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Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Posted on: March 4, 2012 8:49 pm
 
With Cal, Arizona and Washington all losing this weekend, the Pac-12 is in at-large trouble. (US Presswire)

By Jeff Borzello

The mediocrity of the Pac-12 has been a running joke in the college basketball world this season, but this weekend took it to a new level.

Washington lost to UCLA, but still won the outright regular-season championship after California lost to Stanford on Sunday evening. Arizona, which had seen its at-large hopes get better and better recently, lost to Arizona State. The only team that helped its Selection Sunday chances was Oregon, which put a whooping on Utah.

The chances that the Pac-12 was only going to get one bid to the NCAA tournament seemed pretty low prior to the weekend, but now it’s not a far-fetched idea. To be honest, no one should feel remotely comfortable about its at-large chances heading into the conference tournament.

Let’s look at the resumes, in the correct pecking order.

California: The Golden Bears clearly have the best at-large resume of the quartet, and also went 3-0 against Oregon and Washington. The computer profile is pretty solid, and they are 6-5 against the top 100. On the other side, they have three sub-100 losses and didn’t finish with a share of the league title. The non-conference profile is also mediocre, as the best win outside of the Pac-12 was over Weber State. They probably felt safe for much of the season, but there’s still work to be done.

Washington: The Huskies don’t have a great profile, but they nonetheless won the outright regular-season championship, which will be a great bargaining chip on Selection Sunday. They are only 1-6 against the top 50 and 3-8 against the top 100. The only bad loss was Saturday’s defeat at the hands of UCLA. Overall, the Huskies did not beat a single NCAA tournament team, as the best non-league wins are over UC-Santa Barbara and Georgia State. Those are their only two non-conference wins over teams ranked in the top 200 of the RPI.

Oregon: The Ducks have slowly but surely played themselves into at-large contention over the past month, winning 11 of their last 14 games. Moreover, they thumped Washington by 25 points in early February. The RPI has moved into the top 50, as well. Now, for the bad. 19 of their 22 wins are over teams ranked outside the top 100, and they are 0-5 vs. the top 50. There’s one sub-100 loss, a home defeat to Oregon State. The non-conference profile is barren, with the best wins coming over Nebraska and UTEP. The thing that complicates their profile is Devoe Joseph, who missed the first six games of the season.

Arizona: The Wildcats are essentially finished when it comes to an at-large bid, after their terrible loss at Arizona State. It dropped them to fourth in the Pac-12, and is a sub-250 loss. The computer profile is mediocre, and 17 of their 21 wins came from outside the top 100. There is a road win at California on the ledger, but that won’t carry them to a bid. Arizona now needs to win the Pac-12 tournament if it wants a bid.

Can the Pac-12 really only get one bid? If California wins the tournament, it’s possible.

Comments

Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 5:01 pm
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Just like in football, the Pac-12 is consistently a solid conference top to bottom, which makes for an interesting season full of upsets.  The probem this year, like every season, is that all the toughest non-conference games are played at the beginning of the season and don't provide a baramoter for the true skill of each team come tourney time.  For example, The Huskies lost some close games at the beginning, but have one of the youngest teams in the county.  The Pac-12 is always ranked lower in the beginning due to East Coast bias and therefore can't make up ground during the conference schedule.  The Huskies lost two last-second games to Top 50 teams, including a Big East Powerhouse Marquette- clearly the Huskies can hang with the big dogs and they are a better team now.  If Marquette doesn't hit a game winning shot, this discussion doesn't exist because no way can the Big East claim they don't belong.  It's just funny how this exact conversation happens every year in respect to the Pac-10/12.  Last year the Huskies only got invited because they won the Pac-12 tourney and then they made a run and almost beat NC.  The year before, they said that they didn't belong and then the Huskies and Arizona both advanced to the sweet 16 beating supposedly better Big East teams along the way.  This happens every year and when the two Pac 12 teams get in and make a run again this year, it will get swept under the rug the same.  Next year I'm sure they'll be saying the same thing at the beginning of the season.  If more than one team doesn't go, then it's a shame for the whole country because they wont get to see players like Wroten, Ross, and Guitierez play in the national spotlight. 



Since: Jan 30, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 12:41 pm
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

The Pac-12 has not had a team in the AP Top 25 poll since November.

The Pac-12 has a 1-29 record in nonconference games against teams ranked in the top 50 of Ratings Percentage Index (RPI) computer rankings.

