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Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Posted on: December 11, 2011 2:12 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2011 3:53 pm
 


By Jeff Goodman


Mick Cronin's actions needed to be as forceful as his words.

They weren't.

Star big man Yancy Gates, after delivering a right-hand that knocked Xavier's fellow heavyweight to the floor, received a six-game suspension. Cincinnati also suspended Octavius Ellis and Cheikh Mbodj, who stomped on Frease while he was down on the court, for six games -- and Ge'Lawn Guyn for one game.

Gates should have received -- at minimum -- a 10-game penalty, maybe even being tossed from the team for good. Cronin talked a big game after Saturday's brawl, one that was embarrassing for all parties.

"We accept full responsibility and it will be handled," Cronin said. "There is zero excuse for that in basketball. ... The fact is the guys ... represent an institution of higher learning. Xavier has been a great school for years. We're trying to cure cancer at Cincinnati. I go to school at a place where they ... created Benadryl; I think that's more important than who wins a basketball game. And our guys need to have an appreciation that they're there on a full scholarship and they better represent the institution with class and integrity. ... I just told my guys I will meet with my AD and my president and I'm going to decide who is on the team going forward. That's what the University of Cincinnati is about. Period. I've never been this embarrassed."

Cronin talked about how these kids need to appreciate the value of education, how they need to act accordingly -- or they won't ever be allowed to put on a Bearcats uniform.

He had an opportunity to follow through with his strong message in the post-game news conference -- one that was applauded by nearly everyone. (Doyel: Cronin talked the talk)

Then he opted not to follow through on his strong statements, and hit Gates, who did his best Mike Tyson impression when he sent Frease to the canvas, with just six games.

I understand that it was a mistake, one Gates would love to take back. But it's not as though Gates has been the model citizen, either. He's been suspended by Cronin previously -- and the penalty should have been more severe for this transgression.

But winning is more important to Cronin. At least that's what his actions said.

He needs Gates, especially when Big East play rolls around.

Gates will miss games against Wright State, Radford, Arkansas Pine-Bluff, Chicago State, Oklahoma and Pittsburgh.

That's a grand total of one conference game.

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Comments

Since: Jun 28, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:38 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Football player LeGarrette Blount lands a punch, done for the season.
Basketball player lands a punch, suspended 6 games, spanning 3 weeks.
This wasn't even a slap on the wrist.
Shame, Cincinnati.



Since: Apr 22, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:34 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

As a Xavier fan, I agree with the post for the most part.  I don't understand how Tu only gets one game.  Tu is what started this whole mess.  It was his initial left hand of Holloway to Guyn that cleared the benches.  Then his post game comments that "We gangsta".  I am very dissapointed in the action of the players and the punishments handed out by Xavier. 

Tu will never learn if he can continue to act in this manner.  You can't keep enabling this kid.  It was like he is proud to be a "gangsta".

UC could have been more harsh to theirs, but our Xavier players, without a doubt, deserved much, much more.



Since: Nov 16, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:31 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Turns out Mick Cronin is a coward, just like his players.  What else would you expect from Cincinnati?



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:24 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's a disgrace !!

 ***  Are you serious ???   Can NOT believe Coaches Reaction vs His final decision & Penalties !!!  Can NOT believe the Administration of UC & the BE  & the NCAA  Will Allow this Minimal "punishment" ... HELL- Take away their Scholarships & tell them They Then Can Stay & Play ...  See IF that Lights a Fire !!!  If They Can NOT play .. Why would they have Scholarships ???     I'M NOT even Close to Happy with Xaviers Penal;ties Either .... 1 game , 2 games ,etc.. They were Just as Bad  & Their schoo seems as Indifferent to Flagrant BS as UC.. Both Schools Should be Penalized & the Individual Players  Severly Punished for What Should NEVER BE TOLARATED  In Any League or endorsed by NCAA !!!    ABSOLUETLY SHAMEFULL   !!!!       SLAPS on Wrists  Where Sanctions are called for !!!!  SAD !!!!



Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:06 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Kid should be kicked off the team.  



Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:02 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

I can imagine the drinking establishments in Cincinnati were quite lively as well.



Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:02 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Fire Cronin and dismiss Gates. Thats the hardline that should have been taken with the Athletic Department, but we're talking about UC.

Some people might say firing Cronin is too harsh, but he's paid to put a winner on the court. Not only are they not winning on the court, they are losing off of it as well. 

Guys like Jim Tressel are vilified by the press and all over the sports world for not turning in his players that sold their own memorabilia for tattoos while scum like Sandusky, Fine and the like get the benefit of the doubt until real lawsuits kick in. Then guys like Cronin continuing the pitiful display of win at all costs while their guys commit actual crimes like assault.  Where's the equality?  Punishments should fit the crimes. Get em out.



Since: Jul 27, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2011 5:02 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

And our guys need to have an appreciation that they're there on a full scholarship and they better represent the institution with class and integrity. ... I just told my guys I will meet with my AD and my president and I'm going to decide who is on the team going forward. That's what the University of Cincinnati is about. Period. I've never been this embarrassed."
Guess it wasnt that embarrasing after all!
What about X? They are not without guilt! 



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2011 4:42 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

Is this really where our society is at these days when people come in here saying the "trash talking" by Xavier was just as bad as the Punching and Stomping session that Cincy got involved in? Yeah the Xavier players need to be punished maybe one game, and if they threw a punch more. You don't get a free pass decking a guy in the face and stomping him on the ground because he "talked trash." I played sports, I know the amount of trash talking that goes on. Best way to shut them up? Win the game, beat the team. Rivalry games get heated, people run their mouths. If you can't compose yourself enough to not let your fists fly you don't deserve a free education that so many people in this country including myself would love to have. Instead the rest of us have to take loans and figure out ways to pinch every penny to attend college to better ourselves. 



Since: Dec 11, 2011
Posted on: December 11, 2011 4:41 pm
 

Cincinnati's Cronin's words were just that: Words

The mild penalty is not surprising. Cronin and the powers that be talked the talk - but they are not walking the walk. The goons will be back in time for conference play. Had this behavior taken place in any other public place Gates would have been hauled off in handcuffs and be facing criminal charges. As long as universities allow coaches to bring punks like Gates, Holloway, et al onto campus on athletic scholarships this will never stop. Clearly, it's all about money. That is not likely to ever change. Until universities hold themselves to a higher standard this won't change. Coaches like Bob Knight never tolerated this sort of childish, gangster mentality to exist on their teams. Until universities and coaches demand civility and discipline out of their scholarship athletes, college rosters will continue to be populated by ignorant punks like Gates, Holloway, etc. UC had a chance to take the high road and Cronin had a chance to win over the fan base by doing the right thing....and they chose to follow the money. And what may be even more sad is that in February people who attend UC home games will be cheering for Gates. And his behavior and attitude will never change. Yancy Gates will end up being the next Chris Henry. He'll continue to be given second chances he doesn't deserve and will self-destruct before he's 30. As long as people keep paying to watch these ungrateful, uncivilized, ignorant punks play ball the universities will keep running them out there. Shame on them. Shame on us.


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