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Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Posted on: July 1, 2011 10:50 am
Edited on: July 1, 2011 11:08 am
 


By Matt Norlander

The Big East intra-conference schedule was released yesterday. Here's what Rick Pitino had to say about it:

"We have one of the premier commissioners in athletics, but whoever's doing our scheduling must be doing it with a Ouija board. How can you play two of the top three (projected) teams in the league twice and have to play another top team that's a rival game (at Cincinnati) on the road for a second straight year? It just doesn't make any sense to me. West Virginia has a similar argument. They must be doing it with a Ouija board."

OK, that was in Louisville's press release. Crafted by the school and looked over by a few people before it was shot out to the public. And that's the quote Pitino chose to supply and the school was cool going with.

All I can say is ... awesome.

If that was the quote that was allowed, then Pitino must be really pissed. Without the filter of Louisville's athletic department offices, who knows what sort of disgust Pitino would have spit had a reporter got him one-on-one. By the way, here's Louisville's schedule: home games against Connecticut, DePaul, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, USF, Syracuse and Villanova; on the road versus Cincinnati, DePaul, Marquette, Pittsburgh, Providence, St. John's, Seton Hall, Syracuse and West Virginia.

Yeah, it's tough, but not the toughest. Look at that link, and you'll see other schools who have harder 18-gamers within the conference. And, to channel Dan Hawkins, it's the Big East! Tough games are coming, and the better you are and more high-profile you are, the more rigorous the schedule, generally, because TV dictates a lot of what goes on here. Pitino and Louisville are big sells. He knows that.

This is his only way of fighting back. Let's wait and see what the non-conference schedule looks like for Louisville, when the school releases it in a few weeks. If it's loaded, we'll know why Pitino's got his britches in a bunch. If it's weak, then this is nothing more than whining.

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Since: Mar 15, 2010
Posted on: July 8, 2011 6:25 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Ville4real, Kanter did not intentionally turn Pro, while Tyler definitely did!  If Kanter had intentionally turned Pro, and knowingly accepted the  money, then he would not have even attempted to come play college ball at UK, and would have just stayed in Europe and made millions, until he came to the NBA.  Hmmmm, I wonder if he would have played if he stayed at Washington?  Kanter and UK held nothing was held back in the investigation.


I don't necessarily think that UK will be better this season.  They were very good last year. Davis has great long term potential but he does not weigh nearly enough  (200 lbs.) to be a physical presence this season against players who are older and outweigh him by 30 to 50 lbs. 

Is there something you know that none of the recruiting analyst know?!  The kid ways anywhere from 200 to 220 from what I have read, and he is the definition of a MISMATCH!  He has a guards handle, is athletic, can shoot from the outside, and has the length to block anyone!  He is light, I give you that, but from what I have been hearing and seeing from his summer pro camps, he has been working heavily on his defense against bigger 5's and has been succeeding (the Plumlees).  Plus, I bet he gains around 10 to 15 pounds before the season starts.  Oh, and NBA teams are salivating over him because they see him as a Kevin Garnet prototype!

Liggins will be missed immensely and Harrelson will be missed some as well. Do you think Teague will be better than Knight? I am not so sure. 

I agree, Liggins will be missed, for his defense was a catalyst for our teams success, along with Harrellson stepping up.  The thing is, Harrellson came out of nowhere to have that season, and UK has more players this coming year with more talent to fill the wholes (Davis, Wiltjer and an ever improving Vargas (maybe he will have a Harrellson like year)).  Someone that can easily fill the defensive void left by Liggins, is Anthony Gilchrist!  The kid is known as a never let down type of player, and has a defensive tenacity that few have.

The problem is, we can not compare Teague to Knight.  Knight played on a team that lost 7 players off its roster, and did not get Kanter eligible. He had to be a point/shooting guard because UK did not have many scoring options (people that can create their own shot) last season.  UK only went 6 deep for 90% of the season (Vargas came on at the end)!  Teague on the other hand, is going to have Jones, Miller, Lamb, Witjer, Davis, and Gilchrist who are all going to be capable scorers next season (to say the least), who will assist him in his assists quest.  Also, Poole and Hood were 4 star (top-50) recruits who could show-up next year. 

I just think that a team loaded with veterans (5 juniors and 3 seniors) will be poised to make a deep run compared to a freshman/sophomore line-up.

Well, I believe most people have said the exact same thing every year, and Cal has proven them wrong!  Yet, UK will have Jones, Miller, and Lamb (key pieces to a Final-4 team) to lead this squad while they grow, and after 30+ games, they will be seasoned, as the last couple years have shown.  UL on the other hand lost their key scorer (Knowles saved UL countless times), and will have to replace him.  It will be interesting to see if Swop will be able to fill that role off of an injury year.







Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: July 8, 2011 3:58 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Davis has great long term potential but he does not weigh nearly enough  (200 lbs.) to be a physical presence this season against players who are older and outweigh him by 30 to 50 lbs. 

Davis weighs 225 pounds not 200 just to clear that up. And will add more weight and muscle before the season starts since he's added twelve pounds since arriving this summer.

Liggins will be missed immensely and Harrelson will be missed some as well.


