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Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Posted on: June 10, 2011 10:31 am
 
By Matt Norlander

Rick Pitino's capability for a good quote has too often gone overlooked. Thankfully, in the doldrums of June, college basketball's second-worst month of the year (only August is worse), Pitino has delivered some fighting words. Words that will have some lasting impact by the time Kentucky and Louisville play each other around New Year's Eve.

And the words aren't even directed at Kentucky -- they're a shot at the SEC. The Louisville coach sent a verbal barb flying Wednesday in the direction of the conference, a clear response to something John Calipari said last week.

After the SEC ditched its two-division format, opting to have one league with 12 teams, giving the league a better chance at more NCAA tournament teams, Cal said, "This is no knock on the Big East but they’ve had 19 teams in the tournament the last two years and how many have made it by the first round? How is this happening? When they start playing each other they say the 11th team is really good. What? We have to figure out how you play the best schedule you can play and still win. That’s different for all of us. I think that’s more important than 16 or 18 (conference) games." 

Card Chronicle also brings up the fact Calipari, in March, said the Big East is a product of "media hype." So Pitino, the former Kentucky coach who led them to a title in '96, clearly knew what he was doing when he said this:

The coach jabbed back just a bit tonight at a Cardinal Caravan event in Shelbyville. When introducing his son, Richard, to the crowd, he said:

"(Richard) went away for a couple of years to learn how to do things in a second-rate league, then get back to the big time."

Richard Pitino spent the past two seasons in the SEC as an assistant under Billy Donovan, a Pitino disciple. It's as much a playful jab as it is an under-the-surface shot. And a truthful one. The Big East has been a better league than the SEC for most of its existence. Undeniable. And Kentucky, you'll remember, saw its 2011 season end in the Final Four at the hands of Connecticut, a Big East team.

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Comments

Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: June 13, 2011 9:40 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

are you for real guy??....he was the top dog Head Coach at both of those institutions. so in my educated opinion...he is FULLY responsible for everything that happens in his basketball world and with his players. damn son...just as in any organization when rules or laws are broken...top down principal. as chief you are legally responsible. didnt realize they just hang the mailboy out.


"Top Dog" doesn't mean he was guilty of anything. But, to educate you......

Marcus Camby accepted gifts from an agent, without Coach Cal knowing. It was actually Coach Cal who found out AND REPORTED IT TO THE NCAA. If he were cheating, then why would he report it to the NCAA himself? This is all FACT, with Marcus Camby even apologizing to UMass last summer for what he did.

Memphis was busted simply because Derrick Rose refused to respond to an NCAA summons about his test scores. THe NCAA was not able to verify his scores, and therefore, invalidated the scores. Again, this is fact. If you think Coach Cal was able to infiltrate the SAT testing center and rig the test, then you are more than entitled to your opinion.


Problem is Cuse, you throw your OPINION (so in my educated opinion....your own words) as fact, and use it to influence others, and that is simply WRONG. If you want to be taken seriously, then you should try posting FACTS!!

Do I believe Coach Cal is clean as a whistle? No. Do I think he has committed major violations? No. Do I think all coaches, including Cal have committed minor violations? Yes, I do. Why? Because the NCAA is such a diluted mess that they make it nearly impossible to NOT commit a violation.




Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: June 13, 2011 9:25 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

are you for real guy??....he was the top dog Head Coach at both of those institutions. so in my educated opinion...he is FULLY responsible for everything that happens in his basketball world and with his players. damn son...just as in any organization when rules or laws are broken...top down principal. as chief you are legally responsible. didnt realize they just hang the mailboy out.

playing devils advocate....u say he has been investigated so he has done nothing wrong. ok innocent until proven guilty. but all im saying is i wouldnt be surprised if he did. so they did investogate, but maybe hes real friggin good at covering his tracks. it aint cheating if you dont get caught right?

personally i like his style but i am always weary of him




Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: June 13, 2011 9:09 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Is lville better then umass or memphis? lol. i got a hunch after he wins a title there will be a new record on how fast it gets vacated....  with an entire season stripped.

it will be a shame to see such a proud program like kentucky turn into a umass and or memphis after cali gets caught and bolts for nba leaving uk with a death sentence.

As successful he his...im shocked uk hired a guy who shouldnt even allowed in a college basketball arena....everything he touches turns to you know what. when things are too good to be true they usually are.

i mean when it comes to recruiting...its hard to believe that hes edging out the dukes, uncs, cuses, uconns, michigan sts, kansas...EVERY time... the only thing that smells that good is stacks of cash generally.


Cuse, thanks for another uneducated, uninformed posting. You OBVIOUSLY have no clue as to why UMass and Memphis had their Final Fours vacated. Try researching each situation before you post. You only make yourself look stupid.

And, for the record....Coach Cal HAS been investigated by the NCAA, but has never been found to have committed ANY violations....unlike Slick Rick, who HAS been busted by the NCAA for recruiting violations.



Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: June 13, 2011 9:04 am
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Is lville better then umass or memphis? lol. i got a hunch after he wins a title there will be a new record on how fast it gets vacated....  with an entire season stripped.

it will be a shame to see such a proud program like kentucky turn into a umass and or memphis after cali gets caught and bolts for nba leaving uk with a death sentence.

As successful he his...im shocked uk hired a guy who shouldnt even allowed in a college basketball arena....everything he touches turns to you know what. when things are too good to be true they usually are.

i mean when it comes to recruiting...its hard to believe that hes edging out the dukes, uncs, cuses, uconns, michigan sts, kansas...EVERY time... the only thing that smells that good is stacks of cash generally.





