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NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Posted on: March 4, 2011 4:28 pm
Edited on: March 4, 2011 4:34 pm
 
Posted by Bryan Fischer

The hot button issue of oversigning is no longer just being examined by the media, the NCAA is taking a closer look into the issue as well.

The Division I Football Issues Committee has agreed to monitor a recent rule limiting schools to signing 28 recruits to a National Letter of Intent (NLI). Coaches have only 25 scholarships per year to give out but may sign up to 28 in case several recruits do not qualify academically.

The hot button issue of oversigning becomes especially newsworthy when schools have to tell recruits that they are no longer welcome because there is not a scholarship available. South Carolina, for example, signed 31 players to a letter of intent in 2011. Coaches usually try to keep players committed to the school but will re-route them to a prep school for a year or grayshirt them by having them enroll in the spring.

According to the NCAA release, the administrator of the NLI, Susan Peal, says the NLI's governing body does not support the grayshirting policy some schools use. If a player is persuaded by a coach to grayshirt and does not wish to so, their letter of intent can be considered void and they may sign when another school.

The new rule on oversigning, 15.5.1.10.1, and the rise in ways around it are forcing the NCAA to take a serious look at the practices schools use when signing football players.

“This rule has only been in effect for one year, and we want to take some time to see if that’s the perfect number," NCAA Division I Football Committee Chair Nick Carparelli said. “Certainly, the committee will continue to monitor it, and we can re-evaluate to see if there is a more appropriate number if necessary.”

The NCAA is not the only group of people taking action to combat oversigning as several high school coaches are becoming proactive in trying to stop the practice by outright banning colleges from recruiting their kids if they oversign. South Lake High School (Groveland, Fla.) head coach Walter Banks banned South Carolina after one of his players, Jordan Montgomery, was told he could not enroll because of the numbers crunch.

“I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says,” Banks told The State newspaper.

The NCAA also issued a staff interpretation on a rule which clarified that schools may not give a prospect a scholarship indirectly, such as through a coach or a friend. Players cannot receive any written scholarship offer prior to August 1st of their senior year but often receiver verbal offers from coaches.

Comments

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: March 8, 2011 5:53 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Revoke the NCAA tax-exempt status...



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: March 8, 2011 5:51 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Revove the NCAA tax-exempt status. I pay 25% in Federal taxes, but the NCAA is tax-exempt? The Godfather couldn't run the NCAA better.



Since: Aug 26, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2011 11:25 am
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

I can't seem to muster up any indignation over this oversigning issue. These coaches are paid (well paid I would say) to put together the best football team they possibly can. They know for a fact that not everyone they offer a scholarship to is going to actually be available come spring, whether through academic ineligiblity, injury or otherwise. It happens every year, so it is predictable to some degree, even if it is not perfectly predictable. So, they sign more players than they have slots, knowing for a fact, based on well-established precedent, that not all those players are going to show. In order to help out, they utilize accepted and legal methods of shuffling the numbers, such as early enrollment or gray-shirting. Since it is not a perfect science, every now and then, but I would suggest rarely, someone gets left out. But they don't get let out without any options, and from what I have read it seems as if the coaches are pretty upfront about that situation. Certainly there seems to be more animosity about the issue from outsiders rather than from players. Tressel has admitted that he essentially self-imposes scholarship reductions on his football team by NOT taking into account the fact that all of their signees won't qualify. That seems particularly moronic, and I think if I was paying him to put together the best possible team, I would be a little upset that he is willingly handicapping the team instead. Of course, perhaps that explains why OSU is so consistently over-rated, but can't seem to actually follow through.



Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2011 3:22 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

BTW, Saban's way of dealing with this is to grey shirt or not offer scholarships on or just before signing day.

Thanks for proving to eveyone here that you don;t actually have a clue as to what you are talking about...great job.

The kids that have had to greyshirt with Alabama have known ahead of time that it was possible and in some cases highly likely. I can post severals links to prove that several players have known and comitted anyway. YOU on the other hand will not be able to find ONE, just ONE, link that has a player saying he did not know he would have to Greyshirt.



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2011 12:17 am
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

If they are early entry, they do not count for the fall class.




Since: Sep 5, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2011 9:54 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

I just LOVE the introduction:  "The hot button issue of oversigning is no longer just being examined by the media, the NCAA is taking a closer look into the issue as well."

I swear, Mike Slime has GOT to have "videos" on guys like Emmert and Brand.  Seriously, the media cries about it SO THEN the NCAA wants to get involved?!?!?

I mean, they keep "naming" rules after SEC coaches but none of them ever get slammed and of course the funniest part of it all is that every school in the conference calls every other school in the conference "the biggest cheaters." 

And before any of you start crying about my commentary answer this question... how many of you would want your daughter to marry some of these model citizens, otherwise known as "student-athletes"???  Or how many of you would run to hire some of these guys at your own company???  Yup, that's what I figured. 

It would all be much funnier, if it all weren't so sad. 



Since: Mar 6, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2011 8:04 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Everyone's all concerned about the players getting misled but no one seems to mind if a player commits to a school during the summer and then decommits right before signing day, thus leaving that school without a player at that position. Oversigning protects a school in case something like that happens or in case players don't qualify. So it's a two way street.



Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2011 6:54 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Just did a bit more research...and you're right.  The question really is: do these players really know they will be grey shirted before they enter a program?  In some cases I would say yes....others, not so much.  My apologies for the jab.  I would like to see just how many students per program actually get grey shirted every year, how many get released due to disciplinary reasons, injuries, and how many get dropped because a school ran out of scholarships, etc.  I think that would be a good indicator of how truly manipulative these programs (including alabama) really are.   



Since: Dec 28, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2011 5:43 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

I never said the Vols weren't as guilty as most SEC teams. Re-read my post. No one should be able to exceed the limit without applying and receiving an exception from the NCAA. This would do away with all over signing and the infamous grey shirt policy.  BTW, Saban's way of dealing with this is to grey shirt or not offer scholarships on or just before signing day.



Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2011 1:45 pm
 

NCAA taking a closer look at oversigning

Can you name one student Saban gave a scholarship to...then yanked it after national signing day due to a lack of scholarships?  You're the typical Tennesee fan...oh, di dyou know that Tennessee had 27 recruits sign letters of intent in 2011, 31 recruits in 2010, and 31 in 2007.   


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