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Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

Posted on: September 7, 2011 9:46 am
By Gary Parrish

Texas A&M's move from the Big 12 to the SEC is on hold until the SEC gets assurances that no Big 12 school will sue because, suddenly, at least one Big 12 school -- specifically Baylor -- is threatening to do exactly that. My question: Why would Baylor give such an assurance?

Baylor seems, at this moment, to have one foot in Conference USA and the other on something slippery as the college landscape shifts, and if that's the case isn't it only responsible for Baylor to try to scare the Big 12 into staying together by any means necessary? I have no idea if Baylor could win such a lawsuit against the SEC, commissioner Mike Slive and/or Texas A&M because I'm not a lawyer. But what I do know is that, in this country, you can threaten to sue pretty much anybody for pretty much anything, and if the SEC and A&M want that possibility off the table before moving forward then Baylor ought to make the SEC and A&M give something in return.

What something?

Could be anything, including straight-cash homey.

But it would be foolish to take the threat of a lawsuit off the table just because the SEC asks.

So good for Baylor for standing up.

Ultimately, the school's actions will probably only stall the inevitable.

But desperate shots are worth taking when you find yourself in desperate times.

Since: Mar 12, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2011 4:02 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

Funny that nobody mentions Nebraska and Colorado who started the dominos falling that will ultimately lead to the demise of the Big 12.  Didn't hear no talk of lawsuits when that happened.  If you're going to start the blame game start with Nebraska and Colorado.

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 3:46 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

I am very angry for no reason so I am going to write a letter telling all college football programs how very angry I am.


Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2011 3:41 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

I don't understand why the Big 12 is worried more about the teams they're losing rather than replacing them.  Nebraska and Colorado are already gone, now A&M.  Nearing implosion, you better get some replacements before the Pac 12 becomes the Pac 16 and the rest of the Big 12 is in the dust.  Plenty of possibilities in adding other good football schools to the conference in the region that would also help viewers for the Big 12 network.  Houston, TCU, Air Force, BYU, Wyoming, Southern Miss, etc.  I know these teams aren't juggernauts like the conference lost in Nebraska and A&M, but if you want to keep it together this is the only way.  Time to sh*t or get off the pot, fold or play, hunt or be hunted....the clock is ticking.

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 3:30 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

And Horns that agreement still gave us the ability to get out with exit fees.  If the rest of the conference dissolves then we rightfully wouldnt have to pay them, but that's out of our control.  The reason why this is occuring is because there is a clause in the Longhorn Network contract that states they will be making a increased effort to slowly get more and more conference games only on it.  Also states that they will have nothing to do with any conference network which just makes them a leech on the conference and will affect the financially freedom of the Big 12.  Texas only brought the conference back last year to try to find 9 pawns and A&M backed out because of it.

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 3:26 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

You got some blinders on talkling about Baylor football.  Last year was the best season since Baylor has been in the Big 12.  THEY WENT 4-4 IN CONFERENCE AND FINISHED 7-6!  One Winning season with a bowl loss in 15 years and you think the football team is relevant?  Overall conference record is 18-101. This year you have played one game against an overrated TCU and will stay ranked till you actually play real teams starting Oct. 15th.  Women's and Men's basketball has been relevant lately, but you cannot compare rankings for a sport that hasn't even started.  As a whole the athletic department is a fraction of what the other schools bring and that's the reason why Baylor is screaming.  No one else has to because they actually will land on their feet.  Time to rejoin the kids table that you should have been at to begin with had it not been for Ann Richards.

Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:42 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

BUBig12Sports...    You raise some interesting points about your Baylor program... 
However, I have only one question:  If Baylor was so great and attractive and all, then why are none of the AQ conferences (other than the soon-to-be defunct B12) discussing inviting Baylor to join?   

I'm not saying it to be mean, but rather as a question... why is BU not considered for the 14th SEC school, or for the BE, or for the PAC16 (in lieu of Tex Tech)?   

Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:38 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

BUBig12:  you are probably just about right.  Eventually the SEC and Pac 16 will work together and leave the NCAA (which is really VERY small town and stodgy).  This will allow the formation of a true football play-off, with the leading teams from other conferences invited as well.  Think about a 16 team playoff broadcast worldwide.  That's what the conference marketers think about every day.  It's only the university Presidents, who quite rightly are afraid they are superfluous, that are slowing the process.

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:33 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

A&M signed a letter last year saying they would stay in and support the Big 12. Now the aggies are complaining that Baylor signed a letter promising not to sue and reneged. I guess what goes around, comes around.


Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:32 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

Most of the problem is Baylor's lack of brand recognition outside of Waco.  OU and UT bring brands that have real potential for international value, especially when sold through the already established USC, UCLA, Cal and Stanford brands.  Baylor seems to be getting started but is probably 10 years away, as a guess.

Since: Dec 20, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:10 pm

Baylor is desperate and right at the same time

I'm obviously a BU fan so I have some biased loyalty here.  I have nothing against any University doing what's in its best interest.  What I have a problem with is schools backing out on verbal and written contracts which is what A&M has done.  Obviously the UT & the Longhorn Network is the major issue and that can be resolved if everyone comes back to the table and renegotiates. 

If we go to large 16 team conferences it will be like having a bunch of Super Wal-Marts and everyone else not included will be shoved out like small businesses.  It's not good - and it shows the greed of these conference commissioners who only care about their own jobs and not what it's doing to rivalries and the economics in certain regions.

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