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Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:10 pm
Edited on: April 19, 2011 2:12 pm

The verdict is already down on Steve Downie and Chris Kunitz from their Game 4 elbows to the head. Each player will be suspended for one game .

In Game 4, the Lightning's Downie flattened Pittsburgh's Ben Lovejoy on the boards behind the net. Lovejoy clearly wasn't aware of the hit coming and it came up high, a very dangerous combination.

A little later in the game, Kunitz threw a clear and undeniable elbow at the head of Tampa Bay's Simon Gagne. He was penalized on the play two minutes for elbowing. While the damage potential wasn't incredibly high, the intent is what matters here, and there's little way to say there was no intent to throw an elbow to the head.

The decision comes down a day after the NHL elected not to punish the Canucks' Raffi Torres for a questionable hit on Brent Seabrook of the Blackhawks, who will miss tonight's Game 4 in Chicago.

The hits are exactly what the league has been trying to eradicate in recent years. It's been a touchy subject with a lot of gray area, but anytime it seems clear there was an intentional shot to the head, the suspension is likely to follow.

In the playoffs there seems to be an uptick in the amount of the big, dangerous hits, something you can likely attribute to the playoff brand of hockey, a more physical and intense brand.

-- Brian Stubits


Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 12:34 pm

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

Dennis has some kind of man-love thing going on for Mario...Can't get off him...

Since: Dec 16, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2011 10:39 am

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

I figured Kunitz would get the 1 game suspension for his shot. Repeat offender, or not, he put his elbow out to clock someone in the head. I will say, that I'm surprised with the Downie suspension. Yes, he made a similar hit some years ago, but as similar as it was, things were different. The verbage used by Campbell during the Torres situation about hittig areas, Lovejoy (the recipient of the hit) acknowledged that it wasn't a head shot. It was a hard, illegal hit. But, I didn't think a suspension was going to come from it.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2011 10:05 am

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

Show me a quote from Lemieux regarding headshots.  The only quotes from Lemieux in the articles you posted are the ones that can be found on the link I posted.  The rest are "analysts" and writers doing the same thing that you and most others on this board are doing: twisting his statements following the Islanders game regarding needing to clean up the garbage in the league.  So if headshots are a part of that (and I think they are) then fine.  But from what I've seen Lemieux hasn't come out and made a direct quote regarding headshots. 

The only argument anyone makes is "Well Lemieux says the NHL needs to clean itself up, but allows a p.o.s. like Cooke to play on his team, so therefore he's a hypocrite."  If keeping a headhunter on the roster is hypocrisy, I guess the owner of teams like the Devils back when they had Scott Stevens (just for one example) is in the same boat. 

Since: Apr 9, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 8:44 am

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

And lucky, just because this is only a message board doesn't mean you HAVE to act like a moron.

I'm not sure that anyone has to act like a moron on here... but somehow it happens anyways.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2011 8:24 am

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece


No, Lemieux IS on record as a crusader against head shots specifically after what happened to Crosby. And I'm not the only one with the opinion that if he's going to take that stand then he should take it fully or not at all. Here's just a sampling I got from 2 minutes worth of Googling:

But it's pointless to keep arguing this with you guys. None of you can get past the "Hey, he's saying bad things about the Penguins - I must insult him and disregard anything he has to say!" stage. Whatever. Trying to get you to see the situation objectively is like trying to get my 6-year-old to understand why he needs to eat vegetables. It's not going to happen. If you're fine with the outcome here and think 1 game is perfectly reasonable for what Kunitz did then good for you. But don't come here bawling when somebody does the same thing to Crosby. Because a 1-game suspension is not something that's going to make someone think twice about doing it the future.

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2011 2:38 am

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

this is clearly another act towards mario and his statement earlier in season, how does a multi-offender get a 1 game suspension over a non repeat offender, kunitz deserves a 1 game suspension, but u suspend cooke (a multi offender)for 1st round and give downie a 1 game suspension whe he clearly left his feet and went for the head, and the guy fron vancouver nothing, yes i am biased towards penguins but these playoffs are turning into a joke when phantom calls are being made(and i havent watched any other series except pittsburgh) where someone is cross checked into a goalie and he gets called for goaltender interference. and now an equal suspension for these 2 players and not suspending another. alittel consistency is all i ask, in suspending people and on ice calls, im sure tampa fans will say 1st game was called bad, but i know you have watched the 2nd and 3rd games and are you saying it now? i know i am. 

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:54 pm

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

Pensfan37 hit the nail on the head.  Lemieux wasn't necessarily complaining about headshots, but rather the goonish tactics of those chumps from Long Island, particularly Trevor "I Have No Business Being In the NHL" Gillies.  Yes Lemieux did reference a headshot, but it was in regards to Gillies jumping and slamming his elbow into Eric Tangradi's temple (which, go figure, gave him a concussion), how that p.o.s. Gillies attacked a clearly unconscious Tangradi, and how Gillies proceeded to talk trash from the locker room runway. 

So all of you idiots saying "oh Mario said this and that" need to understand that using one statement, twisting it to fit your viewpoint, and using it as a means of getting a dig in at Mario, Kunitz, Sid, Cooke, etc. is not good use of logic, and instead is the message-board equivalent of tabloid journalism.  For those of you who will try to say I'm wrong, I've provided a link to the cbs version of the article regarding Mario's comments. 

Long story short, he wasn't talking about headshots, but about the goonery that went down that night and how Gillies' suspension wasn't nearly long enough.  But haters are gonna hate no matter what.  So flame on chumps.  Enjoy your startling brand of "logic." 

Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:26 pm

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

So how is behind the net with the puck  not a hitting area like Downie did, But Torres his Seabrook without the puck is?

The NHL makes no sense at all when it comes to this stuff.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:35 pm

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

I would think you Pens fans would be more sensitive to this kind of hit seeing as your demi-god Crosby is sitting out game after game WITH A CONCUSSION. And then his teammate and, presumably, his friend goes out and pulls something like that? And you think 1 game is OK? Alright then, just think about this: if someone does that to Crsoby when he comes back will you be OK with a 1-game suspension?

Since: Jun 2, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:27 pm

Kunitz, Downie suspended one game apiece

you make me laugh with the stupid shit you guys say on here

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