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Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:55 am
Edited on: October 19, 2011 9:58 am

By Matt Norlander

Just because you're long out of the coaching game doesn't mean you can't commit an NCAA violation.

It's looking like Bob Knight talked to a couple of recruits on the phone, and since those recruits have verbally agreed to play at Lamar, where son Pat Knight coaches, then an NCAA violation did indeed take place. Only basketball staff members, with a few exceptions, can speak with recruits about joining any sports program. Even though Bob Knight is Pat's father, he's considered a person of influence; it's why universities do their best to get famous alums around the schools as frequently as possible. Those notable alums can't speak directly to recruits, but their presence can have an influence.

It must be noted Knight had a near-flawless record with the NCAA during his coaching career. His Hall of Fame tenure at Indiana revolved around winning a ton of games (and three national titles), graduating his players and not breaking the rules. The fact this likely secondary violation has occurred drips with irony.

From the Indianapolis Star:
Regarding his conversation with Bob Knight, Minton said, “He told me that he thought I’ d be a good fit for the program and said he hoped he’d see me at Lamar.” The Beaumont Enterprise reported last week that the players “attended the Lamar football game Saturday and talked by phone with Bob Knight.”

NCAA spokesman Erik Christianson said he couldn’t comment specifically on the Lamar situation because he didn’t know the details. He added, however, “Generally speaking, telephone calls to prospects can only be made by coaching staff members or those listed in the exceptions.” The exceptions include the university president and academic advisors.
Lamar is reported to be dealing with the situation internally right now, and it's likely they'll self-report and receive a slap on the wrist. Pat Knight, who's about as different from his dad as you could expect, didn't hide from the issue. In fact, in the following  135 words, he sounds a lot like Pop.

“It was a quick hello on the phone and that was it,” he told the Star. “We recruited the heck out of the kids. He had nothing to do with that. I mean, he just was excited we were recruiting Indiana again and wanted to say hello to them and that was it.”

Pat Knight added, “At least I’m not paying them. The NCAA should look into guys that are paying players and not worry about guys that are doing it the right way. ... I don’t care if my dad is a celebrity or not. I think it’s (expletive), honestly. The guy is my dad. If he wants to say hello to a recruit, he can. If we get reprimanded, fine. They need to check into guys that are outright cheating instead of nickel-dime stuff like that.”

And ... scene. Thank you, Pat Knight.

Photo: AP

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 7:10 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

How does it feel being a dork. You obviously know nothing about college basketball or Bob Knight. His players will swear their allegiance to him. He has always been a role model for them and the choking incident has no bearing on the way his former players view him. How about doing some research before you respond?

Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 6:33 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Everyone on this thread whose saying this story is a big deal doesn't get it! These players are instantly going to make Lamar National Title Contenders, they were Burger King All-Americans!

Since: Jan 5, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 6:04 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

The rules don't apply to Bob or anyone else with this much arrogance. He should have a felony on his record for choking the player--not to mention hitting his son during a game. He is not a role model--just a bully. Not very good with a gun, either.

Since: Apr 12, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:35 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

You, sir, need a reality check.  Bob Knight should have been kicked out of CBB multiple times most notably when he choked his PG and/or threw a chair across the floor DURING a game.  If Bob K hadn't coaced in Indiana just down the road from the ncaa HQ and had connections to the ncaa President(s?), he would have been gone long ago; just like his whole attitude and arrogance.

Since: Apr 12, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:32 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

If Pat Knight has information the NCAA should hear then let's hear it.  Speak up or shut-up.  Accusations mean absolutely nothing Mr. Knight.  Seems the younger Knight is not so different from his father after all.  The stink is always elsewhere.  Nevermind the man behind the mirror.  Nevermind Bob's manhandling, berating, and physical abuse of his players.  It's the OTHER GUYS that are in the wrong.  Please.

Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:56 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

I would think a call from Bob Knight actually has a negative impact at this point. He hasn't been a good recruiter for about 20 years (when he choked his PG and completely lost touch with the modern player). Might as well let this one slide...

Since: Jun 29, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:51 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

I agree ....  what a joke and waste of time and energy.

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:18 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

 If alumni, former coaches etc want to help get kids to come to their school who cares!!  If you think every single team in the NCAA is not doing some of these same things all the time and for years and years now, then you are very naive.  WHO CARES, plenty of talent to go around.  NCAA is a joke the way the bring up these stupid violations all the time!

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:01 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Face it, the NCAA hates Bob Knight.  He's not politically correct and tells it like it is.   The NCAA hates the fact that Coach Knight holds the record for most wins and will try to tarnish his image at every opportunity.  Meanwhile, significant violations are running wild throughout the NCAA.  The NCAA has become a joke thanks to pseudo-intellectuals like the late Myles Brand.  Heck, even today Coach K said that schools could start leaving the NCAA.

Since: Oct 19, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 2:54 pm

Bob Knight commits secondary recruiting violation

Excuse me for mispelling.  I didn't say anything about the comment being reckless... the use of names just being thrown out is what I meant.  It seems he could have thrown coach k's (sorry i didn't capitolize... give you something to point out) name out there for opposites of Knight... I think coach k was more recently accused of violations... not Cal.

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