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Penn State Scandal - a view

Posted on: November 10, 2011 11:44 am
Edited on: November 30, 2011 9:34 am
I believe that the Board of Trustees' decision to remove Joe Paterno, along with the President of Penn State is for the best. There is no way for the school nor the victims and their families to begin the recovery process until all people who were in key leadership positions when the worst scandle in Penn State's history occurred are gone.

The victims and their families need this in order to move forward. Regardless if he did or did not do the right thing, he would always symbolize the system that failed them. The Board of Trustees did the right thing and the deliberative process was appropiate instead of the knee jerk reaction a lot of people were calling for.

This should be about the victims and how to prevent the institutions including the University, the police and the District Attorney's office from failing in such a systemic way in the future. That process cannot begin to happen until the removal of those people who would serve as a lightning rod for mindless mob hysteria instead of effective action.

For those that are quick to condemn Joe Paterno. Sally Jenkins wrote an article that should serve as a warning to us all. We may have lifelong friends who we believe would never do something heinous and would tend to defend them if accused - at the end of the day how well do we really know our family, friends and acquaintances:

Right now, I am giving Joe Pa the benefit of the doubt and do not believe he knew the gruesome details of the shower incident. However, if Mike McQueary did inform Joe Paterno of the specifics of seeing Sandusky raping the boy then Joe Paterno was wrong in not telling McQueary to contact the police and really merits the disgust that so many people that are quick to judge have been meting out. Mike McQueary should step down as an assistant coach of the team. The interim head coach Tom Bradley has a tough job. Perhaps Penn State should even consider cancelling the rest of the season. Not sure about that, but removing Joe Paterno was a step in the right direction as much as it pains me to say that.

There is much more to this sordid story that people are missing because of the attention given to the disposition of Joe Paterno's legacy at Penn State. There is the District Attorney that declined to prosecute Jerry Sandusky back in 1998 when the police and the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare became aware of Sandusky's transgressions. There was another incident involving Sandusky and a young boy in a shower witnessed by a janitor at Penn State that occurred in 2000. Sandusky founded the organization intended to help troubled youth back in 1977 - there are likely many more victims that have never received counseling to help them cope with what they have suffered. Much more has to be learned, many do not want to think about it - and would like this to go away - but we owe it to the victims to give this whole sordid story the light of day.

Finally, a note to my personal stalker - you know who you are. If you decide to engage in your silly game, appropiate action will be taken. Hopefully I am wrong and you no longer read all of my posts and are truly gone but figure an advance warning is only fair.

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Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: February 25, 2012 9:57 am

Penn State Scandal - a view

  Info I thought you might want to read.

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 4:13 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

The saga continues with a number of people still focusing on Joe Paterno as a culprit. On the Late Night Underground last night, I think it was Skydog who opined that Joe Paterno was a good man and was being overly attacked by many who really don't know the whole story. Skydog went on to say that he wished that all those people who were so negative just didn't criticize but did something constructive to help the victims - get involved - instead of just throwing words at a good man now in his grave.

Here is a post from another person that was responding to some other people who likes to throw words. I liked it so will post it here:


Buckshave7 is a latent PSU fan

February 14, 2012 1:41 pm
I think it is sick and exemplifies the disgusting PSU culture that JoePaterno instilled that PSU fans do not put any blame on anyone other than Sandusky.

This is where you are dead on wrong. PSU fans (and Paterno supporters) spread the blame around to where it belongs. Sandusky obviously carries the most blame, after all, he committed the crimes.

Next in line is McQueary. He is the one who witnessed the 2002 incident and left the building. He did not immediately call the police as he should have, he waited until the next day to tell JoePa and then by his own admission, didn't tell JoePa exactly what he saw. When he reported the incident to JoePa, he minimized the incident in both words and deeds by waiting until the next day to tell him and by "editing" what he saw. Additionally, at this point, who even knows what he actually saw and did, he has about 3 different stories on that.

Next in line are Curley and Schultz. Ultimately, according to Pennsylvania State law, it was their responsibility to contact the authorities. JoePa told them what McQueary told him. They chose to wait approximately a week and a half to meet with McQueary and they never took the report any further.

Also in line are the District Attorney (among others) who chose not to prosecute Sandusky in 1998. Not too mention the Board of Trustees who gave him the retirement package that included an office on campus and use of the facilities.

