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Trolls and Stalkers

Posted on: December 23, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2012 8:33 am
 

This entry is not directly focused on sports but more on posters that choose to disrupt threads on CBSSports.com

There are many adjectives that could be applied to these folks the nicer ones being trolls or stalkers. They have many methods to gain some kind of perverse pleasure in angering or drawing others into losing their tempers or getting warned. There are some threads that are dedicated to slamming one another which is okay - you get what you ask for. Unfortunately, these trolls do not limit their bile to these threads instead they stalk people on sports threads or off topic threads where people just want to have good natured banter.

Some trolls have banded together and gang up on individual posters. Some posters try to combat them using their own methods but usually this is a futile effort since they have not invested the time to study the terms of service so closely they know how to use them to their advantage.

The trolls also communicate to the message board administrators so that they can have warnings removed or to lobby to get other posters who respond to their taunts and baiting in trouble through warnings.

These trolls rely on the bully mentality of ganging up on a poster. I’m sure many of you have witnessed this type of infantile behavior. The trolls rarely can stand up on their own in a tit for tat but rely on numbers to hound their prey. The trolls also use multiple ID’s which is permissible under the terms of service but provides them two advantages. One is that they can have multiple reports issued against an otherwise innocuous message and secondly it spreads out the warnings they do receive over a number of ID’s so that they can avoid being banned.

The most insidious trolls are those that befriend regulars on a thread in order to strike at others. Once a victim responds, the trolls will then cry foul and enlist the aid of their new found friends. However, one their hypocritical behavior is discovered they turn on their new friends that had just been defending them.

Gutless behavior by persons who have low self-esteem that want to drag people down to their level.

Known Trolls and Stalkers need not respond to this entry - your messages will be removed if deemed offensive.

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Managing Troll infestations
1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit

 



















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Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: January 12, 2012 8:23 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Davido, Be careful posting stuff like this. Sometimes I just go through a page or two and give every post a 5. I don't look at the persons screen name. It's just a courtesy and has nothing to do with the content etc. It doesnt mean I condone the behavior. For the record, I don't even know who this Mops person was or what the fascination with her is all about. In other words, don't jump to conclusions because someone rated a post.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 7:49 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

A number of different trolling tactics have been described here.

The most vile trolls that infest these message boards are those that attack the memory of a person who was a very admired poster and friend of many on these message boards. She was an Atlanta Braves fan and almost all who came in contact with mentioned what a fine person she was. She lost her battle with an insiduous disease and is survived by her husband.

An unkown troll (s) thinks it is a game to make up SN's that make derogatory or necrophiliac references to her. It is way over the top to attack the memory of someone that was posting here a few short months ago; but it is inhuman to attack her friends who have tried to memoralize her through a thread. The administrators have done a good job of babbing these SN's fairly quickly, yet this vile troll (s) continue. A number of other trolls have also used her memory as a way to poke fun at her surviving friends as recently as yesterday. Anyone that would call one of these trolls a friend is as sick as they are. I come to the conclusion that these posters are either directly involved in creating the fake SN's that mock her memory or are friends with the troll that makes it up.

Very sick and depraved is the best way to describe these people.




MopsSaggyTits
Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:56 pm
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 8:19 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

One troll used some baiting tactics to try to anger a poster. This troll is not very bright so only managed to anger himself.

1. During the Saints-Lions game a poster notes that the home crowd quieted down after the Lions picked up a first down.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:32 pm


Big first down. Quieted the crowd a little.

2. Another poster wonders if the Dome ever gets quiet.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:36 pm


Is that Dome  ever freakin Quiet?  I had to turn the volume down.

3. A troll says the dome is never quiet - but if you watched the game, you know the volume does change especially when the opposition has the ball.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:38 pm


That place could never be quiet. I think it's even noisy when it's empty. New Orleans fans are so passionate about their team.

Mega loud.

4. The original poster states the opinion that he prefers football be played in the grass.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:38 pm


I don't like domes, would prefer they played football outdoors on grass.

5. The troll now counters the opinion that players would rather play indoors than the grass is frozen in places like Green Bay or Chicago.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:42 pm

 

I don't like domes, would prefer they played football outdoors on grass.

