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Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

Posted on: May 15, 2011 2:46 am
Edited on: May 15, 2011 12:05 pm

Well, we're guaranteed one thing: one of two teams that have been carrying burdens of playoff disappointments will make the Stanley Cup Finals.

Both Vancouver and San Jose can probably understand each other's plight pretty well. The two squads have entered the last few postseasons with very high expectations, local fans dreaming of their organization's first Stanley Cup title, only to fall short of the Finals. San Jose has had perhaps the biggest label of playoff underachiever, but the Sharks were in the conference final last year. This is Vancouver's first trip since 1994, when it lost in seven games to Mark Messier's Rangers.

"It's always fun playing in the playoffs. I mean, it's the conference finals," Daniel Sedin said. "It's going to be extremely tough games. Everyone keeps saying that Nashville plays tight defensively. I think San Jose is equally as good defensively. They probably have more firepower up front. It's going to be a tough series, equally as tight."

Ironically enough, the top two seeds in the Western Conference have taken similar, albeit reversed, paths to get this far. In the first round it was the Canucks playing a Game 7 after holding a 3-0 lead on Chicago whereas the Sharks had the same scenario against Detroit in the second round, holding off the Red Wings in Game 7.

In the four games played between the two this season, the Canucks had plenty of success, taking seven of a possible eight points. The Sharks picked up three.

"It'll be interesting. We'll enter a series as the underdog. That hasn't happened before. Maybe there will be a little pressure taken off us there and we can go play free," Sharks coach Todd McLellan said.

Here's the breakdown:

Forwards: When you look at the list of players on both sides, you begin to understand real fast why these are the top two seeds in the West. With these two, it's really pick your poison. The Canucks have a Hart Trophy winner (Henrik Sedin last season) and one in the running this season (brother Daniel) and perhaps the hottest skater in hockey right now (Ryan Kesler). Going into Round 2 against Nashville, there were questions about how much would the Canucks score as the offense was struggling some and the Predators are stingy. For San Jose, the names Thornton, Pavelski, Marleau, Heatley, Setoguchi, Clowe and Couture are enough to scare any opponent. It's an elite and deep group of forwards the Sharks throw out on the ice. But much like Vancouver with the Sedin twins, the Sharks are looking for a little more production out of their top players, namely Marleau. The Sharks star was criticized by Jeremy Roenick among others during the series against the Red Wings, but perhaps his Game 7-clincing score will be the boost he needs to start producing like he does annually in the regular season.

Edge: Hate to cop out, but it's a push.

Defensemen: When you start looking at the two units, there is a troublesome stat/note for both. For San Jose, it's concerning that they surrendered 40-plus shots to the Red Wings in Games 3, 4, 6 and 7. That's asking a lot from your goaltender night in, night out, especially against a team with the skill of the Canucks. Vancouver, meanwhile, has had just one pairing of defensemen stay together through the whole of the first two rounds, luckily for them it's their top shutdown duo of Dan Hamhuis and Kevin Bieksa. When you compare the meaningful sample size of the regular season, you start to see an appreciable difference. The Canucks were the toughest defense to score on in the NHL at 2.20 goals against a game compared to San Jose's 2.54, good enough for 10th. Talking offensive production, the two teams look pretty similar with one standout racking up 50 points this season (Dan Boyle for the Sharks, Christian Ehrhoff in Vancouver) and a pretty steep drop off to the next.

Edge: Canucks

Goaltenders: Again, the two goalies, like the teams, have had similar postseasons so far. Both Roberto Luongo and Antti Niemi struggled mightily in their respective first-round series with each being pulled at one time. In the second round, however, each was spectacular, recording save percentages above .930 (.933 for Luongo, .931 for Niemi). Luongo was the center of a heaping of criticism for his play against Chicago, adding on to what has always been a subpar postseason resume. Perhaps that's behind him after he finally got past the conference semifinals for the first time in four tries. For Niemi, there's been no such perception problem when it comes to playoffs. With the series win over Detroit, Niemi is a perfect six-for-six after leading the Blackhawks to the Cup last year. Keep this one in mind: against the Canucks this season, Niemi was 1-2-1 with a 3.64 GAA and .896 save percentage. But also remember he beat the Canucks last year in the playoffs.

