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Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

Posted on: February 21, 2012 2:10 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2012 12:45 pm
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John Wooden's 1973 UCLA team, above, and his '68 squad were in the top three of every ballot. (AP)

By Gary Parrish


In March, the CBS Sports Network will air one big show in four parts, on two nights, on the best 16 college basketball teams in history.

They asked me to submit a ballot.

They asked Jeff Borzello, Jeff Goodman and Matt Norlander to do the same.

After a whole lot research and subsequent debate on Twitter, we finally filed our lists. Lots of you asked to see them. We decided to let you. So take a look and tell us what you think. And don't forget the the best team in this sport doesn't always win the national championship because that fact of life is reflected in our ballots. Teams in italics did not win national titles.

Kentucky in 1995-96 was absolutely ridiculous. (AP)
----- Gary Parrish's Ballot -----
  1. 1968 UCLA
  2. 1996 Kentucky
  3. 1973 UCLA
  4. 1982 North Carolina
  5. 1976 Indiana
  6. 2008 Kansas
  7. 2009 North Carolina
  8. 1991 UNLV
  9. 1999 Duke
  10. 1992 Duke
  11. 2005 North Carolina
  12. 2007 Florida
  13. 1956 San Francisco
  14. 1957 North Carolina
  15. 1974 North Carolina State
  16. 2000 Cincinnati

----- Jeff Goodman's Ballot -----

  1. 1968 UCLA
  2. 1973 UCLA
  3. 1976 Indiana
  4. 1956 San Francisco
  5. 1982 North Carolina
  6. 1996 Kentucky
  7. 1992 Duke
  8. 1990 UNLV
  9. 1974 North Carolina State
  10. 1984 Georgetown
  11. 1979 Michigan State
  12. 1960 Ohio State
  13. 1967 UCLA
  14. 2007 Florida
  15. 2005 North Carolina
  16. 2009 North Carolina
The longer we go without a team going buzzer to buzzer without a loss, the better 1975-76 Indiana looks for being the last team to accomplish the feat. (AP)
----- Jeff Borzello's Ballot -----
  1. 1968 UCLA
  2. 1973 UCLA
  3. 1976 Indiana
  4. 1956 San Francisco
  5. 1996 Kentucky
  6. 1972 UCLA
  7. 1991 UNLV
  8. 1982 North Carolina
  9. 1992 Duke
  10. 1974 North Carolina State
  11. 1990 UNLV
  12. 1967 UCLA
  13. 1954 Kentucky
  14. 1957 North Carolina
  15. 1984 Georgetown
  16. 1960 Ohio State

----- Matt Norlander's Ballot -----

  1. 1973 UCLA
  2. 1996 Kentucky
  3. 1968 UCLA
  4. 1976 Indiana
  5. 1982 North Carolina
  6. 1956 San Francisco
  7. 1992 Duke
  8. 2005 North Carolina
  9. 1974 N.C. State
  10. 1957 North Carolina
  11. 1991 UNLV
  12. 2001 Duke
  13. 2007 Florida
  14. 1984 Georgetown
  15. 1999 Duke
  16. 2008 Kansas

CBS Sports Network will be celebrating the 16 greatest college basketball teams of all time in the upcoming, four-part series, "16." Our CBS Sports panel of experts has voted, and on March 19 and 20, you'll be able to see which teams make up our list. You can help us celebrate your favorite team by sending us your tweets -- use the hashtag #CBS16 -- or leave your comments below. Then, look for your content as we'll work to incorporate the best submissions into the series.

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Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:39 pm
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

My ballot, which only goes back to 1985 when the tournament went to 64 schools (and my memory basically starts)

1. UNLV '91
2. Kentucky '96
3. Connecticut '99
4. Georgetown '85
5. Conecticut '04
6. UNLV '90
7. Arkansas '94
8. North Carolina '05
9. Cincinnati '00
10. Duke '92
11. Syracuse '10
12. Kansas '08 
13. Massachusetts '96
14. Arizona '97
15. Florida '07
16. North Carolina '09 



Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:27 pm
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

2008 Kansas beat 2008 UNC by 18 points in the Final Four.  18 points!  The only player they lost of any consequence was Marcus Ginyard, so KU was essentially playing a slightly less experienced version of the 2009 team.  UNC was dismantled.  They were a 2 loss team at the time with the #8 SOS. 

Memphis was one of the more loaded teams in the last many years with D-Rose.  They beat UT, Mich St., and UCLA in the tournament by significant margins.  They had 1 loss all season prior to playing KU (granted #64 SOS).  For people who want to use Davidson as a reason why Memphis was a better team, Memphis beat Mississippi State by 3 in the second round.  Narrow escapes happen to many champions.

KU lost 3 total games with the #10 SOS and beat two of those teams in rematches (only faced OSU once).  Davidson did give KU trouble, but Steph Curry was a future NBA star.  KU was #1 overall in defensive efficiency per possession, and #2 in offenseive efficiency per possession.  The 2008 team had the highest Pythagorean rating in the history of the Kenpom.com efficiency stats (since 2003).  They shot 39.7% from 3, and 55.4% from 2 as a team.  It was a great team and is certainly worthy of consideration.  If we include teams that did not win a championship, that opens up a lot of amazing teams from all over the country, but among KU's championship teams, this may be the best one.