Since: Feb 12, 2009
Posted on: June 12, 2011 11:58 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Then what about the Ohio Valley Conference in which Morehead State beat Louisville.

I don't know who puts their foot in the mouth the most:  Knight or Pitino.

This comes from a man who can't keep a female aroused for over 15 seconds.





Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: June 12, 2011 11:33 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Simply put......Kentucky > Morehead St. > LOSERVILLE


Therefore......



Kentucky > LOSERVILLE!!!



Fact is...when Slick Rick retires soon, LOSERVILLE will return to where they were before....


IRRELEVENT!!


LOSERVILLE will NEVER equal what Kentucky has. That's FACT!!



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2011 11:08 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Clearly you are a moron, go cut and paste somewhere else...these statistics have nothing to do with Rick calling the SEC a second rate league...even fans of the SEC in this post agree the SEC in basketball for the past 5 or 6 years has been sub par, football is a different story SEC is clearly the best...UK has been irrelevant since 1998 when Rick's stamp was still on the program...you UK fans just can't get over the fact that he left



Since: Feb 15, 2010
Posted on: June 12, 2011 8:56 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

OUCH!!! lil Ricky that hurt. If the SEC is "second rate", what does that make the OVC? aka Morehead St. Your a has been 10 loss ricky. Thanks for the memories but Cal now owns you. Just accept it and move on.



Since: Sep 27, 2008
Posted on: June 12, 2011 8:49 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

I am a SEC Razorback fan and my fellow SEC folks, I can not argue that our conference from top to bottoms is even in the realm of being the best in Basketball, it is plain and simple that it is not the best.  There are definitely other conferences that are much better than the SEC from top to bottom ACC, BE, Big Ten (at times) so no point in arguing about this its kind of silly, not sure why there is debate about this.  Top to Bottom we are not even close in basketball.   Top to bottom in Ft. Ball not a question, SEC is the best and has been for several years.



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2011 8:33 pm
 

Pitino: SEC is 'second-rate' basketball league

Well I can see the UofL fans are out in full force but for the sake of a silly arse argument let's look at numbers and statistics before anyone joins in and claims superiority. RPI and strength of schedule (SOS) stats are based on averages since the 1998-1999 season. All other stats go back to the 1980-1981 season.

RPI Rankings (Season Averages)

Conf RPI Rank:
   ACC 2.6(1st), Big 12 3.8(5th), Big East 3.6(t-3rd), Big Eleven 3.6(t-3rd), SEC 3.2(2nd).

Avg Team RPI Rank: ACC 61.0(1st), Big 12 74.7(5th), Big East 71.0(3rd), Big Eleven 72.8(4th) 64.2(2nd).

Median Team RPI: Rank: ACC 53.7(2nd) Big 12 61.2(5th) Big East 56.8(4th) Big Eleven 52.9(1st) SEC 54.8(3rd).

Hi Team RPI Rank: ACC 2.9(1st), Big 12 6.2(3rd), Big East 5.8(2nd), Big Eleven 8.2(5th), SEC 6.8(4th).

Low Team RPI Rank: ACC 144.8(1st) Big 12 198.2(4th) Big East 202.2(5th), Big Eleven 194.8(3rd) 157.9(2nd).

Clearly the ACC is the best conference by RPI rankings since they lead four of the five categories but the SEC is clearly second only to the ACC not the Big East.

Non-Conference Games

Non-Conf Winning Pct:
ACC 0.764(1st), Big 12 0.719(3rd), Big East 0.737(2nd), Big Eleven 0.717(4th), SEC 0.715(5th).

Non-Conf Opponent SOS Rank: ACC 8.3(2nd), Big 12 12.4(5th), Big East 11.9(4th) Big Eleven 3.8(1st) SEC 8.6(3rd).

Non-Conf Opponent RPI Rank:  ACC 2.8(2nd) Big 124.8(t-4th), Big East 4.8(t-4th) Big Eleven 3.1(3rd), SEC 2.6(1st).

Again the ACC claims the top spot by the numbers with the Big Eleven and the SEC following closely behind. But study the numbers the Big East wins at a high rate. Almost as high as the ACC but against lesser talented teams based on SOS and RPI.

NCAA Tournament

NCAA Tourney Teams:
ACC 156(3rd), Big 12 80(5th), Big East 172(1st), Big Eleven 167(2nd), SEC 149(4th).

NCAA Tourney Winning Pct:  ACC 0.669(1st), Big 12 0.593(4th), Big East 0.619(2nd), Big Eleven 0.594(2nd), SEC 0.588(5th).

Sweet Sixteen Teams:  ACC 98(1st), Big 12 36(5th), Big East 91(2nd), Big Eleven 84(3rd), SEC 72(4th).

Final Four Teams: ACC 29(1st), Big 12 6(5th), Big East 17(t-3rd), Big Eleven 18(2nd), SEC 17(t-3rd).

NCAA Tourney Champions: ACC 10(1st), Big 12 1(5th), Big East 6(2nd), Big Eleven 4(4th), SEC 5(3rd).

These numbers prove once again the ACC is the best conference in the NCAA Tournament and that Calipari was right and Pitino was wrong in that the Big East is all hype and media driven.

Crawl back under your rocks now boys until football seasons starts.



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