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Trolls and Stalkers

Posted on: December 23, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2012 8:33 am
 

This entry is not directly focused on sports but more on posters that choose to disrupt threads on CBSSports.com

There are many adjectives that could be applied to these folks the nicer ones being trolls or stalkers. They have many methods to gain some kind of perverse pleasure in angering or drawing others into losing their tempers or getting warned. There are some threads that are dedicated to slamming one another which is okay - you get what you ask for. Unfortunately, these trolls do not limit their bile to these threads instead they stalk people on sports threads or off topic threads where people just want to have good natured banter.

Some trolls have banded together and gang up on individual posters. Some posters try to combat them using their own methods but usually this is a futile effort since they have not invested the time to study the terms of service so closely they know how to use them to their advantage.

The trolls also communicate to the message board administrators so that they can have warnings removed or to lobby to get other posters who respond to their taunts and baiting in trouble through warnings.

These trolls rely on the bully mentality of ganging up on a poster. I’m sure many of you have witnessed this type of infantile behavior. The trolls rarely can stand up on their own in a tit for tat but rely on numbers to hound their prey. The trolls also use multiple ID’s which is permissible under the terms of service but provides them two advantages. One is that they can have multiple reports issued against an otherwise innocuous message and secondly it spreads out the warnings they do receive over a number of ID’s so that they can avoid being banned.

The most insidious trolls are those that befriend regulars on a thread in order to strike at others. Once a victim responds, the trolls will then cry foul and enlist the aid of their new found friends. However, one their hypocritical behavior is discovered they turn on their new friends that had just been defending them.

Gutless behavior by persons who have low self-esteem that want to drag people down to their level.

Known Trolls and Stalkers need not respond to this entry - your messages will be removed if deemed offensive.

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COMMUNITY SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT


Managing Troll infestations
1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit

 



















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Comments

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:13 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

have you ever considered why people troll? I believe they're just starved for attention. Again, I understand what you're trying to do, but I wonder if creating a blog dedicated to trolls and stalkers will actually be counterproductive to your goal and just add fuel to their fire
Bizona - I agree with you; these trolls are starved for attention. They make up stories to garner sympathy from good natured people and try to create rifts among posters.

As for whether this blog is counterproductive; it has averaged over 43 views a day since its creation. One particular troll claims that this blog is all about him - while at the same time trying to play victim. Funny; he agrees that he is a troll by accepting the behaviors I describe apply to him but then tries to turn it around into being victimized.

Since this blog was created on 23 December; I have not discerned a significant increase or decrease in the trollage on the threads. The same trolls are there although a large number of SN';s were banned includng a few that had been around for a couple years. This must be attributed to closer monitorng by the admins. One troll inadverently caused this scrutiny on himself and his crew by going to the admins trying to get me warned on multiple occasions. What he failed to realize was that the admins are not just going to listen to one side of the story. As a result, one of his friends had multiple SN's banned. Justice does get served sometimes.

It has put at least one troll on notice and he has cleaned up his language and moderated his behavior somewhat in order to try to turn other posters against me - a failed attempt but nice try. So overall, I would say this blog has not necessarily affected the number of trolls but has assisted in moderating some of their behavior by getting the trolls attention focused on me.

It will be interesting to see how the impending message board changes such as eliminating the rating system affect the trollage. My guess is that the changes itself will not impact the trolls and stalkers - adopting my community service announcement steps for managing trolls and closer monitoring by the admins will mitigate the trollage by getting rid of them sooner regardless of the changes.







Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 4:11 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

I appreciate what you're trying to do here, but have you ever considered why people troll? I believe they're just starved for attention. Again, I understand what you're trying to do, but I wonder if creating a blog dedicated to trolls and stalkers will actually be counterproductive to your goal and just add fuel to their fire. Personally, I try to constantly remind myself the best way to get rid of a troll is to not acknowledge or respond to them. I am not as successful in doing this as I'd like to be.......which is why I'm constantly reminding myself. lol

Just my 2 cents.....I do wish you luck because this website, particularly recently, has been the scene of some really absurd and offensive posts/posters, not to mention very inconsistent administration.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:10 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

A long time poster on an off topic thread got baited and then reported to the admins by a troll who follows the same pattern. He baits people and they embarrass him; he goes tit for tat but finally loses his temper and reports the poster.

The long time poster shows a lot more good breeding than the troll will ever have. He accepts responsibility for engaging the troll and does not point fingers of blame. He even thanks the admins for doing their job. That is accountability in action.

February 3, 2012 1:31 am
Well .. I see the ADmin .. has been watchin my posts tonight ..
and has taken the oportunity to remove some great oration on my part ..
 but I can see how they might construe them as being enflamatory .. 
 ok .. and if they were ... .. all is well 


(name of troll removed) knows he's been served ... and that was well worth it .. 
to the admin .. sorry I forced your hand .. 
and UNLIKE the trolls .. 

