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Trolls and Stalkers

Posted on: December 23, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2012 8:33 am
 

This entry is not directly focused on sports but more on posters that choose to disrupt threads on CBSSports.com

There are many adjectives that could be applied to these folks the nicer ones being trolls or stalkers. They have many methods to gain some kind of perverse pleasure in angering or drawing others into losing their tempers or getting warned. There are some threads that are dedicated to slamming one another which is okay - you get what you ask for. Unfortunately, these trolls do not limit their bile to these threads instead they stalk people on sports threads or off topic threads where people just want to have good natured banter.

Some trolls have banded together and gang up on individual posters. Some posters try to combat them using their own methods but usually this is a futile effort since they have not invested the time to study the terms of service so closely they know how to use them to their advantage.

The trolls also communicate to the message board administrators so that they can have warnings removed or to lobby to get other posters who respond to their taunts and baiting in trouble through warnings.

These trolls rely on the bully mentality of ganging up on a poster. I’m sure many of you have witnessed this type of infantile behavior. The trolls rarely can stand up on their own in a tit for tat but rely on numbers to hound their prey. The trolls also use multiple ID’s which is permissible under the terms of service but provides them two advantages. One is that they can have multiple reports issued against an otherwise innocuous message and secondly it spreads out the warnings they do receive over a number of ID’s so that they can avoid being banned.

The most insidious trolls are those that befriend regulars on a thread in order to strike at others. Once a victim responds, the trolls will then cry foul and enlist the aid of their new found friends. However, one their hypocritical behavior is discovered they turn on their new friends that had just been defending them.

Gutless behavior by persons who have low self-esteem that want to drag people down to their level.

Known Trolls and Stalkers need not respond to this entry - your messages will be removed if deemed offensive.

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COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT


Managing Troll infestations
1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit

 



















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Since: Apr 22, 2012
Posted on: April 22, 2012 8:37 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

This blog only bothers stupid people so who cares , Imo Davido has treated trolls like trolls & said the same types of things that were said hundreds of times to him by acknowledged trolls from the stupid ghey say what ever bar . So stick that in your pipe & smoke it lil ladies.



Since: Jun 22, 2011
Posted on: February 21, 2012 1:47 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

I've never been a big fan of blogs but do comment on them on occasion. I am a huge fan of the "freedom to speech issues" about any subject you desire and advocate a person's desire respond after having been hounded and attacked on a regular basis.
In this case the author chose to remove the issue from heavily visited threads and from the view of anyone not wishing to participate.
Just how wrong is that?


SNAPPY2010
Since: Apr 19, 2010
Posted on: February 20, 2012 4:38 pm
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Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2012 12:19 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

David................just end this BLOG............I hoped you and Raven could have met for a Beer and Burger ???



BUT obviously that is NOT going to happen   



I believe you have made your point.............BUT I think it is time to put it to bed and let go of this BLOG.




Happy Predisents Day to all Amercians.   


SNAPPY2010
Since: Apr 19, 2010
Posted on: February 19, 2012 3:59 pm
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Posted on: February 19, 2012 8:17 am
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 17, 2012 6:49 am
 

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February 15, 2012 2:03 pm
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The above result is a ploy used by trolls to trip up unsuspecting posters. The tactic is quite simple and takes advantage of a poster's attempt to notify others in public of the contents contained in the PM. It also takes advantage of the fact that admins do not routinely moderate PM's.

The troll will send an unsolicited PM to the target containing a personal attack or information about a third party. The language of the PM may not contain curse words or be overly offensive, which gives the target the mistaken idea that the message can be reposted in public since they were the recipient and the language was innocuous.

Once the target reposts the PM as a public message - the troll reports the message as a privacy violation and the message is deleted. I was victimized by this once on the very same thread that this set-up took place; and as the troll pointed out, he had read and studied the terms of service and laughed at my ignorance of the rules. I'm sure the vast majority of posters have not read the terms of service, mainly because the don't use them to see how much they can get away with.

It is important to note, that it is possible that the troll himself did not necessarily report it. Others could have reported it or the admins themselves will delete messages that they feel violates the terms of service without a report submitted - so it is very difficult to prove unless your attacker boasts about it as happened in my situation.

If you do receive an unsolicited PM that is an attack; best not to repost it as this may be the intended action so you can be reported. You may be able to paraphrase what was said if you want to post the content in public (unless the message content itself violates the terms of service).



Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2012 8:03 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Davido,

      
;     I found this post and found it interesting:




Fog,
let
me tell you a short story that could show you the advantages of not using your
true IP addy.  Over four year ago, when I
was a notorious troll hunter I walked on one of the fastest growing threads in
CBS history looking to rid of the root of evil from the face of the community.  There I faced tons of trolls meaner than the
ones you see nowadays and I emerged as the lone survivor with 143 sns being
banned in a single instant.  That survivor
as me, I single-handedly won the nasty war.

Using
multiple ip addresses for each sn I used made it possible to come out as the
only one.  CBS wasn’t able to identify me
so I was deemed not trolling under multiple sns.  I was careful; I made sure I didn’t say
anything stupid that would get any of my sns banned.  The incident was strategized and calculated,
on a different thread from the war-torn thread I drew the trolls to the thread
where they got banned.

