Blog Entry

Trolls and Stalkers

Posted on: December 23, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2012 8:33 am
 

This entry is not directly focused on sports but more on posters that choose to disrupt threads on CBSSports.com

There are many adjectives that could be applied to these folks the nicer ones being trolls or stalkers. They have many methods to gain some kind of perverse pleasure in angering or drawing others into losing their tempers or getting warned. There are some threads that are dedicated to slamming one another which is okay - you get what you ask for. Unfortunately, these trolls do not limit their bile to these threads instead they stalk people on sports threads or off topic threads where people just want to have good natured banter.

Some trolls have banded together and gang up on individual posters. Some posters try to combat them using their own methods but usually this is a futile effort since they have not invested the time to study the terms of service so closely they know how to use them to their advantage.

The trolls also communicate to the message board administrators so that they can have warnings removed or to lobby to get other posters who respond to their taunts and baiting in trouble through warnings.

These trolls rely on the bully mentality of ganging up on a poster. I’m sure many of you have witnessed this type of infantile behavior. The trolls rarely can stand up on their own in a tit for tat but rely on numbers to hound their prey. The trolls also use multiple ID’s which is permissible under the terms of service but provides them two advantages. One is that they can have multiple reports issued against an otherwise innocuous message and secondly it spreads out the warnings they do receive over a number of ID’s so that they can avoid being banned.

The most insidious trolls are those that befriend regulars on a thread in order to strike at others. Once a victim responds, the trolls will then cry foul and enlist the aid of their new found friends. However, one their hypocritical behavior is discovered they turn on their new friends that had just been defending them.

Gutless behavior by persons who have low self-esteem that want to drag people down to their level.

Known Trolls and Stalkers need not respond to this entry - your messages will be removed if deemed offensive.

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COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT


Managing Troll infestations
1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit

 



















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Comments

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 11, 2012 8:03 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

This  entire post is true Trolling in itself. No balls to come forth and say whats on your mind to those that bother you? Pathetic.
Yes, I would agree that your post is true trolling. Cool

True trolls do bother me a little; hence this blog entry. But they merit pity, not anger.

The only people that seem to be offended by this blog entry are trolls - who I agree, are pathetic.

Thanks for visiting, just a reminder, posts with offensive language will be removed.


Toxic Dwarf 2.0
Since: Jan 15, 2012
Posted on: February 10, 2012 7:16 pm
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 2:56 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

This particular troll has started talking about himself:



February 10, 2012 2:18 pm
The Ridicule Hop on Pop thread does not appear to have legs.  Might as well switch back.
That happens pop....generally when people create threads to ridicule others it generally come back to bite them in the ass. They make claims that thousands read their thread but few respond after a week or so.....they see it for what it is......a case of butt hurt disease and then they move on leaving the creator to talk to themself and their friends to question their motive for even creating it.
 


November 4, 2011 11:32 pm
Are you getting tired of the same ole......"Hi' and "Bye" bar and grill. Tied of the same ole Warning Trolls trying to control you for speaking your mind. Tired of the thread being run like a dictatorship? Tired of being judged based on who's on your friends list?

Well most of us are. The same ole same ole 90 year olds acting like old women at the back fence...keeping who they want and throwing away others like simple pieces of garbage.

Well pull up a stoll, have a drink, play the juke box and don't be affraid to speak your mind. Talk sports, talk food, talk about anything you want without fear of being warned or banned by the mental midgets of olefolksville.

Everyone is welcome regardless of age, race, creed, religion or sexual orientation.

Welcome to the Say What you Want Bar and Grill. It is now open for business.
Unfortunately, he uses the thread he created with such lofty ideals to bait and taunt people but hates it when the favor is returned.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 1:08 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

A classic troll technique - accuse others of being "pot stirrers" on one thread while baiting and taunting them on another. The troll hopes that posters do not read both threads so any retaliation by their target is not understood by the posters. Here is a sample that developed over the last few days:

On thread 1 today, the troll interupts a conversation to say:

February 10, 2012 12:13 pm
Perhaps there will be a tectonic shift in alliances.

Nah.......the lines have stabilized.....and others are still off obsessing, the pot stirrers are.....well, who cares.

An apparently innocuous comment while in the meantime he has attacked a number of posters on thread 2 trying to get a response. This troll went so far as to send me a PM inviting me to post on his thread (which I normally avoid). Here is a sample of what I found before deciding NOT to post on his troll tread:

 

February 4, 2012 11:59 pm

Have your infatuation with Larry and daviDOH Raven. I'm out.  CYAS.