I'm not accusing any of being reported .. 
the admin is only trying to keep our little thread civil .. 
and to that they have my thanks .
Just some forewarning if you decide to engage a troll. The sympathy seeking creatures will go along trading written insults until they are too embarrassed - if their friends are not around to protect them they hit that report button to hide behind the skirts of the administrators.

It is okay to report trolls and stalkers that disrupt threads through unsolicited personal attacks or engaging in goulish behavior such as attacking the memory of a dear friend who has passed away. But to trade insults with a person and then report them is the act of a coward. They can deny all day and claim innocence - that's what 99% of incarcerated prisoners do. Guilty as charged they remain.

NOTE: I removed the original message the troll was identified by name in the quoted post.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:08 am
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 1, 2012 3:32 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Another poster chased off the message board by an unfortunate tit for tat that got out of hand.

January 31, 2012 11:15 pm
I had a great pleasure getting to know all of you but I must retire from CBS Sports-  

Live Long & Prosper!

Farewell!







Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 1, 2012 3:02 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers


One of the dumber complaints I have seen. I made up some farcial captions including place names to go along with some unusual mug shots. Some idiot that claims I am stalking him took issue that his home town was used. No other posters from pennsylvania, Tampa Bay, Indiana or any other places mentioned among the multiple photos took it personally except for him.

He even directs posters to go to his profile to compare the home town he has listed - and then lists the actual name of the person in the photograph including the actual circumstances that he must have looked up on the internet. Not a single person on the thread had linked the place name with his profile - until he called attention to it. Is there something like reverse-stalking?  What a killjoy. LOL

Pasadena, Md - Some of his tats were still wet so local PD saved on costs by having him use his own ink for fingerprints.



Take note everyone as to the City and State that my personal stalker used to show where this guy was arrested....now look at my profile and look where I show my residency.....hmmm.

Truth of the matter is was arrested in Missouri for being within 500 feet of a school as he is a registered sex offender.

 

Guess my personal stalker has nothing better to do but stir the pot in a half hearted attempt to try ONCE again to achieve some type of personal satisfaction in his lonely exhistence.

 Veritas vos Liberabit




Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: February 1, 2012 8:09 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

February 1, 2012 12:58 am
Canucks 3 Hawks 2 OT

STUPID CRAWFORD! Congrats Larry.

To the true friends here I'm done minus posts on certain people who love to stir the pot here or degrade Women on other threads and act TWO FACE here . It's annoying.

Just like other threads  the two lonely boys Bobys Twins that love to upload dream girls as AVI's and accuse me as a stalker and call me a BITCH because I see through their crap. Will stop in a blue Moon. but there are a lot of LOSERS on this site.

Take care and use the minus button on The Crew, FGM or other MORONS that have no life.
Or come to the B1G thread. Trolls will be insulted there because that group of posters have a LIFE!

Nite everyone.
A good poster letting folks know she is through posting on an off topic thread that is used for socializing. The thread has been infested with a group of trolls that wandered onto it and will not leave. Most of the original posters remain polite to the trolls; some choose to ignore them while others engage. Unfortunately, some good posters decide to leave. Good choice, you don't have to put up with the crap from these miscreants if you don't have to.

The band of trolls will continue unabated since they have no shame and will lie to get sympathy from others to justify their continued presence. Such is life.

Veritas vos Liberabit



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2012 9:57 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Have received some messages from folks who appreciate the educational value of this blog string. It appears that many of you have encountered the tactics and situations that I have described. One of the biggest questions is always whether to ignore the trolls and stalkers or to engage them. My advice is to try to ignore them as much as you can. Most malafides will soon get bored and go on to try and victimize someone else. Others are more persistent - sort of like that ugly bathroom mold that keeps reappearing after constant scrubbing with various fungicides. Several warnings and even a banning and it keeps coming back - you know the type. Usually, the truth is a good defense. Describe their actions in plain terms so that their ugliness is exposed to the light of day. However, this particular strain is quick to adapt and will imitate the righteous indignation of a decent poster to deflect blame and try to smear your reputation. You describe their stalking behavior when they follow you from thread to thread - now thay call you a stalker. Stay resolute, since history is on your side. The trolls and stalkers have shown others what they are from previous posts.

Here is a sample exchange between myself and a stalker troll. This has been an extended exchange and identified him long ago as my personal stalker. Attempts to ignore this troll for short periods have not worked. This mold is now in the copy cat mode and claims I am stalking him - yet he keeps me on his favorites list and always seems to be aware of what I have posted on threads that he has never visited. I will go back into ignore mode but this stalker troll will likely continue - but one can always hope that they finally recognize their own sick disruptive behavior - perhaps a family member will intervene.

Here is the exchange for your edification with my notes in parens:


January 29, 2012 6:34 pm
(me)Since you8 like it so much:

(stalker troll) Have another one cupcake.

