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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: November 14, 2011 3:22 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2011 3:30 pm
By Gary Parrish

NEW YORK -- I'm in Manhattan for Tuesday night's Champions Classic.

But I've still got time for the Poll Attacks.

Here we go ...

Associated Press poll: The first thing I did when the AP poll was released was go straight to Scott Wolf's ballot because the Los Angeles Daily News writer was the focus of the preseason Poll Attacks, and I wanted to see if he learned anything over the past few weeks.

He did not.

Scott still has Kansas ranked third and ahead of North Carolina even though Bill Self called him "nuts" for doing it, and he still has Arizona ranked sixth even though the Wildcats have lost an exhibition and looked average in their first three games, and even though Josiah Turner has been wildly immature and ineffective. Sean Miller actually benched the freshman point guard for Sunday's game against Ball State. And yet Scott still has this team ranked sixth -- one spot ahead of Ohio State and six spots ahead of Syracuse.

It's senseless.

I tried to help him.

But I just can't get through.

Maybe next week.

Another wild ballot belongs to The State's Ron Morris.

He has Michigan State ranked sixth and Vanderbilt ranked eighth and, my God, that's inexplicable. I mean, nobody loves Tom Izzo more than me -- he's my traveling buddy, remember -- and I still believe in Vanderbilt despite Sunday's loss. But Izzo's team is young and probably not even one of the nation's top 20 teams right now, and Vanderbilt's loss to Cleveland State has to be considered. Neither school should be anywhere close to the top 10 right now. That's why Jeff Goodman and I have Vanderbilt ranked 19th and Michigan State unranked.

Another school we have unranked: UCLA.

But Ron has the Bruins ranked 18th.

I'll explain why that's silly in the coaches poll section of the Poll Attacks.

Coaches poll: Last week was the first week of the regular season, and I realize the 31 men who vote in the coaches poll were busy. Hell, I was busy. But I wasn't too busy to realize UCLA lost a home game to unranked Loyola-Marymount.

That's why the Bruins are no longer in the Top 25 (and one).

Makes sense, right?

What makes no sense is that UCLA still got 10 points in the coaches poll.

Maybe, just maybe, putting the Bruins on a ballot could be justified if they lost at the buzzer to a quality and underrated team. But that's not what happened Friday night in Los Angeles. UCLA never led in the second half and fans started leaving with five minutes remaining. The final score was 69-58. And hurting UCLA's cause even more is the fact that Loyola-Marymount backed its big win with a 58-51 loss to Middle Tennessee State, meaning the team that beat UCLA by 11 on Friday lost to MTSU by seven on Sunday.

And yet the Bruins still got 10 points.

That speaks to the brand of UCLA.

Or, more likely, how silly some coach (or two) -- plus Ron Morris -- is somewhere.


Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: November 16, 2011 3:22 pm

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Wow, how can UCLA possibly be THIS bad??

Since: Dec 20, 2009
Posted on: November 16, 2011 2:59 pm

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and by far the number 1 recruiting class in  2012. 

Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: November 16, 2011 12:32 pm

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Since when did exhibition games mean anything? The Wildcats are 3-0 and while they haven't beaten anyone by 40, they can't do much more than be undefeated at this point. Elite 8 last year. Elite recruiting class this year. Until they lose, they deserve their ranking. St. Johns is next which will be a huge test. Then you can start complaining if they lose there and are still ranked sixth.

Since: Aug 17, 2010
Posted on: November 16, 2011 12:53 am

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Well Middle Tennessee State just beat UCLA, so maybe Middle Tennessee State is just that good.....hahahahahahah UCLA is just that bad, i hope this is the last time i have to hear anything about this horrible UCLA team this year.

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:01 pm

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You're dumb. The author did not compare BB polls to those used in football.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:50 pm

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A dumb article.  The writer doesn't realize that nobody pays attention to college basketball regular season rankings and shouldn't compare regular season basketball rankings with football rankings.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:54 pm

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Who cares about the basketball season, half the schools would make the basketball tournament anyway, the season don‘t count at all. Just be in the top 3 of your conference and you would be in the tournament. What’s the number this season 78 teams? It started out with an 8 team tournament, wow did it grow.


Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:40 pm

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TOSU is rated so how can they be overrated?   Boise is over bloated every year as is their one game schedule that they can't seem to win lately...loser...

Since: Dec 31, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:29 pm

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Yeah, because the Boise St. of college basketball is Butler, and they get a chance to prove on the court that they belong. Put Boise in a football playoff and they'd outperform your overrated Buckeyes the same way Butler does.

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:48 pm

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Why is any team from the Pac-12 ranked?  The conference sucks. 

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