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Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:55 am
Edited on: October 19, 2011 9:58 am

By Matt Norlander

Just because you're long out of the coaching game doesn't mean you can't commit an NCAA violation.

It's looking like Bob Knight talked to a couple of recruits on the phone, and since those recruits have verbally agreed to play at Lamar, where son Pat Knight coaches, then an NCAA violation did indeed take place. Only basketball staff members, with a few exceptions, can speak with recruits about joining any sports program. Even though Bob Knight is Pat's father, he's considered a person of influence; it's why universities do their best to get famous alums around the schools as frequently as possible. Those notable alums can't speak directly to recruits, but their presence can have an influence.

It must be noted Knight had a near-flawless record with the NCAA during his coaching career. His Hall of Fame tenure at Indiana revolved around winning a ton of games (and three national titles), graduating his players and not breaking the rules. The fact this likely secondary violation has occurred drips with irony.

From the Indianapolis Star:
Regarding his conversation with Bob Knight, Minton said, “He told me that he thought I’ d be a good fit for the program and said he hoped he’d see me at Lamar.” The Beaumont Enterprise reported last week that the players “attended the Lamar football game Saturday and talked by phone with Bob Knight.”

NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson said he couldn’t comment specifically on the Lamar situation because he didn’t know the details. He added, however, “Generally speaking, telephone calls to prospects can only be made by coaching staff members or those listed in the exceptions.” The exceptions include the university president and academic advisors.
Lamar is reported to be dealing with the situation internally right now, and it's likely they'll self-report and receive a slap on the wrist. Pat Knight, who's about as different from his dad as you could expect, didn't hide from the issue. In fact, in the following  135 words, he sounds a lot like Pop.

“It was a quick hello on the phone and that was it,” he told the Star. “We recruited the heck out of the kids. He had nothing to do with that. I mean, he just was excited we were recruiting Indiana again and wanted to say hello to them and that was it.”

Pat Knight added, “At least I’m not paying them. The NCAA should look into guys that are paying players and not worry about guys that are doing it the right way. ... I don’t care if my dad is a celebrity or not. I think it’s (expletive), honestly. The guy is my dad. If he wants to say hello to a recruit, he can. If we get reprimanded, fine. They need to check into guys that are outright cheating instead of nickel-dime stuff like that.”

And ... scene. Thank you, Pat Knight.

Photo: AP

Since: Sep 25, 2008
Posted on: October 23, 2011 8:20 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

You can say what you want about how stupid the rule is that the school can't have people outside their staff calling or trying to influence the recruits but the point that most comments miss is that Bobby and Pat Knight seemingly knew that they were violating a rule and Pat's comments indicated he would do it again if he chose to.  That is the reason most people have had with it Bobby Knight and his arrogance.  He had a good record at Indiana but he just got more and more abusive to his family, the players (his and opposing), the refs, the media.  I think his issue was that he just got where he thought he was bigger than the game.  He should just take a step back from commenting on other programs (Kentucky) if he is going to knowingly cheat and that what it is if he knew he was violating a rule and that is whether the rule is dumb or not.  He doesn't get to decide which rules are dumb and which are not.

Since: Mar 22, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 2:04 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Gimme a break from yet more NCAA ridiculousness.

Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:59 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Look at that spelling of Calipari ("Callapari") by COLSPRTS! Is he serious? He must never watch or read about college basketball. Zero credibility. Next time hopefully he won't bother commenting.

Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:11 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Sorry, coming to this article after there are 5 pages of comments.  But this is stupid.  If the rules are truly as indicated, this is another STUPID thing by the NCAA and yet another reason schools ought to leave the NCAA.  As I understand this, an alumni or person loyal to a school, who is not on staff, cannot call recruits to encourage them to attend that school or generally shoot the breeze.  Aside from wondering outside of wiretapping every potential college recruit, am not sure how the NCAA transcripts phone calls.  If you're a student athlete I guess you cannot have a phone or ever talk to anyone on it...  especially anyone excited about the school where you're going.

And the response is that any alumni who cares about their school and its program won't violate the rules?  First, you'd have to know.  And if it's known...  WHAT PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM PRETENDING TO SUPPORT A SCHOOL, VIOLATING THE RULES AND THEREBY BENEFITING THEIR TRUE ALLEGIANCE?

Like I said, a stupid rule.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:13 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Callapari....what a model person.
just paid Memphis off this year, because him and Rose knew they cheated from the start. 
abused his wife???  thats a new one.   Have you ever talke to Patrick Knight and see if his dad abused him?  Of Course not you are just another idiot spewing from his keyboard.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:59 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Bob Knight, The MAN; the GENERAL the Legend, pure success - the creeps at NCAA set him up again, they're slimdogs

Yea Bob Knight the man and legend at abusing players and his wife oh and kicking his own son on national TV. I can't imagine what happend to that poor kid at home.

Since: Nov 30, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 10:49 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

A noteworthy violation would be Dad Newton selling his boy, Cam, to Auburn instead of Miss St.  Yes, the NCAA is a Gestapo style joke!

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 10:21 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

I hope mega conferences form, and they end up becoming powerful enough where they can start their own organization. 

The NCAA is a joke, has stupid rules and needs to be tought a lesson.  

Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:59 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation


Since: Nov 24, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:52 am

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Typical luckeye....Corrupt and cheating.

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