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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: January 23, 2012 4:07 pm
Edited on: January 23, 2012 4:10 pm
By Gary Parrish

The Missouri beat writer is voting Missouri fourth.

I don't like it because it's wrong.

But I kinda like it because it's ballsy.

Either way, I wrote about it (and other things) in the Poll Attacks.

(Don't believe me, keep reading.)

Associated Press poll: Jeff Goodman and I ranked Missouri second in the Top 25 (and one). I believe that's right where the Tigers belong based on their body of work, but I can understand somebody putting Kentucky, Ohio State and/or Syracuse ahead of them. It would be wrong, in my opinion. But a reasonable argument could be made. So I'm not gonna freak out about the five AP voters who have Missouri ranked fourth this week. I just think it's funny that one of them is Steve Walentik from the Columbia Daily Tribune.

Yes, Steve covers Missouri in Columbia.

And he's one of the few ranking the Tigers too low.

But I kinda dig it because I know Steve must be catching hell -- especially since he has Big 12 rival Kansas ranked one spot ahead of Missouri despite the fact that KU has three losses (including a loss to unranked Davidson) while Missouri has just one loss (at Kansas State) and is coming off a road win (at Baylor) that's better than any road win the Jayhawks possess. I mean, how strong-willed do you have to be to (incorrectly) rank the team you cover lower than 60 of the other 65 AP voters? That takes some balls.

So I hereby declare Steve Walentik an anti-homer.

He could make the All Anti-Homer Beat Writer Team that'll be unveiled in March.

Anyway ...

Norm Wood screwed up pretty good this week.

He writes for a newspaper in Virginia.

He has Wisconsin ranked 10th and Marquette unranked, which is stupid for three reasons.
  1. Wisconsin shouldn't be ranked 10th anywhere.
  2. Marquette shouldn't unranked anywhere.
  3. Wisconsin shouldn't be ranked ahead of Marquette
Marquette is ahead of Wisconsin in the AP poll, the Coaches poll and the Top 25 (and one) because though Marquette and Wisconsin have similar bodies of work -- both have one win over a currently ranked team -- Marquette actually has a win at Wisconsin. That's got to count for something. But Norm has Wisconsin ranked 10th and Marquette unranked, and I bet that doesn't make sense to the folks in Milwaukee.

Or the folks in Moraga.

My guess is they're just as confused about Norm's decision to put Wisconsin so far ahead of Marquette as they are about his decision to put Gonzaga seven spots ahead of their Saint Mary's Gaels. In case you haven't been following the WCC, here's what you need to know: SMC and Gonzaga -- like Wisconsin and Marquette -- have similar bodies of work, but SMC owns an 83-62 win over Gonzaga.

Again, that's got to count for something.

I'm not saying Saint Mary's is clearly better than Gonzaga.

I'm just saying you can't have Gonzaga ranked seven spots ahead of Saint Mary's right now.

I mean, you can.

I guess.

But look at what happens when you do it.

Coaches poll: Last week was a prove-it week for New Mexico.

Some folks were already ranking the Lobos.

Others -- like us -- were not.

But what we all agreed on last Monday was that New Mexico would have a chance to prove or disprove it belongs because the Lobos had upcoming games against nationally ranked San Diego State (at home) and UNLV (on the road), and I had basically decided that a split would be enough to launch Steve Alford's team into the Top 25 (and one).

But the Lobos lost both games.

They lost 75-70 at home to San Diego State and 80-63 on the road at UNLV.

So why is New Mexico still getting votes in the coaches poll?

Answer: I don't kow.

New Mexico is 15-4 with zero wins over schools receiving votes in either major poll and two losses to teams (New Mexico State and Santa Clara) that aren't receiving votes. In other words, the Lobos are good ... but they're good with an extremely thin resume. They had two chances to record a notable win last week, but they couldn't do it. And that's why they shouldn't be on anybody's ballot until they show that they can.

Since: Jan 15, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 11:23 pm

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The only poll I look at is the coaches poll.  The media (AP) is a bunch of morons.  I don't care what they think.

Since: Mar 14, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:33 pm

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Your lucky that the Missouri Tigers are even that high. Just a few loses and they could be out of the top 5 really quick
They already lost to Kansas State. How sad is that. They are lucky to see the bright side of the #2 ranking. Because if you look at there schedule they really haven't played anybody that was any good

Unlike the Kansas Jayhawks who played Ohio State Kentucky Duke Baylor  and they are 2-2 vs top 5 teams.
For Missouri. They only played Baylor and they are 1-0.

So if i wanted to complain about some bogus lunchmeat standings that dont mean nothing at all. I would have Kansas at #2 and Missouri not even ranked.
But i am the type of person that dont complain about stupidity or ignorance because onlything it does is make your IQ Level go so far down that it catches up with your Stupidity. 

Since: Jan 23, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:09 pm

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so one would have to have a unique poll to comment?  that's un-American!

Since: Apr 9, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:52 pm

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But i am the type of person that dont complain about stupidity or ignorance
Because that would be like looking in the mirror............scary!

Since: Jan 23, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:15 pm

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Who are these idiots that are ranking the teams.Ihave been a Carolia fan forever ,but I dont beleive they should be ranked ahead of Florida State or in the top 20 for that matter.

Since: Jan 23, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:07 pm

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typical gayhawk fan garbage

Since: Mar 16, 2009
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:50 pm

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So why is New Mexico still getting votes in the coaches poll?

I'll tell you why; the coaches should NOT be voting at all. They each have a vested interest especially when it comes to their own conference AND they really DO NOT care! Simple and easy.

Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:42 pm

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Your an idiot, Cenation-HLR! And thanks for stating the obvious(if they lose a few they will find themselves quickly out of the top 5). NO SHIT, just like every other team. They have beat Illinois, California, Iowa St. and Baylor all of which are in the top 50 in the KenPom. I think you might be delusional. If you didn't know, Kstate is the 3 hardest place to play in a conference with the best home court advantage in the nation. So at what point does one team find it lucky to be ahead of a KU team whose only away wins are against Texas, texas tech, oklahoma and North Dakota? real nice considering not one of them is in the top 50 in the RPI!

Since: Jul 28, 2011
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:06 pm
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Since: Feb 9, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 6:04 pm

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As a Seminole, I will freely admit that we are not as good as the last 10 days results, but I at least thought we would be ranked after blowing out UNC and beating Duke at home....I guess we can wait another week.

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