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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: January 30, 2012 3:29 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 3:46 pm
 
By Gary Parrish

Wisconsin should be on everybody's ballot.

Connecticut shouldn't be on anybody's ballot.

I'll explain why in great detail in this edition of the Poll Attacks.

Associated Press poll: Three voters aren't including Wisconsin on their ballots.

That makes no sense considering Wisconsin is ...
  • 17-5 overall, 6-3 in the Big Ten.
  • on a five-game winning streak.
  • the owner of wins over No. 11 UNLV and No. 20 Indiana.
  • the owner of just one loss to a currently unranked team.
  • ranked No. 2 at KenPom.com with a defense that ranks second nationally.

I seriously can't think of any way to justify not having Wisconsin on a Top 25 ballot.

So who are the guilty parties?

One of them Jack Bogaczyk. He didn't rank Wisconsin but he did rank Louisville -- a school that has one more loss to a currently unranked team than Wisconsin has and two fewer wins (i.e., zero total) over a currently ranked team than Wisconsin possesses. Another one of them is Steve Wiseman. He didn't rank Wisconsin but he did rank Harvard -- a school that has one more loss to a currently unranked team than Wisconsin has and one fewer win over a currently ranked team than Wisconsin possesses. And the third one is Nick Jezierny. He didn't rank Wisconsin but he did rank Connecticut ... and I'm about to explain just how silly Nick is for doing that.

Coaches poll: You know how many losses Connecticut has to currently unranked teams? Six. You know how many wins Connecticut has over currently ranked teams? Two. And the Huskies have lost three straight and five of their past seven. And yet somehow Jim Calhoun's team is still getting 21 points in the coaches poll (and two points in the AP poll thanks to my buddy Nick, who has UConn 24th on his ballot).

My question: How could anybody vote for Connecticut right now?

I mean, I like the roster, too.

But the team is undeniably average.

The Huskies have played 20 games and accomplished very little. They've lost to UCF on a neutral, to Seton Hall, Rutgers and Tennessee on the road, and to Cincinnati and Notre Dame at home, and none of those schools are in the latest coaches poll. The best wins are over No. 23 Harvard, No. 24 Florida State and unranked West Virginia, and two of those wins (FSU and Harvard) occurred ages ago. So, again, how could anybody vote for Connecticut right now? The only explanation is that a handful of coaches must've accidentally submitted ballots from last season. Either that or a handful of coaches are dumb or careless or both. And I'm actually surprised that Nick is the one writer voting for UConn because he's a knowledgeable lad. So I felt compelled to ask for an explanation. He responded with this: "I'm giving UConn [the] benefit of the doubt. I think no one wants to see them in March, but I can see why you want to attack me."

I was somewhat OK with that response because Nick basically acknowledged that his UConn vote isn't based on actual results of games. He just assumes the Huskies will be good eventually, and that's good enough for him. Granted, that's not how I believe somebody should be voting in late January. But whatever. At least Nick knows UConn doesn't have a body of work that's worthy of a Top 25 vote. That's all I wanted him to realize.

But he couldn't stop there.

My man just had to Tweet again.

"And I still think it would be a better use of your time to write about one of 340 men's bball teams than analyze ballots," Nick typed, to which I responded: "And I think it would be a better use of your time to watch Connecticut."
Comments

Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2012 6:38 pm
 

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Blah, Blah, Blah.

UW opponents always claim that.

The reason UW never gets foul calls is simple fundamentals:

They don't slap the arms of players with the ball, unlike most defenders

They do push with the chest, but it's the hand slaps that always get the call.

Teach a player to stop doing that, and he will have few fouls to his name.



Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 6:34 pm
 

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I'll admit that this is not one of the better Badger teams, recently, but to say that they get handed wins at home every year is absolute BS.



Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 6:29 pm
 

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Great work Gary. It is nice to see someone actually back up their reasoning, alot of us respect that. Don't see that too often anymore!



Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 6:12 pm
 

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Badgers always seem to make the Sweet 16.... thats not bad! The Hoosiers, lets see.. When was the last time they made it that far??
 Hoosiers won't make it that far this year either.  Creen is a great rucruiter but his game coaching decisions have never been the best & his teams are never very good away from home. 



Since: Dec 22, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 5:56 pm
 

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Wisconsin was hitting a lot in that game too, it just happened to usually be the forearms and backs of the Indiana players.  Gotta be one of the worst reffed games of the season.



Since: Nov 16, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2012 5:44 pm
 

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I hope Nick is trying to be funny with this tweet, cause if I wanted to read about random teams every monday in some pointless ramble, I can check out ANY sports site and find articles on teams and their current whathaveyou's. Poll attacks is the bomb! A little accountability is always needed when ranking ball teams. Though I do agree rankings are just something to keep people distracted between games. One last thing, Gary has just let this one go, but I haven't! Murray St needs to stop moving up this thing. They ARE a top 25, no doubt, but let's get this under control. Beating RPI 200+ teams is fine, but not worth moving to a top 10 spot. Think about it...objectivally looking at it, the polls are telling me that they're are only 8/9 teams in the NCAA that are better than Murray St. Again, they're REALLY GOOD, but so is Kansas St. and Michigain St. and UNLV. I'm done now.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 5:38 pm
 

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Yeah, and Indiana was hitting everything that game.



Since: Apr 2, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2012 5:01 pm
 

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People are really dumb.  Nick stating Gary shouldn't attack the polls...I love the attacks since they are more than valid.
And then action83 whining about Wisconsin right after they completely handled his hoosiers.  Dude, your team scored 50 then went and scored triple digits.  They got BEAT hands down.  If UW could have hit some WIDE OPEN shots, it would have been an 18 pt win.  Wake up homer.
So regardless of what happens in March, they are more than worth of top 20 ranking right now.
And fyi, since Bo Ryan has coached UW, they have never been worse than 4th in the Big 10.  It's not because of games being "handed" to them.  Oh, and look at their road record this year. 


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Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 4:58 pm
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Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2012 4:40 pm
 

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I agree with not ranking wiscy.  It's no wonder they hardly ever lose at home.  They screw everybody that plays there.  It happens every year, wiscy will finish in the top 5 of the Big Ten and they won't do crap in March.  They will have an early exit in the tourney and everybody will wonder why?  Because they have games handed to them at home, and that hurts them later in the season. 


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