1 response to Larry's dribble......and Davido.....who?

He some how thinks his "crew" is in charge of something and threatens some unknown enemies that are hiding - downright paranoid.

February 5, 2012 4:19 pm


Ahahahhaha, trust me, there are no posters that can touch the Crew.  And surely no posters that can "wipe the floor".  You see, the Crew is running this **** and have been for some time.  we don't spend all day on the 10 fest threads stroking each other to Superstar status.  we take it to the streets instead of Hiding in the shadows.  those that hide know that when they come out they will get knocked the **** out with no regards.

Notarize that and send it to the bank, cause thems the facts.

The troll then identifies some posters including myself - the idiot appears to be trying to set up a cyber gang fight. Unfortunately for him; although I have exchanged messages with some of the posters he names - we are not a gang and just want a thread to be left alone. 

February 5, 2012 5:45 pm


Awesome post Handi........they have the Wanna be Crew of Larry, Davido Yam and pckfan. None can hold a candle to us. We take no prisioners. You got something to say..say it. Don't hide behind each other or keep quiet till the others show up.

This crew rolls alone or in a pack. We stand united.

They can't even get warnings to stick.

I had 2 that chim chim tried to give me REMOVED.........Choke on that Wanna be CREW

He then baits another poster - so far he has four different posters trying to get a reaction - talk about stirring the pot; this little guy really needs attention.

February 5, 2012 10:06 pm

 

It's been a great game and thank the lord I won 50K OVER the "juice"!!!!!!! I can't believe I even called the 1st score would be a safety on the 1st Pats offensive play!!!!! I bet a nickle on that one at 500,000 to one and it represented 1/2 my winnings!!!  WOW!!!!!
I'm putting in a lawn with my winnings!!!

You gotta love JimBannedYamD......any chance he gets to make fun of someone.....Can't wait for Handi to tee off on his Yo ass.

Another member of the Wanna Be CREW opens mouth and inserts foot.

Getting no response; he calls out a 5th poster trying to get a response. This troill apparently thrives on hostility and negativity.

February 5, 2012 10:13 pm


And then you got Merc......always thingking about what to say and weather or not the the more powerful than him over there will accept what he says.......

I play at the same casino as another on this thread, won $1,000,000 on the under for the time of the game, got it in under 3 and half hours!  

Handi now has to decide who to slap first......Yam or Merc.

I saw both at the same time....neither will put up much of  afight. 

Finally, a completely new poster points out the hipocrasy in the trolls challenge.

February 5, 2012 10:19 pm


Make sure you post the bs handi posted about his winnings before you start on others raven. I do believe they are mocking him and what he says he's won.

The troll, who has not gotten any to bite yet accuses others of being "stalkers and drunks" while he has sent message after message trying to gain a reaction from somebody.

February 5, 2012 10:55 pm


I'm glad you finally realized that I am right....in fact I'm never wrong......the CREW is never wrong.

We are not ridding the world of anyhting....just opening their eyes and telling them that it is ok to stand up for yourself regardless of what a few stalkers and drunks across the street think.

got it......class dismissed. 

Evetually a poster did respons to the three stooges. Here the stalker troll chortles over publishing the personal information of a poster on the web - a clear violation of the terms of service. This person should be banned along with his other stalker troll freinds. 

February 7, 2012 5:58 am

 

You've been running your mouth since you were trashed on the make something up thread and now talk out of your azz and pizzing in your pants. Talk more, it's all you got punk.

Idiot. I owned that thread. Try to pay attention.
Why does Banned James always wait 30-45 minutes after I stop posting to start running his loser face? Butthurt I'd imagine.
Lets see... 
Facebook page exposed (check)
Home address (Check)
Arial satellite photos (Check)
Hey Banned James? If you really want to own something, Try grass in that yard of yours. But maybe you can't afford water in the desert huh? BTW, that house is smaller than my first APT.

This troll has been baiting posters on this webboard for a long time.