And I'm sure the players would rather pad up and play indoors when its Chicago Or Green Bay  when the grass field is frozen and will cut you to death.  (Just a Thought)

6. The original poster points out that they play outdoors in Chicago and Green Bay now and reiterates that he was just stating his opinion about playing football in domes versus outdoors.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:44 pm


Gets pretty cold in early January in Green Bay and Chicago now. Just stating my preference. has turned into an excellent cold weather QB and is a California boy.

 7. During the same game, the original poster notes the atrocious tackling by the Lions. The same troll asks what will happen if they don't.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:43 pm

 

 need to tackle.

And if they don't?   

8. The original poster advises the troll that the Lions will lose bad and Pieere Thomas may run for a lot of yards. Which happened - Thomas ran for 66 yards on only 8 carries for a whopping 8.25 ypc. The Lions did lose bad.

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:46 pm

 

 need to tackle.

And if they don't?   

Then they will lose bad and may run for a lot of yards.

9. The troll frustrated at being shown to be a fool since cold weather teams do play outdoors (and an overwhelming majority of NFL players prefer playing on grass) and that the Lions poor tackling would contribute to their loss lashes out. Appraently, he is not in a happy marriage either. LOL

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:48 pm


Seriuosly man. Just stop commenting on the game. You sound like my wife. It's so pathetic, I'm not even laughing at you.

10. A completely different poster calls out the troll for being a hypocrite

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:54 pm


(name of troll removed to save him from embarrassment) so ur saying you can type what you want ... but DavidO can't.

Right?

11. The troll grudgingly agrees that people can say what they want but tries to say the poster does not know anything about football. The poster never claimed to be an expert but made one observation which was true and another opinion which many NFL players share. Appears this troll does not really know football very well and needs to learn how to bait better since he only succeeded in angering himself. LMAO

 

 

All Friends Bar and Grill

January 7, 2012 8:56 pm


He can say what he wants Geo , But it's obvious he doesn't know chit  about football and I will say whay I will.






Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 7:42 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

A number of trolls ant me to post more blog entries on trolls and stalkers. I guess they like reading about themselves. I will reprint a post by a person that has been having a tit for tat with one band of trolls:

 

Tour O OWNS this Bar & Grill

January 9, 2012 4:40 pm
These people who are rating & cheering on those who are  mocking & making fun of OUR MOPS . As I continue to say RAVEN & HANDI are the same , Raven  is a problem here some want him here I as WHY ? Are you blind Raven & his friends don't want to get along I'v tried . the Mops I.D's & Tour O  same guy he had most of them faved before I did . So for those who want to continue to overlook Raven 's obvious hatred for the B&G - Shame on you .Yell
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It is a very despicable practice to support trolls who continually insult the memory of a person that passed away this past year. They claim that they are just having fun - having fun at the expense of a dead woman and the persons who grieve for her are depraved.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 2:10 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

A poster said they tried to post on this blog but encountered difficulty so they placed it on another thread. I have placed their message in its entirety below. In response to some of this posters assertions: 1. I do not consider myself to be a "troll hunter". This blog describes their methods and tactics. 2. Some trolls have chosen to identify themselves as such on this blog or in other threads on the message boards. Some other good people have left messages here discussing the methods or identifying trolls themselves. That is ok. However, messages that are deemed offensive will be removed. 3. as for having a blind spot to 'Eddie Haskell's". That is true. I do try to give people the benefit of doubt. This has led to being taken advantage of by some trolls - but this is more a reflection of their low standing as a decent person than me being gullible for giving them a chance to be a good person.

January 6, 2012 2:34 am
I tried to post on your blog but it kept spitting out funny-  single line left hand side-


I believe all the sound research indicates to ignore trolls.  Difficult- because Trolls lie and we usually want to correct lies.  But this blog is like a Taj Mahal for Trolls.  You are not supposed to give them attention, but you created a shrine for them! This is their Grand Canyon-  a monument to trolls! 
And if you are a Troll-hunter, you seem to have blind spot for Eddie Haskells.  You may have gotten into wars with trolls, and other trolls took advantage to befriend you while your guard was down.  On a daily basis you exchange pms with a guy who was banned a good ten times in the last 2-3 months.