Pac-12 conference RPI ranking of 10 - behind Mountain West, A-10, Missouri Valley, and C-USA

"The Pac-12 men's basketball tournament begins Wednesday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, capping perhaps the league's worst regular-season showing in a quarter century." - San Jose Mercury News (East Coast bias, I'm sure)

"PAC-12 BASKETBALL ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION: Beat writers' views of conference? It stinks!" - LA Daily News (this from the Pac-12 beat writers, who are obviously biased to the East)

Pac-12 - 1 team in Kenpom top 40 - Big East=8, Big 10=6, Big 12=6, SEC=4, ACC=5, even the Missouri Valley and Moutain West have 2.  Belmont from the powerhouse Atlantic Sun is rated higher than any Pac-12 team.

Pac-12 in '12 sucks.  Acknowledge. Move on.




Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: March 7, 2012 5:01 am
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Pac 12 should be a multii bid league because it is the all time top basketball conference. Half our teams can claim men's national titles in division 1 basketball. UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Utah, and another that didn't win a title (Oregon State) is top 20 all time in wins.
 Big east and acc and Big 10 have been hot lately, but all time none hold a candle to the Pac. UCLA by itself has more national titles than any other conference.
So the talent we bring in every year is still the best. But because we had more freshman and soph than any other conference by far,w e got beat up early, but by this point in the year we have four teams that would make the sweet 16. Pac 12 should always be a multi bid league because talent wise we are above the rest and when that talent matures we are dangerous.
Last year the Pac 12 only sent 4 in a very down year, and 3 advanced!! The Big east sent 8 and like 2 advanced!!! See even in our all time down year we are a good conference.
Yay for the cute big east and your cute league that has mattered since the mid 80's thanks to Georgetown and Nova. But our league has ALWAYS MATTERED. 
Holla back at us when half your league has national titles and when one of your teams win the title for a solid decade straight!!!
That is to all you east coast haters!!!!
WEST COAST!!!
OUR B League out west-THE Mountain west is about to wreck you guys in the tourney. and our c leauge the wcc.
I didnt realize "championships" from 110 years ago really mattered.

You're just in denial and simply an idiot.  



Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:43 am
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Yous guys east coast football teams are a running joke out west and down south and in the midwest Mr. Borzello.



Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:40 am
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Here I will talk in east coast language so yous guys can understand what I'm Saying.

Fuggeddabpouddit vinny, the Pac 12 will waste yous guys, capishe, yo, dun, son.  timberland bots, bada bing, schmuck 



Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: March 7, 2012 2:36 am
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Pac 12 should be a multii bid league because it is the all time top basketball conference. Half our teams can claim men's national titles in division 1 basketball. UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Utah, and another that didn't win a title (Oregon State) is top 20 all time in wins.
 Big east and acc and Big 10 have been hot lately, but all time none hold a candle to the Pac. UCLA by itself has more national titles than any other conference.
So the talent we bring in every year is still the best. But because we had more freshman and soph than any other conference by far,w e got beat up early, but by this point in the year we have four teams that would make the sweet 16. Pac 12 should always be a multi bid league because talent wise we are above the rest and when that talent matures we are dangerous.
Last year the Pac 12 only sent 4 in a very down year, and 3 advanced!! The Big east sent 8 and like 2 advanced!!! See even in our all time down year we are a good conference.
Yay for the cute big east and your cute league that has mattered since the mid 80's thanks to Georgetown and Nova. But our league has ALWAYS MATTERED.
Holla back at us when half your league has national titles and when one of your teams win the title for a solid decade straight!!!
That is to all you east coast haters!!!!
WEST COAST!!!
OUR B League out west-THE Mountain west is about to wreck you guys in the tourney. and our c leauge the wcc. 



Since: Mar 23, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:35 pm
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

I'm still waiting for the pro-PAC 12 faction to offer some facts in support of their claims that the PAC 12 should be a multi-bid league.  And, no, calling people "biased" or "hacks" are not such facts. 



Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:16 pm
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

Alright, so we can all agree that the Pac-12 in general sucks outside of the homer, in denial Pac-12 fans? 



Since: Mar 4, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:28 pm
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

That was possibly the worst bragging I've ever seen. "Remember that one time we lost by only a little?" Honestly?



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:06 am
 

Pac-12 a one-bid league? It's possible

This conference looks like a bunch of LSU's, and we are not getting in either.  Don't you have to beat somebody/anybody to get into the dance?  When you play over 30 games and do not have a single quality win, you need to stay home.  It really does not matter what conference you belong to. 


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