Toxic...you gotta understand....DavidO spent his life savings and went down to Texas to watch what he believed to be a sure win in the big game. He's currently trying to add the 42 porn movies he paid for at the hotel as expenses when he got put out of his seats.
This troll is trying to create an anti-crew crew. That is what he wants. A classic pot stirrer that people know and despise.

ebruary 5, 2012 10:06 pm

 

It's been a great game and thank the lord I won 50K OVER the "juice"!!!!!!! I can't believe I even called the 1st score would be a safety on the 1st Pats offensive play!!!!! I bet a nickle on that one at 500,000 to one and it represented 1/2 my winnings!!!  WOW!!!!!
I'm putting in a lawn with my winnings!!!

You gotta love JimBannedYamD......any chance he gets to make fun of someone.....Can't wait for Handi to tee off on his Yo ass.

Another member of the Wanna Be CREW opens mouth and inserts foot.

He continues to try to bait - and then fakes being freindly to people so that he can post "innocent" remarks. A stalker troll who thinks he is a macho man but is really just a stooge.

February 9, 2012 8:48 pm

 

He's afraid of losing his precious (or rather Pckfan sn that he's so fond of) because he knows this is Raven's turf.  As it seems, that admins favor thread-makers over those who disturb threads.  When things get too hot he bails out.  Scratch that, it's more like "when posters with guts show up he says a sentence and then runs away."  He can't handle the heat.  I say he's the biggest yellow I ever laid my eyes on.  

Truer words have never been spoken.

The weak run..the strong shall inherit the earth and put the weaklings to work for them.

Damn...that sounds pretty cool.

Davido...go get my laundry.


 





Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:04 am
 

The Three Stooges - Trolls Troll Themselves

A band of trolls have a thread that they use to draw people in and then attack them. Pretty insiduous to befriend people; promise that all are welcome and no one gets warned - only to get multiple posts removed as they invite insults by taunting the visitor who soons finds their posts disappearing.

It was very funny to see this band of trolls trip over themselves and point fingers at each other after one of the band inadverently got one of their crew members trolling ID's banned. See the Stooges in action:

[Curly troll reveals PMing a victim who found out how these trolls work in a band:]

February 7, 2012 7:36 pm

 I sent X a PM for him to leave me outta his squabble with Handi and the last thing I saw was he trying to post it for all to see.

X broke the thread......stupid Canadians.

[A brand new SN is banned after a few presumably nasty posts:]

Post Deleted by Administrator

February 7, 2012 8:48 pm


This message has been removed by the administrator.

[Moe troll (he also claims he reveals his multiple ID's this proves him to be a liar):]

February 7, 2012 9:11 pm


Now why the hell was that Banned?
I said I was coming in everytime. I'll get that back.

[Curly troll being his normal clueless self:]

February 7, 2012 9:13 pm

What are you talking about?

[Larry troll boasting he got an someone's SN banned:]

February 7, 2012 9:15 pm


Agh man, looks like another one of X's Sn's got banned. What a dope.

[Curly Troll is still clueless:]

February 7, 2012 9:20 pm


Where? Why am I missing all this.

[Moe Troll crying for his lost SN that he used to bait people:]

February 7, 2012 9:25 pm

I want that SN back.
I did nothing wrong.

[Moe Troll realizing that Larry Troll got his new fake SN banned:]

February 7, 2012 9:26 pm

Handi? Did you just ban me man?
Thats messed up man.

[Curly Troll still trying to figure out what is going on:]

February 7, 2012 9:29 pm


Did skata get banned?

[Moe Troll has to spell it out for Curly troll:]

February 7, 2012 9:32 pm


Yep. And I think that dumbass handi did it thinking I was X.

[Moe troll running to the admins to get the fake SN that he uses to troll people back:]

February 7, 2012 9:33 pm


I'm protesting it now. On the admins thread. I announced everytime I changed profiles.

[Curly troll trying to mend bridges between Moe and Larry Troll]

February 7, 2012 9:36 pm


I'm sure he didn't do it on purpose...if he was the one who did it.

This was so pathetic I laughed this morning when I saw it. They spent much of their time being e-tough guys and trying to get a visitor to their thread banned. They did get some of his messages deleted which is a warning to posters - stay away from the three stooges - they are warning trolls!



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2012 9:18 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

This was funny. A small troll was baiting some posters and when they reseponded he claimed that he ignores their posts. I was not a part of the conversation; but the small troll out of the blue blurts out that he has not changed his behavior because of my blog and "chooses" to ignore me. 