Anytime you lose senior leadership they'll be missed. In the case of Liggins as much as he did (especially on defense) I think he's easier to replace with someone like Kidd-Gilchrist and now that Doron Lamb get's it than Harrellson. Since it was Harrellson that was content last season to go out and hustle his rear off to do the little things to help them win ball games. But we'll see how much Jones as matured as well as if Davis is all that he's been labeled coming in.

Do you think Teague will be better than Knight?

Depends on how you're comparing them. If you're expecting Teague to come in and have Brandon Knight's shooting touch from the outside then I think you're in for a disappointment. But let's also keep in mind that Knight is more of a two guard than a point guard. But if you're expecting Teague to come in and distribute the basketball more in line with a prototype point guard....say John Wall then I think he'll be just fine.

I just think that a team loaded with veterans (5 juniors and 3 seniors) will be poised to make a deep run compared to a freshman/sophomore line-up.

Perhaps....but since you're so confident how about a little wager?




Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: July 5, 2011 1:45 am
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Dieng was hurt at the beginning of the UK game. He stepped on the basketball. Kanter was a professional basketball player. Allowing him to play would be like allowing us to re-commit Jeremy Tyler after his Israel tour.

I don't necessarily think that UK will be better this season. They were very good last year. Davis has great long term potential but he does not weigh nearly enough  (200 lbs.) to be a physical presence this season against players who are older and outweigh him by 30 to 50 lbs.  He will be drafted on potential alone. Liggins will be missed immensely and Harrelson will be missed some as well. Do you think Teague will be better than Knight? I am not so sure.

UK will be a top 10 team and so will the Cards. I just think that a team loaded with veterans (5 juniors and 3 seniors) will be poised to make a deep run compared to a freshman/sophomore line-up.

We will see.




Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2011 7:50 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

He could always petition the MAC to join their conference- might even win a championship



Since: Mar 15, 2010
Posted on: July 4, 2011 4:01 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Ville, Dieng did play against UK @ the Chicken Bucket.  I agree, Buckles was missed for his rebounding prowess, but to say you would have won is like me saying UK would have won by 30 if Kanter was able to play.

This year's game will be very competitive in Rupp Arena (probably 4 or 5 points one way or the other). Louisville will go farther than Kentucky in the tournament this season.


UK, is going to be much deeper, and way more versatile this next year, than they were last season!  Next year the game is also at Rupp, in which UK has not lost for some time.  So forgive me if I think this game has a much bigger chance of being one sided, then the chance of it happening last year without Kanter, and in the Chicken Bucket!  Louisville has a great recruiting class, but they lost their best scorer in Knowles!  I wonder what Swopshire's return will belike?  
Now, with Swop coming back, along with Buckles and Siva, and with your good class, you guys should be pretty good, but, I think with this game in Rupp, our depth/mismatches (Davis and Wiltjer's 3 point shooting ability out of the 5) will cause much more havoc then last year.  Along with our newcomers, the experience and ability of our Miller, Lamb, and Jones, along with Vargas supposed improvements this summer, UK will to be too much for the Cards, especially in Rupp.  Cal has shown that he can develop freshmen better then anyone in the country, and I do  not think Pitino is nearly on the same level (do not need some reasoning for this, because I just look at the actual results of both coaches freshmen).

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On top of all of that, how can you say UL will go further in the tourney then UK?  What evidence is there?!  UK went to the Final-4 with two and a half post players, and this coming year we will be 4 deep (Davis, Jones, Wiltjer, Vargas).  UK was only 6 deep for most of last season (7 at the end with Vargas coming around) and they won the SEC tourney and went to the Final-4!  This coming year, UK is going to be quite a bit better then last, and Cal has done nothing but succeed at UK (Elite-8 and a Final-4).


Go Cats! 




Since: Apr 21, 2011
Posted on: July 4, 2011 1:10 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

Why would anyone take Pitino seriously any more? As a guest TV analyst during the tournament last year, he proved he had no clue about how good different teams were (picking Butler against a team from his own conference?). And he has clearly proven he lacks any sense of right and wrong.

Everyone criticizes Calipari as a slimeball, but I would much rather have my kid play for Cal than Pitino, and I'm a Big East fan.




Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2011 11:21 am
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

If Buckles or Dieng or Swopshire were healthy, Louisville would have beaten UK last season. Our Marra 6'4"  on Harrelson 6' 10" defense was not the match-up we wanted.


This year's game will be very competitive in Rupp Arena (probably 4 or 5 points one way or the other). Louisville will go farther than Kentucky in the tournament this season.




Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2011 8:58 am
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

I think if you look back, ole rick has complained about his schedule around this time every year.  
(an attention whore's work is never done)



Since: Mar 15, 2010
Posted on: July 4, 2011 1:13 am
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair

I apologize Ville, I was not counting a NIT.  Yet, I like our regular season progress against the Big East!




Since: Feb 12, 2009
Posted on: July 3, 2011 10:39 pm
 

Pitino believes his Big East schedule is unfair


2011 UCONN
2010 West Virginia
2009 Notre Dame
2008 Marquette
2007 Kansas
2006 UCONN
2005 Michigan State
2004 UAB-- Conference USA
2003 Marquette
2002 Maryland
2001 USC
2000 Syracuse
1999 Michigan State

7 of the last 13 seasons by my count.

Still better than UL record for the past 2 years.  I forgot what they did.  Oh they lost in the 1st round both years.  Damn I didn't know that.  Glad you let me know.  Thanks.


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