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Trolls and Stalkers

Posted on: December 23, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 7, 2012 8:33 am
 

This entry is not directly focused on sports but more on posters that choose to disrupt threads on CBSSports.com

There are many adjectives that could be applied to these folks the nicer ones being trolls or stalkers. They have many methods to gain some kind of perverse pleasure in angering or drawing others into losing their tempers or getting warned. There are some threads that are dedicated to slamming one another which is okay - you get what you ask for. Unfortunately, these trolls do not limit their bile to these threads instead they stalk people on sports threads or off topic threads where people just want to have good natured banter.

Some trolls have banded together and gang up on individual posters. Some posters try to combat them using their own methods but usually this is a futile effort since they have not invested the time to study the terms of service so closely they know how to use them to their advantage.

The trolls also communicate to the message board administrators so that they can have warnings removed or to lobby to get other posters who respond to their taunts and baiting in trouble through warnings.

These trolls rely on the bully mentality of ganging up on a poster. I’m sure many of you have witnessed this type of infantile behavior. The trolls rarely can stand up on their own in a tit for tat but rely on numbers to hound their prey. The trolls also use multiple ID’s which is permissible under the terms of service but provides them two advantages. One is that they can have multiple reports issued against an otherwise innocuous message and secondly it spreads out the warnings they do receive over a number of ID’s so that they can avoid being banned.

The most insidious trolls are those that befriend regulars on a thread in order to strike at others. Once a victim responds, the trolls will then cry foul and enlist the aid of their new found friends. However, one their hypocritical behavior is discovered they turn on their new friends that had just been defending them.

Gutless behavior by persons who have low self-esteem that want to drag people down to their level.

Known Trolls and Stalkers need not respond to this entry - your messages will be removed if deemed offensive.

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Managing Troll infestations
1. Ignore trolls whenever possible.
2. When ignoring does not work, report persistent trolls to the admins.
3. If warnings/bannings do not work; engagement may be necessary. (see 4-7)
4. Honesty is the best policy; do not lie or exaggerate - stick to the facts.
5. Acknowledge inadvertent compliments with a thank you - take the high road and be objective.
6. Admit if you make a mistake or commit an error - the facts are your friend when engaging a troll.
7. Be alert that the trolls will lie or use omission and will attempt to paint you as a troll - persevere and be patient history and the facts are on your side.
8. Go back to ignore mode. Make sure the trolls are not on your favorites list - leave the stalking to them.
9. Always remain patient. Trolls are pathetic creatures that merit pity not anger.

Hope this helps those of you with a troll infestation.

Veritas vos Liberabit

 



















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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2011 8:38 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

As you can see, two trolls have come out into the open.

First they played a version of the "Bret Favre":

 

Say What You Will Bar and Grill

December 23, 2011 8:05 pm


He got his recognition for the month. Time to ignore again.  BTW. Kinda Ironic that my post was deleted on a blog stating that they don't Warning Troll!   LOL.    

Say What You Will Bar and Grill

December 23, 2011 8:24 pm


I agree...time to just ignore em......like they do to em on the other bar thread.

Not 15 minutes went by after saying they would ignore this blog but they could not resist the urge to return.

As you can see thewy are incapable of lettng things go. Ravensmanaic attempts to list a bunch of posts claiming that I changed each one. Where I could have simply been replying the same post from another person. This is one of the tricks the trolls use to try to gain sympathy from other posters. Does not work on me and will not work on the people that you initially hoodwinked but subsequently discovered your true nature.

You can also see that the first poster takes the role of the alpha troll to the subservient second troll who chimes in quick agreement so as not to offend the dominant troll.




Since: Sep 24, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2011 8:21 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

The rolls and stalkers have now began a pattern of harrassment by consistently changing the title of the thread to pester the regulars
This I find  alittle misleading......so I did some research and found this....a little disturbing as to changing the thread title.

You have posted quite a few times on the Say What you Will Bar and Grill thread.

December 21, 2011 at 1209pm.....you changed the thread title to We are Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  113pm......you changed the thread title to We are Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  154pm......you changed the thread title to We are Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  156pm......you changed the thread title to We are Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  554pm......you changed the thread title to Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  548pm......you changed the thread title to Justin Bieber's Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  550pm......you changed the thread title to Justin bieber's Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  607pm......you changed the thread title to Justin Biebers Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  754pm......you changed the thread title to Got Ripped offl Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  756pm......you changed the thread title to Say stupid things Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  801pm......you changed the thread title to Warning Trolls Bar and Grill
December 21, 2011 at  806pm......you changed the thread title to Say stupid things Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  113am......you changed the thread title to uranediot's Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  135am......you changed the thread title to uranediot's Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  754am......you changed the thread title to Uranediotsl Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  914am......you changed the thread title to Uranediot's Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  941am......you changed the thread title to uranediot's Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  954am......you changed the thread title to Uranediot's Bar and Grill
December 22, 2011 at  957am......POST DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR

So seeing as you claim people who do these type things are TROLLS.....would this also put you into this catagory?