He also claims that my messages are not "worthy of responding". Technically the small troll is correct since I did not address any messages to him to respond to. However, it is obvious that he realizes that his personal attacks are not well regarded by me or others since he takes the time to emphatically state that he ignores me (my blog?). I'm afraid he protests too much. LOL

This small troll is an apparent regular reader of this blog and is concerned that his image as an e-tough guy will somehow be harmed if he were to treat others with respect. This particular troll had a potty mouth but has cleaned up most of his misogynist and offensive language laced posts concurrent with the establishment of this blog just a few weeks ago. Perhaps it is coincidence. Wink

February 6, 2012 8:00 pm


DaviDOH? Don't think for a second I changed because of you and your BLOG. I choose to ignore you for I find you ridiculously ignorant to your surroundings.

February 6, 2012 8:01 pm

 Sometimes it's hard to [-] before reading the post.

All I have to do is see DaviDOH, and it's a given. The guy has no skills whatsoever. Not worthy of responding.





Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 4, 2012 5:58 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Most of these trolls and staplers consider themselves. Internet tuff guys. So my response Isntry tomignore them. They need constant validation of there posts. Once you respond there in. If you ignore they troll somewhere else to spew venom. I unfortunately have given in and. CBS " punished me for it ". I try tonlet cooler heads prevail.
StlCards - Your method is spot on. Trolls tend to learn how far they can go with the Terms of Service and avoid a warning while goading their victim into retaliating and getting punished. It is analogous to football; where it is rare that the player throwing the first punch draws the flag - the instigator throws the first punch which draws the refs attention in time to see the victim retaliating to the second punch and getting the penalty. The trolls are master baiters. They are compelled to engage in their sinful behavior and love it when they can draw a victim in to getting punished while they escape chastisement.

Ignoring does not always work. One troll who has stalked me for about one year has followed me from thread to thread. he has gotten a couple other SN's banned from other people and it appears his goal is to get me banned. At some points I do engage him and the band of trolls he has gathered to show their hipocrisy.

Below is a set of suggestions that I laid out on one thread that I frequent that has been battling a resostent infestation. The stalker troll followed me onto this thread and announced he was targeting four other posters including myself. The pitiful creature has not been successful but has caused many other good posters to leave the thread and in some cases stop posting on cbssports message boards:


COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Managing Troll infestations

1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger. 

10. One thing that stops a lot of needless baiting ... NO FINGER POINTING

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit





Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: February 4, 2012 3:28 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Most of these trolls and staplers consider themselves. Internet tuff guys. So my response Isntry tomignore them. They need constant validation of there posts. Once you respond there in. If you ignore they troll somewhere else to spew venom. I unfortunately have given in and. CBS " punished me for it ". I try tonlet cooler heads prevail.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 4, 2012 1:00 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Lets all define troll and stalking as it pertains to the CBS threads. Because mayb e some don't understand. My definition is Troll is like searching or browsing dropping into a public thread ton drop of your two cents. Stalking is going after a particular ID thread after Thread. To start a conversqtion / trouble Am I right ? Your thoughts ????
StlCard - You have hit on one issue - people have different definitions of what comprises a troll and a stalker.

One poster has gone to the administrators complaining that I am stalking him because of this this blog. He is not obligated to visit this thread and he is not mentioned by name in my posts. I have used some if his posts as examples but excise his nme and event the thread from where I copied and pasted his messages - his issue is that his own words have been used as examples of trollish ir stalking behavior - hardly stalking in any reasonable person's defintiion.

This particular troll keeps me on his favorites list and monitors my messages and then quotes them out of context in a disparging way on other threads - he has followed me from thread to thread - that to me would constitute stalking and appears to match your definition.

Trollish behavior is intended to disrupt a thread or to bait other posters into retaliating - so then the trolls can report them to the admins. Here is one troll boasting to his friends about such an attack:

February 3, 2012 11:04 am
Add pckfan to that list.....he tried messing with me last night at the other bar.

I let the wrath of 1 crew member loose on him.....the results......5 posts removed a 1 warning for STALKING.

Of course cupcake had to get involved.........he got put in his place also.

These trolls will continue by calling other posters names or calliung them drunks etc.

I think you have the beginnings of working defintiions of these trolls. I describe some of their tactics in earlier entries on this blog message thread.





Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: February 4, 2012 11:53 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Lets all define troll and stalking as it pertains to the CBS threads. Because mayb e some don't understand. My definition is Troll is like searching or browsing dropping into a public thread ton drop of your two cents. Stalking is going after a particular ID thread after Thread. To start a conversqtion / trouble Am I right ? Your thoughts ????


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