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Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Posted on: December 11, 2011 2:12 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2011 3:53 pm

By Jeff Goodman

Mick Cronin's actions needed to be as forceful as his words.

They weren't.

Star big man Yancy Gates, after delivering a right-hand that knocked Xavier's fellow heavyweight to the floor, received a six-game suspension. Cincinnati also suspended Octavius Ellis and Cheikh Mbodj, who stomped on Frease while he was down on the court, for six games -- and Ge'Lawn Guyn for one game.

Gates should have received -- at minimum -- a 10-game penalty, maybe even being tossed from the team for good. Cronin talked a big game after Saturday's brawl, one that was embarrassing for all parties.

"We accept full responsibility and it will be handled," Cronin said. "There is zero excuse for that in basketball. ... The fact is the guys ... represent an institution of higher learning. Xavier has been a great school for years. We're trying to cure cancer at Cincinnati. I go to school at a place where they ... created Benadryl; I think that's more important than who wins a basketball game. And our guys need to have an appreciation that they're there on a full scholarship and they better represent the institution with class and integrity. ... I just told my guys I will meet with my AD and my president and I'm going to decide who is on the team going forward. That's what the University of Cincinnati is about. Period. I've never been this embarrassed."

Cronin talked about how these kids need to appreciate the value of education, how they need to act accordingly -- or they won't ever be allowed to put on a Bearcats uniform.

He had an opportunity to follow through with his strong message in the post-game news conference -- one that was applauded by nearly everyone. (Doyel: Cronin talked the talk)

Then he opted not to follow through on his strong statements, and hit Gates, who did his best Mike Tyson impression when he sent Frease to the canvas, with just six games.

I understand that it was a mistake, one Gates would love to take back. But it's not as though Gates has been the model citizen, either. He's been suspended by Cronin previously -- and the penalty should have been more severe for this transgression.

But winning is more important to Cronin. At least that's what his actions said.

He needs Gates, especially when Big East play rolls around.

Gates will miss games against Wright State, Radford, Arkansas Pine-Bluff, Chicago State, Oklahoma and Pittsburgh.

That's a grand total of one conference game.


Since: Jan 27, 2007
Posted on: December 12, 2011 11:10 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

One thing to keep in mind is, Cronin has to remain on that campus without police protection 24 hours a day.  With Gates being a completely reckless thug, it might be understood between the two of them what Gates is willing to accept without giving Cronin the same thing he gave Frease -- if not worse.  Sounds crazy but I suspect the message was delivered in one way or the other.

Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:53 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

This is what happens when you admit students, who do not have the academic aptitude to justify that admittance, into your University for the sole purpose of playing sports. They don't respect the University, the coach, or college athletics enough to act with any amount of decency. Its just thugs from the street courts all dressed up in college uniforms.

Since: Nov 8, 2011
Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:29 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

After he handed out those suspensions Cronin should have repeated, "I never been so embarrassed."  I'm suprised they didn't get community service .  .  .  

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:15 am
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Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:08 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

I really don't have a horse in this race... but how is Xavier getting a pass here?

#1, why do they even have starters on the floor with 10 seconds to go in a 23-point home blowout?  Take Holloway out and let him get a standing O.  Channel that energy into something positive.  The subs had not been banging against each other all day.  Much less likely to get out of hand.

#2, it was Holloway's big mouth that got everything riled up at the end.  I know his post-game comments were bad, but his conduct started the escalation process.

#3, it was another Xavier player that turned it from words to fight by pushing the Cincy player down.  Had he pulled Holloway away, this does not happen.  Instead, a brawl started and Cincy's players got the better of Xavier's players. 

The Cincy player who stomped the defenseless Xavier player deserves 10 games.  Gates deserves at least 6 games for the sucker punches that went beyond defending himself.

But, for my money, I think Tu Holloway should get 1/2 what Gates gets.  If that's a problem for Xavier, then next time get him out of the game when it is out of hand.  Not just for fights, but for injuries.  Show some coaching class.  The coach showed no class and his team responded accordingly. 

Since: May 3, 2009
Posted on: December 12, 2011 9:20 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

What is lost in the fight is what a poor basketball coach Cronin is.How a A-10 team beats you by 23 plus is more talented and athletic is disturbing because recruiting is supposed to be Cronin's calling card.Having 1 good team every 5 years does not cut it at UC.

As far as the fight goes as usual Cronin blames the refs,media,and fans but conviently leaves himself out.If UC had a real coach like Huggs this incident would have never happened.As usual Cronin talks a big game but never backs it up.Mick is like the little barking dog in the neighborhood always barking and posturing then running away when a cat comes close to him.

Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: December 12, 2011 8:58 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

I was watching the game, at this point it was more of a distraction while I was doing stuff on the computer. The commotion made me take notice and WOW, I have not seen sucha  fight in a long while, I figured there would be suspensions aplenty and possible players getting tossed from their teams. Then I find a seemingly carefully picked out mere 6 games, the first 5 were against 'nobodies" so it seemed like the sixth game against Pitt "had" to be added but no more! What a joke, Cronin talks about taking a tough stand and here we have an already troubled player getting what amounts to a slap on the wrist and his suspension is designed to affect the team in the MOST minimal way possible, absolutely the opposite of what wa said!

Since: Nov 1, 2011
Posted on: December 12, 2011 8:39 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Mick Cronin let Rashad Bishop 2 years ago go after him and left him on the team.Last year Yancy went after a UC asisstant coach and stayed on the team.The players have no respect for him and it showed Saturday its a pattern.

  Cronin's brother and father were in the middle of dust ups the whole game in the stands.Cronin's brother had his foul mouthed twitter account that UC had to force his brother to take down.The local press has buried all the dirty secrets but the UC program is more dysfunctional now than under Huggins

Since: Feb 20, 2008
Posted on: December 12, 2011 8:21 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

I agree completely which is rare.....this only feeds into the thug stereotype I have of the player's cincy has recruited since hugging was there......the university had a great chance to seperate itself from that image and failed!!!!  Gates should be gone for the year in my opinion...what he did was cowardly and to make it worse he was quite proud of himself as his shadow boxing showed....really sad and pathetic.....CRONIN IS ALL TALK!!!  I was one of the people watching press conference and thinking.....good for him!!  he's right......well.....NO BALLS

Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: December 12, 2011 8:09 am

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

All these players represent is an institution based on the money that is critical to the success of the university.  Both Universities earn zero points from the ethical gods and may their inaction result in the failure of their tainted athletic programs.

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