Toxic Dwarf
Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: December 23, 2011 8:13 pm
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2011 7:10 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

So we have learned about thread denial tactics and how trolls use multiple ID's to their advantage.

Other ploys are what we can call the "Eddie Haskell" and the "Bret Favre".

One stalker who has chosen to post on this blog followed me onto an off topic thread that most people used for amenable social interaction. Neither myself nor my stalker was known by the regulars. In the beginning, my stalker managed to befreind a number of the regulars on the thread and had one of his cohorts join him. These regulars defended my styalker and perceived me to the aggressor since they did not have the history of the stalker following me from thread to thread.

I made the mistake of defending myself and going into a tit for tat with my pest. This began to frustrate the regulars and many considered the stalker a freind - not realizing that he was pulling an Eddie Haskell on them. (Eddie Haskell was a character on the old Leave it to Beaver). He basically would ingratiate himself to Mrs Cleaver who did not see through his false niceties. Over time, the regulars who had welcomed this shallow character into their thread discovered that he was playing them all along and began to call him out for his trollish behavior.

Once he was outted - the troll then stated that he was craeting his own thread and would not be ever be back to post on their thread. I let a few of the regulars know that his self-imposed departure would not last more than 72 hours. In fact, he was back within 48 hours thus proving my point. He has done the Bret Favre at least three times now each time threatening to leave - but just cannot bring hmself to stay away. The troll also has a shorter version of the Bret Favre where he will say he is leaving but then must post another - this is less a concious ploy than a simple manifestation of his paranoia and obsession - he must have the last word and will monitor a thread for some time even when not posting to see if there is any mention of he or his troll friends.

So, as you can see the trolls and stalkers engage in behavior that can provoke anger but actually should be felt sorry for. Although they act like children some claim to be adults.


PADAK
Since: May 1, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:46 pm
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Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:32 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

How do you know who asked the administrator to remove the post? You are placing a lot of blame on this one person when it appears that you have no evidence to support it. 
Because you and the other stupid trolls boast about it. Laughing  You idiots are easy to identify when you gloat about your supposed victories.

One of your pet phrases is "winning" - that is oh so Charlie Sheen. You have that type of delusional persona.



Sorry Toxic - I didn't get to read your post.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:27 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

Really? I feel sorry for you as NOBODY has responded to you.
I agree ... you are a NOBODY. Surprised



Since: Sep 24, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2011 6:06 pm
 

Trolls and Stalkers

We got engaged in a mild exchange but he usually depends on some of his friends to help him - none were posting any support. He quickly disengaged since he was losing the argument - here was our final exchange:


The troll disengages:
I gotta run now..

and my response:

and he runs away again - guess he did not have his buddies here to protect him. It is always better to be able to stand alone  and stick up for yourself othr than to rely on stronger personalities or running to the admins. But it is what it is. See you, hope you feel better.
Nothing dramatic - but the troll was embarassed and asked the admins to have this message removed from a thread where you are supposed to stay whatever you want.
I applaud this supposed TROLL for not taking the conversation any further than they did. They did the right thing in disengaging the conversation after they apparently saw it was going in a negative direction.

I don't know who this supposed TROLL is but it appears as though they did the right thing. As per you...the final exchange was clear that the supposed troll was leaving the thread I guess. Why did you feel the need to throw the barbs out to them when they clearly said " I gotta run now"?

You continued on with remarks like "and he runs away again" and "guess he did not have his buddies here to protect him". Clearly an attempt to bait the other party into a war of words that they were not interested in engaging in with you and were clearly interested in leaving the thread as they indicated. 

I applaud this supposed TROLL for leaving before things got out of hand. They did the right thing. Wikipedia clearly shows that a TROLL is....

In , a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, , or messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Sorry...but based on YOUR response to this person it is YOU who was trolling and not the person you were supposedly engaged in conversation with.

My one question would be.....How do you know who asked the administrator to remove the post? You are placing a lot of blame on this one person when it appears that you have no evidence to support it.  


ad1_Colts
Since: Dec 7, 2010
Posted on: December 23, 2011 5:43 pm
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Toxic Dwarf
Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: December 23, 2011 5:27 pm
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