Edge: Ever-so-slightly to Canucks, Luongo.

Special teams: After detailing the firepower both teams possess, it should come as no surprise that these were the NHL's two most efficient power-play units. The Sharks are in a little rut with a man up coming out of the Detroit series as Devin Setoguchi's Game 7 tally was their only goal in the last 13 tries. It's worth noting, though, that the Sharks have five players on the roster who recorded nine goals or more with a man up compared to just two for the Canucks, so it's safe to say San Jose can throw two solid power-play lines on the ice. Perhaps the biggest mismatch in the series, though, comes in the battle between Vancouver's power play and San Jose's penalty kill. In that department, the Sharks were ranked 24th in the league this season at a 79.6-percent kill rate. In the playoffs it has been a little better, killing off 82.7 percent. Vancouver, meanwhile, has kept pretty consistent with its third-ranked regular-season penalty kill percentage of 85.7, including their current run of just one goal allowed in the last 26 short-handed attempts.

Edge: Canucks

Prediction: This was the better matchup of the two possibilities for the Canucks, not to mention they had to love the Wings pushing the Sharks to the limit and helping exhaust them before getting this series under way. Believe it or not, this is the first time the perennial playoff teams have met in the postseason. But as has been the norm in the West the last few weeks, expect every game to be close, with every loose puck being fought for with the utmost tenacity. Although the Canucks got almost every edge from me, the differences aren't large, except some when talking defense. I'm inclined to say the Canucks will prevail in six games.

-- Brian Stubits

Western Conference Finals
No. 1 Vancouver vs. No. 2 San Jose - Series Tied, 0-0
Date Site Time/Result
May 15 at VAN 8 p.m.  
May 18 at VAN 9 p.m.  
May 20 at SJ 9 p.m.  
May 22 at SJ 3 p.m.  
* May 24 at VAN 9 p.m.  
* May 26 at SJ 9 p.m.  
* May 28 at VAN 8 p.m.  

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Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 9:20 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

Yes, regular season stats are meaningless when it comes to predicting success in post season meetings. I remember when the Sharks had to play a team that they had a losing record against in the regular season. All the experts were saying that San Jose had no chance. Well, the experts were wrong. The Sharks not only had a chance they manhandled the opposing team. So much for regular season stats. Do I expect the same to happen now. Who knows. Both teams are known for underachieving. But at least one team will finally break out of its shell and eventually be crowned Stanley Cup champion.

Yes, I meant to write that. I'm not convicned that the Bruins or Lightning are battle-tested enough to defeat Vancouver or San Jose. Last I checked...teams that have a habit of sweeping early round playoff series usually are no match for teams that have had to fight and claw their way to a series win.

Of course, anything can happen in the playoffs and they do.

Since: Sep 8, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 8:04 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

really?  their 3-0-1 record against san jose this season didn't help their statistical edge?

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 7:18 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

When Ehrhoff played here, we called him "Air Head".  He could be counted on for two things, a dumb turnover at the blue line and a slap shot that missed the net by a mile.

Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 7:02 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

One thing that hasn't been pointed out that could be one big shimmer of hope for the Sharks is the Canucks gaping hole on the blueline named Christian Ehrhoff.  Most people are fooled by his numbers into thinking he's actually a good player, but the truth is I almost threw a party when he left the Sharks, and having watched him a number of times since he left, I'm still as happy as ever that he no longer wears teal.

Now instead of being a detriment to the Sharks, he can finally help us!  The Canucks have 3 SH goals against, I'm guessing Ehrhoff probably had a hand in at least 2 of those.  Remember him coughing up the puck to Logan Couture during the regular season? Classic Ehrhoff.  Anyway, I'm pretty excited to see the Sharks use that chink in Vancouvers armor to their advantage.

Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: May 15, 2011 6:55 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

I know my Sharks are being underrated most places, but I also know the Canucks are very, very good.  I do believe the Sharks have a decent chance in this series, but I'm not going to ignore the obvious truth that Vancouver has a better team.

I have no doubt Jumbo will continue and even improve his stellar play in these playoffs, and I wouldn't even be surprised to see Marleau's stick ignite as well.  However, I also expect the Sedins to wake up, and I'm afraid of what that would mean for the Sharks.  Both Thornton and Couture are very good 2 way centermen, but that may not be enough if both Kesler and the Sedins are rolling.  The only significant advantage for the Sharks should be their 3rd line but even that's iffy because while the Pavleski, Mitchell, Wellwood trio is far more skilled than Lapierre and his linemates, the diminutive size of our 3rd liners could be an issue against the hulking Vancouver 3rd liners.

I think the Defense will be a lot closer than people realize.  Vlasic, White, and Demers are all playing superb playoff hockey that can match nearly any other player still in the playoffs right now, and Boyle and Murray are... well... Boyle and Murray, how could you go wrong?

The issue for the Sharks will be Niemi.  He's great on that first shot, possibly the best in the league, but he kicks out a ton of rebounds, and he kicks them most frequently into the most dangerous areas of the ice.  On top of that, the Sharks have struggled to manage Niemi's plethora of rebounds, and those loose pucks have been the cause of the overwhelming majority of goals against SJ.  Honestly, if Niemi held pucks, the Sharks would be almost impossible to score against.  Hell the reason Detroit was able to get so many shots against the Sharks was less about the D, and more about Niemi's rebound control leading to every shot counting for 4 as the puck bounced around the crease for a minute or 2!

That kind of loose change against a team as offensively powerful as the Canucks will kill you, no question.

IF the Sedins don't show up, Sharks will win, no question in my mind.  But if they do show up, somebody from the Sharks will need to come up with a pretty legendary playoff performance to match it.

Canucks in 6 is probably the safest bet, although eliminating the Sharks at home is not easy to do (just ask Detroit) but as a Sharks fan, I'm praying for Sharks in 7.

Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: May 15, 2011 6:05 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

This is going to be another great series in the Western Conference. I see this series going the full seven games with the winner being San Jose(damn it hurts to say that being a Red Wings fan). The Stanley Cup is going to be San Jose vs. Tampa Bay and I see that possible matchup going at least six games with San Jose being the Stanley Cup winners. Both the Sharks and Canucks were push to the brink of elimination but came out on top so I don't expect anything less than stellar for this matchup.

Since: Oct 8, 2010
Posted on: May 15, 2011 4:19 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

Should be a very good series.    The Sharks had difficulty against the Wing's sustained offensive pressure. If not for Niemi's stellar performance the outcome of the series could have been different. The question is, can Niemi play at that level for another series? If so, the Sharks should be in the thick of it.  But I expect the Canucks to prevail.

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: May 15, 2011 3:30 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

I agree, Canucks should win this series but how can you bet against Niemi. He hasn't lost a playoff series yet, though it is a short playoff career this being his 2nd go around. The depth of the Nucks should shine thru in the end. I did hear from a sportscaster with the previous playoff choke jobs these 2 teams have had recently. "This could be the first time in history both teams could find a way to lose the Western Conference finals at the same time" Obviously tongue and cheek but pretty funny. Nucks in 6 as well, though pulling for the Sharks

Since: Jul 10, 2007
Posted on: May 15, 2011 1:10 pm

Preview: No. 1 Canucks vs. No. 2 Sharks

Chicago was not healthy until the end of the year and though they lack their prior depth, they are hardly mediocre.  Kesler is going to dominate Thornton and the Sharks D doesn't compare to the depth of the Canucks corps. 

Canucks in 6. 

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