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Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

Posted on: December 12, 2011 10:52 am
Edited on: December 12, 2011 10:53 am

By Matt Norlander

There could be further fallout from the Xavier-Cincinnati brawl, because now the Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office is going to review the tape.

Yancy Gates, be nervous. Gates is the Cincinnati senior center who coldcocked Xavier center Kenny Frease during the fracas in the closing seconds of Saturday afternoon's Xavier 76-53 win over the Bearcats. Multiple players from each team have been suspended, none more than Gates, who received a six-game punishment for throwing the most vicious, obvious punches in the battle.

WLWT reported the possible charges that could come for players on both teams. These kind of punishments, if any charges are levied, go beyond anything either program/coach/university did Sunday.
Joe Deters issued a release Monday saying, “My office will review this matter to determine whether any criminal charges are appropriate. We will have no further comment until a decision is reached.”
This kind of review is certainly warranted; if Gates did what he did at an on-campus bar instead of in the middle of a game, he'd likely already have charges pressed against him.

"We want to deal with this in a prompt and direct manner, and send the message that we will not tolerate this from those who have the privilege of representing the University of Cincinnati." Those are the words of Cincy AD Whit Babcock.

No tolerance is preached, yet plenty have maligned both universities for going too soft in their punishments. Tu Holloway did not throw a punch, but he is considered the instigator of the melee, and he spoke proudly of the events afterward on Saturday, giving himself, his team and his sport a horrible look. Plenty believe Gates shouldn't even be allowed to play basketball the rest of the season. Cincy coach Mick Cronin debated aloud whether he'd kick anyone off the team following the horrible PR display for the sport Saturday. Turns out, only one Big East game will be missed.

Cincinnati's suspended players will partake in a Monday press conference at 2 p.m. ET. Xavier's coaches and players spoke and addressed the issue during a Sunday press conference.


Since: Oct 15, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 1:05 pm

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

Leave the hockey talk defense out of this....I have seen my share of sucker punches in hockey too, high sticking, chopping, etc.... so Shut that crap up...

I think if the NCAA does not step in a cancel any future games between these two team then they are perpetuating and approving the expectation of a brawl evrytime these two teams meet..

Yeah both teams wwere idiots, there coaches were stupid for letting any of them speak on TV.

I hope the coaches follow up and do what theysay they will do in order to prevent future altercations whether it be this cross town game or anyother game...

Why is it that white people are so quick to call a black basket ball player  a Thug....but they say it is not about race...a littel hypocritical don't yuo think..

I don't hear that thug cry coming out when you are betting your hard earned money on these guys in your office pool.....come march...

Since: Oct 15, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 12:40 pm

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

99 rams....why should Yate be the only one thrown out of the league Frease was in hte middle of a fight with his hands on another player....that is why they call it a brawl...if he had been covering up and trying to get awayfrom the fight then you have a point but FRease was in the middle of it all....

both teams should forfeit the next 6 games and see where that puts them in the March madness race...

Since: Feb 3, 2007
Posted on: December 13, 2011 12:20 pm

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

It is a shame that this game overshadowed a great game between IU and UK.  These players should have gotten more than a 6 game suspension.  Holloway should have gotten 10 just by his idiotic "Gangsta" comments.  What is going on here?  These people are college basketball players.  They are not in the "hood"  anymore.  I understand you can come from troubled  backgrounds, but this is not the way to act.  Gates should get 15 games plus be arrested for assault.  Whoever the stomper was....should get the same as Yates.

Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: December 13, 2011 10:52 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

yates is nothing more than a 2-bit thug that should be in jail for landing a vicious sucker-punch that ripped somebody's face open. at least u couldve been a man about it and throw a punch when the guy is looking! no question yates, at the minimum, should be thrown outa the league. 

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2011 10:23 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

Comparing this situation to a hockey game is just ridiculous. In hockey, fighting is an established part of the game where both parties agree to square off. Much like boxing and MMA, there are rules and a code of conduct when involved in a physical altercation.......Anyone who brings race into this discussion doesn't belong on the internet. Talk about it all you want on your rotary telephone.

Since: Feb 2, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 10:12 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

There is a difference between Pu$#@@! basketball fights who sucker punch people not looking and kick them when they are on the ground along with your 20+ teamates.  Hockey fights are 1 vs. 1 Man to Man with no sucker punches and kicking when they are down. 

These guys wouldn't last 2 sec. with a hockey player.  It takes nerve to face someone 1 on 1.  anyone can sucker punch someone when they are not looking and dance around like a ferry.  If there were more fights in b-ball like hockey, i can guarantee that you wouldn't have as much trash talking and "gangster" wannabees.

Since: Nov 8, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 9:51 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

Jesuits aren't gangsters and they certainly don't "zip em up", as XAVIER'S star player player Tu Holloway said. Father Gram can not be happy with his "Gangster" basketball team. Did anyone hear the post-game comments from the Xavier players? WOW!!!

Since: Jan 8, 2009
Posted on: December 13, 2011 9:04 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

Jesse James, you are an idiot to make the racist claim.  Behavior like this should never be tolerated on any level of sports.  And as far as I am concerned, Hockey shoulddo more to eliminate the brawls.  How about the sports world get in touch with the outside world.

Since: Nov 11, 2010
Posted on: December 13, 2011 8:53 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

GATES is a coward and is most definitely a THUG.  Did anyone hear how he barely has a grasp of the english language.  How did this guy get into a Univ such as Cincy.

GATES should be suspended for the remainder of the season.  He SUCKER PUNCHED a guy and then danced around like he was Muhammad Ali!  What a clueless IDIOT!  This guy only is remorseful because he saw his stock plummet for next year's NBA draft.

If Cincy can't take the trash talk then do something about it on the court such as actually winning the game.

Holloway is a idiot as well.  He's a trash-talking PUNK.  None of these guys are "gangsters."  They wouldn't last 5 minutes against real gangsters such as the Bloods and Crips, The Latin Kings,  MS-13...LOL!

Anyone and I mean anyone who thinks GATES shouldn't be suspended for a year needs to get a quick psychological review of themselves!

Throw this GATES punk out of basketball.  I'd like to see him fight Freese one and one without sucking punching him...

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2011 8:45 am

Further punishment could await X/Cincy brawlers

In my opinion, we willl find out what is more important to these universities, the gangster life that makes there basketball program better or respectability.  There is no room for low class gangsters anywhere on the national stage of sports.  They all should be kicked off the team and out of school.  They can go and live there gangster life in prison where they belong.

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