I think this is like th 5th time i've asked.....when we gonna meet up for coffee and discuss you hate toward me?

Don't be a puddin sitting behind a key board all the time cupcake.Sometimes you gotta step out into the real world.
(he has been requesting to meet me in person - but then tells others that he has engaged an attorney because I am stalking him. He is a Ravens fan and I agreed to go to a bar he claimed to frequent when the Ravens played. I went there and he failed to show )
January 29, 2012 7:49 pm
I think this is like th 5th time i've asked.....when we gonna meet up for coffee and discuss you hate toward me?
(me) I was at Pickles for the Bengals game and you were not, was easy to spot in Steelers jacket.  I posted the picture of Pickles that included a couple Bengals fans in the foreground as my AV. You did not even know the type of beer they serve there so doubt you have ever been there.

I did not go to Pickles for the Browns or Texans games in Baltimore.

Sorry girlie man; you had your chance and were a no show. Now you say you are getting an attorney after me - why would I want to meet an idiot like you now?
(The stalker troll attempts to discredit my message by calling them all lies. The lesson here is to always tell the truth; the trolls rely on deceit. if you make a mistake own up to it. The troll will try to press the advantage, but the truth is on your side. Stick to it, do not exaggerate and if you do inadverently make a mistake - admit it and stick to the germane facts of the dispute)
January 29, 2012 8:43 pm
I was at Pickles for the Bengals game and you were not, was easy to spot in Steelers jacket.
Lie #1.....you claimed there was some guy in a Polamalu jersey. Not you in a Steeler jacket. I was sitting right inside the door at the bar. never was a person in a Steeler jacket or jersey. 
  I posted the picture of Pickles that included a couple Bengals fans in the foreground as my AV.
ie #2LThey come here every year.....I've seen that pic before. Stock pic. 
 You did not even know the type of beer they serve there so doubt you have ever been there.


Lie #3 If I don't drink some pansey ass beer why would I even are if the serve it....which they do not. I just called em. 

Sorry girlie man;
More man that you are......cupcake.....I'm willing to meet up, but you are too much of a
(sometimes the troll will inadvertently give you a compliment; although it is rarely intended or sincere, acknowledge it and thank them. The stalker trolls will also use ommission to to try and hide facts that embarrass them. Earlier, this troll has threatened to engage an attorney which is a fact. In his parsing my messages, he has conveniently omitted this fact which demonstrates how ridiculous he has allowed a message board to affect his life. A normal person would acknowledge it by saying something like - 'Yeah, I said that and it was dumb, sorry about that.' But a true stalker troll cannot bring itself to admit when he has done wrong.)
January 30, 2012 12:05 am

Lie #1.....you claimed there was some guy in a Polamalu jersey. Not you in a Steeler jacket. I was sitting right inside the door at the bar. never was a person in a Steeler jacket or jersey.

Reread the post - I said there was another Steeler fan in a Troy Polamalu jersey at the game - I did not say he was in pickles.
ie #2LThey come here every year.....I've seen that pic before. Stock pic. --
  It was a picture taken with my camera at ground level. If you think it is a professional stock picture; I guess I should thank you for the inadverent compliment. You could compare the weather conditions or whether the game was played at day of night the last time they played the Bengals. Not my worry; you don't believe that I took the picture; I don't believe you go to Pickles
 
Lie #3 If I don't drink some pansey ass beer why would I even are if the serve it....which they do not. I just called em.

Any regular would know what kind of beer they have. They don't serve that many beers. You are also wrong again since I did indeed drink a Fat Tire while there - well more than one.

Once again you are saying ... .

I note that you do not deny threatening me with an attorney - just demonstrates that you take this way too seriously. Most reasonable people would find it odd that someone who says that I am stalking them has asked to meet me in person five times - or is it six? I'm losing count. Wink
Lessons:

1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. Report trolls who do not go away once ignored to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will try use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.Smile



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:10 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

This particular person threatened to contact his attorney several weeks ago because he believes I am stalking him. Unfortunately, if he does waste his money on an attorney he will find that they will need to look at all of the message traffic that both of us have posted on this message board. He cannot just tell his side of the story and expect to get an outcome - both sides of the story are told along with the facts which includes all the message traffic. That string of messages will plainly show him initiating insults and following me onto various threads. In the meantime, he continues posting veiled threats such as this one ...

January 29, 2012 2:51 pm
You mean the same Davido that you said to me via PM....was OBSESSED with me......OK, no problem.


Yep...same one.
Sorry cupcake.

Get over your obsession......you are soon to see that STALKING is not only a violation of the TOS....but it's illegal in Maryland.

tick....tick....tick...tick.




Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 28, 2012 9:18 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers



January 28, 2012 8:36 pm
 New furnace - and the house is warming up again.
Well thank God.....DC Housing Authority finally showed up.
This is a typical troll that revels in another's misfortune. A person that is showing their lack of class.


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