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2012 12:15 pm
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

"Didn't pics of a few of the players surface with them sitting in a hot tub with a known 'fixer'."

That pic was one or two years old by the time Maxon released it to the press. Hunt was the only player in that pic, on the 91 team. Hunt, (in the pic) had a great game that night and was keeping us in it. They did not throw that game. They were over confident and Duke was better then they were the year before. If you want to talk fix, 2 of Greg Anthony's fouls were bogus. If he did not foul out, the end would have been different.



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2012 12:12 pm
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

"Didn't pics of a few of the players surface with them sitting in a hot tub with a known 'fixer'."

That pic was one or two years old by the time Maxon released it to the press. Hunt was the only player in that pic, on the 91 team. Hunt, (in the pic) had a great game that night and was keeping us in it. They did not throw that game. They were over confident and Duke was better then they were the year before. If you want to talk fix, 2 of Greg Anthony's fouls were bogus. If he did not foul out, the end would have been different. 



Since: Nov 19, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 10:16 am
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

Unlike most "fans" I had the privelage to watch these teams dating back to the mid-sixties. The only teams that even belong in the conversation are the "68" and "73" UCLA teams and the 1976 Indiana team. The others are good but if you saw those other teams in person, it would become apparent. Of all the UK teams I saw over the years, both the "69" and "78" teams were better than the "96" team. Had it not been for the devastating injury to Scott May, the "75" Indiana team would have to be in that conversation too. Numbers of professional players doesn't really play into it. As for this years UK team, it is unfortunate there aren't very many teams out there to test them. IU has an "ok" team but they beat this years UK team. While some look at that game as a fluke, you have to remember UK was dominated for most of the 2nd half with only the incompetance of Verdell Jones allowing them to get back in it. It is too bad the SEC is so weak this year because it could have given this years team a chance to prove themselves. It is even sadder that key members of this years UK team will leave for the NBA when if they stayed together might actually put together a truly "GREAT" team.



Since: Dec 29, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 8:41 am
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

Duke and their coach have been cheating for years, I would not be surprised if that were the case. Coach is the second best cheater in college basketball right behind Wooden. I read an interesting story about Kareem all set to go to marquette and all of the sudden he signs with UCLA, his family gets a new car, and they are able to move to a middle class neighborhood inside of a month. You know, like Maggette.



Since: Feb 9, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 8:09 am
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

UNLV threw their game against duke...the fix was in.  Didn't pics of a few of the players surface with them sitting in a hot tub with a known 'fixer'.




Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2012 2:03 am
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

1996 Kentucky was a beast, just watch on youtube Kentucky 1996 team put 86 points on LSU @LSU


granted you could argue less teams knew how to defeat a press with superior dribblers at all 5 positions and teams were not emphasizing the 3 pt shot yet like Pitino and Coach K were at that time.


None the less 1996 kentucky had eventual 9 Pros with many long careers, and were a solid unit.  Beat teams silly.

If this 2012 Kentucky team goes on to win it all with one loss, they have have to be in the top 10 some where.

But otherwise the only teams possibly better than the 1996 Cats were a UCLA team (but before 3pt error so hard to compare) or the UNLV early 90s team (again hard to compare really)      
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Since: Nov 16, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 12:49 am
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

I'm a Carolina fan so I'm biased, but.......

I think the 2009 Carolina team should be ranked a bit higher on everyone's list. I've been watching college basketball for over 25 years and I can't remember another team that was that dominant. They stumbled a bit during the regular season, but they peaked at the right time. They completely destroyed every team they played in the tournament. Once they got hot there was never any question that they would win it all. After that several players went to the NBA and last I checked were doing alright for themselves. They really had it all - dominant, record breaking big man, lightning fast point guard, hot three point shooters, role players that clamped down on defense and did the behind the scenes work, etc. I think there's a compelling argument to be made for them being one of the top 10, maybe even top 5 teams of all time.

As for teams that didn't win it all, the 1984 Heels were pretty darn impressive.



Since: Apr 26, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 11:39 pm
 

Our ballots for the top 16 teams of all time

You guys are such ACC homers it's sickening.  You might want to consider some of the teams from earlier eras but of course that would mean acknowledging Kentucky is the premiere program in NCAA basketball history.  Undefeated in 1954.  Cheated out of their title by the NCAA.  But you slober all over the biggest cheater in the history of sports, John Wooden.  Sam Gilbert was the sugar daddy of that team and the players were extremely well paid.  Just ask them.  You overlook the UK team that won the NCAA and then went on to win the Olympics.  Yeah they don't count.  The idea that all those Duke and UNC teams were better is laughable.  I guess if they pay you enough you'll say whatever they want.  I'm calling "foul" on you because this smells "foul".  Something's rotten at the Constant BS network as usual.


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