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Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

Posted on: April 18, 2011 1:59 pm
Edited on: April 18, 2011 6:26 pm
A few feet to his right or left was all that separated Vancouver Canucks forward Raffi Torres from another suspension for a blindside hit.
Torres caught an unsuspecting Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Brent Seabrook up high during the second period, a collision that drew an interference minor. But the NHL decided to take no action on Monday and league disciplinarian Colin Campbell explained in a statement why that was: 
"When Rule 48 (Illegal Check to the Head) was unanimously adopted by the General Managers in March 2010, there was no intention to make this type of shoulder hit to the head illegal. In fact, at that time, we distributed a video to all players and teams that showed a similar hit on a defenseman by an attacking forward coming from the opposite direction behind the net and stated that this is a 'legal play'.

"This hit meets none of the criteria that would subject Torres to supplemental discipline, including an application of Rule 48: he did not charge his opponent or leave his feet to deliver this check. He did not deliver an elbow or extended forearm and this hit was not 'late'."

Seabrook, for one, said Monday there should have been another ban in the offing, according to CSN Chicago's Tracey Myers:
Asked if he was surprised Torres didn’t get a suspension on the hit, Seabrook said, “yep.”

“With his history I think that hit deserves a suspension. Not going to complain about that. It’s a fast game. Things happen quickly. You have a split second to make a decision. He wasn’t trying to hit me in the head but at the same time if they’re not going to suspend somebody for that I just don’t understand that.”

“I think he kept his elbow in but he hit the head first,” Seabrook continued. “As far as I’m concerned that’s the only thing I felt. The rest of my body’s feeling the rest of it today. Whether or not he was targeting (my head) he made contact with the head first.”

Here’s a look at the hit. Seabrook was knocked out of the game briefly after another check by Torres later in the period of the Canucks’ 3-2 victory over the ‘Hawks, although Seabrook returned for the third. The Canucks lead the series, 3-0. 

Torres was playing in his first contest since he was suspended four games for a hit on Edmonton Oilers forward Jordan Eberle on April 5.

Blackhawks coach Joel Quennville, according to CSN Chicago, took more issue with the fact his team wasn't given a major penalty for the collision.
“I have no problem with that as far as the league views it. They know the standards, they know the criteria. They do a good job with that. The call on the ice is where we got hurt the most,” coach Joel Quenneville said. “It should’ve been a major penalty because he didn’t touch the puck. Hit like that you could be exposed to severe injuries and that’s the intent of a major call.”

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Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: April 21, 2011 1:13 pm

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

Come on man we're still in it. We need a huge win tonight in Van to get it back to the mad house. I wouldn't even care if we won the next series if we could come back and beat the Cuntyucks. Well i guess it would be against Detroit so i would hate to lose to them. HOSSA daddy needs to pick it up and if Kane and Toews start to find the net it could get interesting. Just need to come out and blast there "d" hard and quick. Bring it back to the Mad House

Since: Sep 9, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:32 pm

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

Hawks fans, let's face it. We're done. Kane, Hossa, Seabrook, Keith -- none of the big names have realized the playoffs have started. They will be swept tonight.  This isn't the same team as last year.

With that said, I hope John Scott goes out and busts his stick over the head of that assbag Torres.

If Beavis Bettman won't do the Hawks justice, take the law into your own hands.

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:04 am

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

Can't wait to see Scott kick this guys A$$. The Hawks are pretty much done which sucks being a Hawks fan but we did win it last year and i guess you can't win every year. Anyways back to Scott i believe the dude is 6-8 like 260 he's defiantly getting into a fight at some point tonight. Can wait me and my bud light along with a little early 4-20 present should set the night off right.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 9:55 am

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

If Adolf Goodell, oops I mean ROGER HITLER wasn't busy destroying the NFL, Bettman would easily be the worst commissioner in any of the four major U.S. Sports.

ha ha ha classic rant!

Since: Apr 10, 2010
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:17 am

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

SUSPENSION ???,  there can't be a suspension, whats this talk of a suspension,  NOT in this sport, or any others, the way its been, someone could probably go kill someone, and they would have to wait until the PLAYOFFS were over to get their hand slapped.  

