When did Slick Rick leave Kentucky? 1997
Who was the coach that won the National Title in 1998? Tubby Smith

You can't even get the "no shoes, no shirt, no service" correct. The answer to this one is OBVIOUSLY Slick Rick, from a stanky, middle aged, hoe, when he had his 15 seconds of SHAME!!!




Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2011 10:05 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

2011 Conference RPI

#1 Big East
#2 Big Ten
#3 Big 12
#4 Mountain West
#5 ACC
#6 SEC

And I thought the point of the NCAA tourney was to win it....and I recall the UCONN huskies beating UK for the 2nd time and winning a National Championship....Only 1 can win and it was the Big East so is that enough facts for you!!!!!I forgot the SEC probably had a better assist to TO ratio which makes them the best conference in the country!!!!!



Since: Jun 13, 2011
Posted on: June 15, 2011 8:11 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

I BELIEVE KY WON THE 1998 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP UNDER TUBBY SMITH, I THINKS THATS A BIG DEAL AND I STILL LIKE PITINO BUT WOULDNT TRADE COACHES WITH LOUISVILLE TODAY.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2011 6:58 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Seems like the only thing you can do is co-sign UKfan68's comments...as for him he's just another delusional UK fan that is upset that Rick left UK...rewind the clock to 1996 and he thinks Rick Pitino is the best thing since sliced bread and don't let him tell you any different!!!!So just remember 2 things 1)you haven't won anything since Rick left, 2)No shoes, no shirts, no service!!!!



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:39 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Well cbs is fairly strict on what language we can and can't use around here so we have to keep it at least PG-13 it seems so we're forced to use words that don't always best describe our true thoughts and opinions of certain posers without the t.

And for the UK fans that can remember it I think back in the early to mid 90's there was a lithograph of a wildcat with a cardinal assuming the position and the fitting phrase of "Hup there it is!"  That they and their coach sticky ricky should be familar with by now and somehow seems more than appropriate.



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:31 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

They were good, but not as good as your plastering of another Loserville, as you put it, "numbnuts".


Well you how it is around here CBS is pretty strict on what you can write and what you can't so sometimes we're forced to use words that don't quite sum up exact thoughts and opinions of certain individuals but we have to keep it at least PG-13 and for the Cats fans that remember this old one....Hup there it is! Wink



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:00 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Smithfan hows that popcorn and beer working out for ya?


They were good, but not as good as your plastering of another Loserville, as you put it, "numbnuts".

Now THAT was entertaining, and well deserving of MORE than 5 stars, but 5 will have to suffice.



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2011 1:14 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Sorry I didn't realize UL fans knew any jokes that didn't involve gone in 15 seconds dribbling down your pant leg, wearing chicken buckets on their heads, or the Cleveland Clinic. And not that it's any of your damn business what I did or do now but yes I did play the game probably at a higher level than you ever have.

Now as far as copying and pasting whats your fascination with that? Your momma won't let you play with scissors yet? Or are you just afraid you'll miss your next line beard appointment? But statistics don't lie. People do. Convenient to your argument you posted conference RPI's from last season alone. The statistics I posted compare the major conferences from 1998-1999 forward but I suppose that's to far back in history and not modern enough for you is it. Since the 90's they where still throwing footballs at peach baskets.

Now as for the do I have any thoughts of my own well yeah.....Yee haw! Now where was I oh yeah I'm not The Ville I, The Ville II, or The Ville III that copies and pastes everything I read from the Courier Journal numbnuts. And since we're on the subject don't you have anything better to do than come here and get posterized by those mean and nasty Kentucky fans....like wash your gangsta jerseys, buy a hairbrush to beat somebody with, get a new tattoo, iron the bill of your hat, or maybe even meet your friends(if you have any that don't blow up) down at BW3's and discuss how you're gonna show us on the gridiron this season! L yeah!?!?!?!

Now let me get this straight first you question whether I know anything about UK basketball  and put me down as a fan question whether I can name any of the members of those teams and then dismiss their victories and national titles as being irrelevant to the sport all at the same time.....man you need a doctor. And some serious medication.

For the sake of argument the 1978 Kentucky championship team from memory without google jerkwad everyone else please excuse the spelling if I get any wrong....Macy, Givens, Lee, Robey, Shidler, Williams, Gettlefinger, Phillips, Claytor, Cowen and I believe Casey played on that team as well. On a sidenote one of my favorite teams as a child and even had an autographed basketball by the entire team.

The others where obviously well before my time but again without google in '48, '49, and '51 they had players by the name of Bill Spivey, Wah Wah Jones and Alex Groza.

The 1958 team was the original fab five. Not the team from Michigan. Ralph Beard and Vernon Hatton played on that team as well as Joe B. Hall.....One of only three men that actually played on a national title winning team and then coach a team to a national title.

Now go hump somebody elses leg for awhile.

Smithfan hows that popcorn and beer working out for ya? Wink



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