How can you be so clued into trolls-  but not be able to spot an infamous King 'O The Trolls yourself? Or do you think somebody could be banned over an over and over recently-  but "he's not a troll?"   Just keeps getting banned over and over and over...  "for no reason..."   Frown


Of course the reasonable post above was pounced upon by a stalker troll who again demonstrated his obsession with this blog:

January 6, 2012 9:44 am

 Pop.....pay this supposed Troll Hunter no mind. Before he hunts Trolls he needs to hunt for his own pea brain.

Davido is a pot stirrer from the geezer board seeking attention and acceptance from those over there. He feels a need to fit in in the sports world. A subject he knows very little about.

His constant PMs are 2 fold.....first they are requests for direction as to what to do in certain situations concerning people he doesn't like, second they are cries from known WARNING TROLL to come to his aid.

As for his blog.....you are quite right in your assumption. He has created a shrine to What he calls Trolls and Stalkers.....when he is as a matter of fact. Ever since his miserable failure on the "Make Something Up About the Poster Above You" thread Davido has made it his life long mission to seek revenge to those who OWNED him on that thread.....myself and (the troll's friends name has been removed). He trolls pages and pages and pages of my posts looking for something he can use for his silly little game. My response.....WHATEVER.

His blog is a failure just like the other 4 he created.......no responses and him talking to himself. Let him ramble...people will eventually see him for what he is.......Dilusional and Obsessed with others on here.


 This bleating post contains inaccuracies,  inconsistencies and factual errors. First, he obviously does not know the content of my PM's since his assertions are untrue. Second, he dismisses the blog with a "Whatever"; but then admits to tracking it. Third, he is a poor tracker since there are responses from other people to my blog entries  including entries from himself (although he will remain nameless to protect his fragile ego). Smile




Sid Shizzle
Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: January 6, 2012 11:36 am
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S.W.A.T
Since: Jun 26, 2011
Posted on: January 6, 2012 11:18 am
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Sid Shizzle
Since: Jan 6, 2012
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2012 1:50 am
 

Trolls and Stalkers

On the B & G it is obvious who the three people creating new SN or digging up old ones. I'm on ignore mode and once in a blue moon type a "SLAVE TO THE RYTHEM" post. Because that all it is. 
Sports Chic - That is unfortunate. A number of these multiple SN's have been eliminated but it is sort of like battling hydra  - one is banned and it seems like two more crop up. The administrators appear to be monitoring that thread and the alternate B & G since they have gotten rid of some of them. Still a persistent infestation that has chased some good people away. The trolls continue to disrupt that thread.

Here are some examples from a troll on an off topic thread this evening:

1. One troll that who can remain nameless to save him the embarrassment claims that he is not the problem but it is me who is disrupting the thread:

Told you a long time ago that this place would be as normal as the other bar without Chim Chim.....one day you will all listen.

2. Another regular responded:

I believe this is how you refer to DavdO, (name of troll deleted)

Here's how I remember it ....
Davido started posting here a few months ago.  Everything was perfectly normal... 

3. Earlier in the afternoon the same troll on the same thread said that he wasn't the problem - it was another person:
 

January 5, 2012 2:04 pm

(name of troll deleted), I thought you'd be capable of letting this feud go and moving on.

No feud Muds.....just having some fun.

Rok is the one with issues...no I.

4. Later in the evening, the same troll on the same thread said he wasn't the problem. It was yet another person:

January 5, 2012 7:38 pm

This is exactly why the 2 bars will never get along.......you can't let go.

But rest assured Larry...you are in perfect company. You were wrong with what you did and now you point fingures while in safe haven.
5. The troll explains to a regular that he is not the problem; its the others causing the problems with their finger pointing:

January 5, 2012 5:18 pm


Muds...to be honest I don't really care either. I said what I said and I stand by it. This thread would be more like normal with him gone.....the desire to argue and then the finger pointing is what causes all the issues.


Seems to be a pattern here, simple really:  it's everyone one else that is the problem.  hmmmmmWink


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