Since: Oct 1, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 7:30 am

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

You guys are hockey retarded. Torres hit him square and Seabrook was looking behind him.  Torres didn't come around him.  Seabrook was travelling in the opposite direction he was looking which is a cardinal sin, looking for the puck.  Torres was on his way to deliver the hit.

I am all for eliminating the blind side hit but a player looking over his shoulder doesn't make it blind side.

First and foremost Seabrook didn't protect himself. He wouldn't have looked back for the puck in the neutral zone, why would he do it behind the net?

His crying to the media is brutal as well.  He has grown up knowing not to look for the suicide pass. He made the mistake.

Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2011 7:33 pm

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2011 7:06 pm

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

I think you have to look at this hit the following way:

  Under the new rules, this hit has to have resulted in a suspension.  It was a blind-side hit.  It was obviously contact with the head.  There isn't a person who saw the hit who didn't think initially that Seabrook might be hurt as a result of the hit. 
      Under the current rules, this equates to a suspension in every single instance.  There are no logical arguments against this that are not in direct contradiction with all the suspensions we have witnessed to date for hits to the head.

   However, under the old hockey rules, this hit was a great hit... a perfect example of laying someone out who wasn't looking at the area he was skating in to.  Such blind-side hits, where the hit-recipient is looking for the puck to come to him in "suicide pass" fashion were always part of the game from Minor Peewee to the NHL (I grew up playing in a league that had contact for all ages, and I am only 40...).  Wendell Clark is a hero in many eyes because of such hits!  Scott Stevens provided Don Cherry with a seemingly endless line of videotape to put into the "rock'em'sock'em hockey" series, all for Stevens' victims to watch as they tried to recover from being devastated!  Even Pat Quinn knocked out Bobby Orr with such a hit!  The list of such hits is endless... and they were celebrated more than many goals!

   I heard that people have said that this spot behind the net is a "free hitting area"... what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks is that supposed to mean!?  This is hockey... the only place you can't hit someone is when they are on the bench!  I am very surprised at such a suggestion about "hitting areas" and "non-hitting areas"... to me, this is about as legitimate a justification for no suspension as the officials saying "well, we don't really like Seabrook"!  It's simply a moot point.

   So... to those arguing from a Chicago-Fan or a Vancouver-Fan perspective, it's hard to deny that the hit is a suspendable offence today, but it would have been a celebrated and legal hit before the recent rules.  Are the new rules correct?  I don't know... that is a separate blog.  It is obviously true the players are much faster and much larger now.  Howie Meeker was a goon in his day at 165 pounds.  Wendell Clark was an animal at 185 pounds.  They are average size in today's NHL at 215 pounds of constantly-at-the-gym muscle... and they can skate like in no other era.  Break out Einstein's equations relating to velocity, mass, and energy, and it's easy to understand the results of such impacts.

   The rules don't change depending on the setting, though, and right now there is endless precedent of this being a suspendable hit.

[PS - Happy 24th Anniversary of the best game I ever watched!  The Isles vs Wash 7 period game... with LaFontaine scoring to end it!  I could not have cared less for either team, but myself and 3 friends watched that game in total and complete disbelief at the quality of scoring chances, the incredible saves by both goalies, the never-ending effort of all players, and the almost crying disappointment (for us as fans... the players had no more fluid in the bodies to cry...) when the game actually ended!  It was that ethereal!]




Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: April 18, 2011 6:53 pm

Canucks' Torres avoids suspension for big hit

I agree with shibbykaiyai, here.  The Hawks should just forget about getting justice from Campbell's office, and let Scott give Riff-Raffi the beating of a Hockey Lifetime.  Harsh?  Maybe, but it's better than waiting around until that cheap-shot artist ends somebody's career.  Hockey's a tough (and sometimes violent) sport, even when it's being played by the rules ---- there's no need whatsover for the actions of players like Torres, Cooke,  Gillies, or any other repeat offender.  I'm not even a Hawks fan, but I hope they jack this clown up, but Good.

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