Is JoePa 100% blameless? Of course not and no one is suggesting that. JoePa, himself said that with benefit of hindsight, he wished he had done more. What, exactly, did he mean? Who knows? Maybe he wished he had gone to the police himself? Maybe he wished that he had asked more questions after he reported re: what is happening with the case? Maybe he was told, "It's being taken care of, there's nothing for you to worry about" and he left it alone after that believing that Curley and Schultz were doing their jobs? Heck, maybe he wished he had gotten a gun and just shot Sandusky himself? 

These people that you seem to take such delight in calling them Pedophile enablers (among other things) are simply assessing the blame where they think it belongs based on what we know right now and are simply waiting for the trials to take place and the facts to come out.

As I have shared before on this board, I spent over ten years of my life working with kids who were victimized by monsters like Jerry Sandusky. I have seen what these accusations can do to people who are falsely accused or falsely implicated or falsely told that they "didn't do enough". I have also seen what the actions of these monsters do to these kids for years and years.

The difference between posters like you and posters like me and some of the others on here is that we are not focusing solely on JoePa because he happens to be the "most recognizable name" in the bunch. Before any of this happened, did you even know who Jerry Sandusky, Mike McQueary, Curley or Schultz were? Probably not (I didn't). It's likely that the only person you had heard of was Paterno, so that is where you focus everything and anyone who says "Hey, how about we wait until the facts come out" is suddenly part of a "culture that enables pedophiles".

I know that everything that I just typed will mean absolutely nothing to you and that I have wasted my time. You will simply post another post about all of the counts against Sandusky and 20 years of cover up, etc. Oh well, you can say what you want, I'm no longer interested in responding to anything further that you may post.

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 27, 2012 9:32 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

I see some troll made a visit but got swatted away.

I am amazed at the amount of hatred demonstrated toward a football coach that tried to always do the right thing. That does not mean he was infallible, Joe Pa himself would be the first to say he was far from perfect.

No one knows the angst he suffered knowing that children were harmed and that he could have done more.

There still remains a lot to learn about wnat happened; what can be done to prevent those things from happening again and to prosecute those that preyed on the youngsters.
The hate has been misplaced in my opinion, but that is what a senseless mob does.

Since: Nov 2, 2010
Posted on: January 24, 2012 4:11 pm
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Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: January 24, 2012 3:38 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

I created that thread and then saw where it was on the front of CFB start page. lol

Thanks for taking the time to place it here.

Hope to see you tonight for the Pens game!

Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: January 24, 2012 3:35 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view


;      Just after I created that thread I found it on the front of CFB. Thanks for putting it here.

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 24, 2012 3:29 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

From another poster:


article of interest

January 24, 2012 3:27 pm

I wanted to share this .

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 22, 2012 12:03 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

RIP Joe Pa

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 22, 2012 10:43 am

Penn State Scandal - a view

Joe Paterno passed away today.

He was a man that loved the game of football. He was a positive influence on hundreds if not thousands of players, students and other people.

His legacy is forever sullied by the sordid actions of a person who had once played for him and then was on his coaching staff for many years.

Many, many people love Joe Paterno and should have no shame. Some are very vocal that Joe Paterno should not be put on a pedestal and even believe that he enabled the victimization of young people by a sexual predator.

Joe Paterno himself said, "In hindsight, I wish I had done more."  I actually think that would be a fitting epithet for Joe Pa. Those are wise words for us all. There is a person on this earth that has not sinned, either through willful misdeeds or by not doing enough.

In most cases, Joe Paterno was rarely found wanting in terms of doing the right things. His motto for the Penn State football team was "Success with Honor". A noble goal that people will take glee in pointing out the failings. But a goal is as much about the journey as it is the destination. It means that when your actions do not measure up; you pick yourself up and continue on the righteous path.

Rest in peace Joe Pa. In hindsight, I wish I had done more, and will strive to do better. Thanks for all your contributions.

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 21, 2012 2:49 pm

Penn State Scandal - a view

The saga continues. The investogations continue despite some claiming they have been delayed. The Penn State Board of Trustees has taken some preliminary actions to prevent similar incidents inthe future. Some are still trying to save Joe Paterno's legacy including Franco Harris.

I have met Franco several times including once since the allegations broke. I topld him that I admired his rectitude. he has taken quite a beating finanacially and reputation-wise for his very unpopular stance. He has a complicated position since many perceive it as being dismissive of the victims; anyone that knows him realizes that his actions are anything but the case. He is choosing to defend his former coach for what he sees as an injustice at personal cost to himself. Perhaps loyal to a fault.

Here is a Philadelphia Inquirer article that captures some of the status regarding the Board:

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