That was
my biggest achievement as a troll hunter. 
The memory is still fresh in my mind even to this day!

My post on the troll buckshave7 was removed for  offensive  or obscene language.  Unbelievable. I get zero response regarding the obvious trolling and yet my only thread was removed. LOL



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 7:40 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers



I am now aware of who your TARGET is, and I've looked at his fav list and you are not on it, why lie?   
You should have been aware that this blog "targets" the behavior of trolls. If someone takes offense that their actions make them feel as if they are a target  - then they should consider correcting their behavior.
Just realized that I did not answer your question completely. If we are talking about the same person, and I believe we are; then perhaps he dropped me from his fav list. I suggested this course of action to him on multiple occasions. Glad that he followed this advice.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 7:27 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Good morniing Val;

Nice to see your post. Here are my responses to your queries and observations:

You do NOT see this blog as a form or trolling/stalking/baiting?     
Because thats exactly how I view it, as you stalking, baiting and trolling..
No. The initial entry does not call anyone out and I did not invite anyone here to read it. The only people I identify are those that choose to visit and respond. That is a bit different from persons posting on an existing thread and then having someone make a personal attack or calling posters out by name to disparage or insult them.

You must live by these words: "Do as I say, and NOT as I do" (?????)
because its obvious to me that you don't even follow your own advice when dealing or interacting with those you consider trolls... 
Unless of course you have your own meaning to the word "ignore"...

  You're blog represents the fact that you do not choose to ignore...  
  The blog is intended to be educational and describe tactics and methods. There are a number of other blogs that address trolls in various ways. As for ignoring, that is the firsts step identified in my Community Service Announcement. Sometimes you must fight fire with fire. The CSA is an aid for posters in handling a troll attack - it does not mean that eveyone is oblivious to the behavior - hence the creation of the troll after observing varied tactics over a one year period.


I am now aware of who your TARGET is, and I've looked at his fav list and you are not on it, why lie?   
You should have been aware that this blog "targets" the behavior of trolls. If someone takes offense that their actions make them feel as if they are a target  - then they should consider correcting their behavior.

and what does this blog reflect? A mirror image of you crying for help?   And you're a victim of what exactly?  self Pity??
This blog reflects that I do not like the disruption of threads by trolls.


And you have an odd way of displaying that you are not angry and do not hate anyone.

Because this blog is full of your Anger, filled with hatred directed towards one poster... 
As stated before, this thread describes behaviors. Examples are used from multiple people. Decribing behavior and suggesting means of dealing with that behavior is neutral. Just because one person claims that it is directed at him does not make it so.

What I see here is a poster (you, Davido) crying for help but yet refuses to see his own spitefulness, which is brought on by himself!!

You also seem to display two different personalities,
on the B&G your kind and somewhat warm to your friends while posting amongst one another,
but here you display animosity, anger and hatred...
  You play the good and the bad all in the same day...(or better yet seek professional help, and don't be afraid to ask for medication)
Good that you see how I interact with people on the threads. As for claiming that I display anger and hatred here on this blog, simply not true. If I were so angry and hateful then I would be attacking you. Interesting that you use the term professional help; best direct that to trolls that attack others and have had people that they consider friends tell them that they should seek help - as friends they are in a better position to know the state of their friends.

First lesson (learn it quickly), NEVER place words in my mouth...Always ask instead of assume (asking never hurt anyone)I never said/wrote you had no friends or that they are avoiding you...
I did not place words in your mouth nor make an assumption, your exact words were:

"...It appears that you are quite jealous that these trolls and stalkers have friends to aid them but you appear to have none at this time. Could it be that your friends see your impending implosion and don't want to be around you when it happens, or could it just be that they don't want anything to do with this BLOG and the possible repurcussions that it may bring...hmm?" 

I did not claim that you said I had no friends - I stated that you said it appears that way. If I mischaracterized what you said, my mistake.

I was implying that your friends from the B&G are not posting on this blog,
they must not see eye to eye or agree with what you have posted here...
and that they avoid this thread because they do not want to reap the reprecussions that may or may not occur...
Now that is an assumption. First you do not who my friends are or are not. Second, you don't know if my blog has been discussed on different forums. Third it is okay for friends not to agree on everything. Fourth, there are multiple reasons why someone may not have responded - beginning with they may have never read it in the first place. LOL

Hence your jealousy towards your TARGET, and is why you continue to stir the pot and add fuel on an already lit fire, instead of ignoring and walking away with your pride, dignity and a lil class while allowing that fire to smolder and eventually burn out... 
  There is no target on this blog to walk away from. I am not targeting you or anyone. If a person believes their behavior is described on here and they feel bad then they should change their behavior. Not posting on this blog is not going to help them since they would not be self-cognizant of how they impact others with their deeds. You may want to convey that to the person who feels like they are a "target". I believe a close friend has already conveyed that message in very clear terms a day or two back.

Take care Val.



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