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The Poll Attacks are back

Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:20 pm
Edited on: October 21, 2011 8:26 am
By Gary Parrish

The Coaches Poll
just got released.

I've looked it over good.

Now it's time to Poll Attack.


Before looking at the poll I knew I'd be OK at the top as long as North Carolina and Kentucky got every first-place vote, and that's exactly what happened. Thirty-one coaches voted. Thirty put UNC No. 1. One put UK No. 1. And I'm cool with that. But a No. 1 vote for any other school would've been silly and an example of a voter being different just for the sake of being different, and I hate voters like that. So I'm glad the Coaches Poll didn't feature any voters like that. That's why I start with praise.

But how did St. John's get 11 votes?

The top eight players from last season's team -- that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight -- are all gone, leaving Malik Stith as the leading returning scorer. He's a 5-foot-11 guard who averaged 3.3 points in 12.2 minutes per game last season. Meantime, three of the top recruits have been ruled academically ineligible, which leaves St. John's with, I believe, just seven scholarship players. None of the veterans are impact players at the Division I level. None of the newcomers are named Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond. So this is not a team that should be getting votes for the Top 25. It's a team that should instead be picked about 12th in the Big East, which is where Big East coaches placed the Red Storm earlier this week.

And VCU getting four votes doesn't make much sense, either.

Look, nobody loves Shaka Smart more than me.

He's terrific.

But Jamie Skeen is not walking through that door.

And neither is Brandon Rozzell.

Or Joey Rodriguez.

Or Ed Nixon.

That means four of the top five scorers from last season's team are gone, and even that team -- the team with Skeen, Rozzell, Roriguez and Nixon -- finished just fourth in the Colonial ... behind George Mason, Old Dominion and Hofstra. People forget that because of the run to the Final Four. But the truth is that VCU was a bubble team for four months last season, and this team isn't as talented as that team. Perhaps Smart will prove me wrong. God knows he's done it before. But for now the Rams shouldn't be on anybody's Top 25 ballot.


Since: Nov 22, 2010
Posted on: October 25, 2011 11:08 am

The Poll Attacks are back

VCU and George Mason will disappoint many this year.  Good job pointing that out.

Since: Jun 25, 2008
Posted on: October 22, 2011 2:51 pm

The Poll Attacks are back

GP.......<br />  11 votes for St. John's??? then you proceeded to tell us what they lost to last year and they have one runt coming back. What you forgot   <br />3 of the top 100 recruits are on board and it looks like they could add 2 more that were ineligible for the fall semester. That would make for 5 recruits that were in the top 100 for this year plus the runt. I think the 11 votes were on the money.

Since: Jan 19, 2010
Posted on: October 21, 2011 3:22 pm

The Poll Attacks are back


I had to read this like 5 times, No Cuse bashing to start the season? Unlike you to say the least!

Since: Sep 14, 2009
Posted on: October 21, 2011 8:44 am

The Poll Attacks are back

Yes, Memphis does deserve to be in the top 10, and yes they are proven.............when the young Tigers finally put it together last year they looked like what everyone thought they would, an explosive bunch but they only had Tarik Black in the middle and that proved costly when they played ZONA in the 2nd round of the tourney and facing 2 6-10 players they still put on a show and lost AT THE BUZZER to a team that almost made the final four........this year's Memphis squad brought back EVERYONE and added one and done Adonis Thomas along with 6-10 Stan the end f the Maui i think u'll see a top 5 ranking for this unit and i think that they are without a doubt one of the top 10 teams in the nation once the dust settles i think the Tigers will be challenging for the NCAA title again and they should be fun to watch

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:38 pm

Love the link

to the USA Today and ESPN  rankings page....

Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:52 pm

The Poll Attacks are back

<span style="color: #000000;">First of all, this poll means little, if nothing, but arguing Belmont deserves votes is just silly.  Belmont was a solid team last year, but does any coach really believe they're a top-25 team.  That's what I think gets lost on some of these coaches.  Seriously, I don't think there are more than 35 teams that could seriously argue they're top-25 calibre, and pretty much consistently, there are 40-50 teams that receive votes.  I think this is a consequence of coaches believing a team like St. Johns, who had a dynamite year last year, are still on the up and up or something similar.  Belmont is possibly the fourth best team in the state of Tennessee after Vandy, Memphis, and UT, and ETSU might have a say in whether they're fifth.  So, I'd hold up on that little criticism.

Since: May 22, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 3:21 pm

The Poll Attacks are back

Gary, I think you could have extended these attacks.  Does an unproven Memphis squad merit a Top Ten ranking?  With no disciplinary or preseason distractions, doesn't Mississippi State deserve Top 25 billing?  Lastly, even as a Florida fan, are they really better than Wisconsin, Pitt, or Baylor?  

Since: Nov 25, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 3:04 pm

The Poll Attacks are back

I think the Buckeyes deserved at least one no.1 vote.  Their big man is worth at least that.

Since: Jun 14, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:13 pm

The Poll Attacks are back

And why didn't Belmont get any votes?

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