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Report: Blue Jackets talk to Flyers about Carter

Posted on: June 9, 2011 3:16 pm
Edited on: June 9, 2011 3:30 pm

To make way for Ilya Bryzgalov and to help shore up their goaltending problems, the Flyers will have to clear space on the roster. That's a given. According to the Columbus Dispatch, the Blue Jackets could be willing to help Philly shed some salary by chasing Jeff Carter.

Multiple NHL sources have told The Dispatch that the Blue Jackets and Philadelphia Flyers have discussed a trade that would send Flyers center Jeff Carter, an All-Star in 2009, to Columbus for a top-six forward and the No. 8 overall pick in this year's draft. That top-six forward, presumably, is 21-year-old Blue Jackets winger Jake Voracek, a restricted free agent.

Though it could occur sooner, it's likely such a trade wouldn't be completed until the first round of the entry draft is held on June 24 in St. Paul, Minn.

While the Flyers are still under the cap at this point, if they are to sign Bryzgalov to a deal he's looking for -- in the $6 million-per-year range -- they will need to do some trimming. Carter becomes an obvious target. The first reason being he has an annual salary of $5.27 million. Secondly, they are tied down to Carter for a long time as his contract doesn't run out until 2020-21. Third, he doesn't have the no-trade clause that would hamper a deal. Add in the fact he has plenty of ability (see his team-leading 36 goals this season) to intrigue teams despite his massive deal, you can understand why Carter is the target to ship. While Philadelphia probably isn't keen on shipping one of its best players, it's a move they need to make and Carter is the most logical.

The deal from Columbus' end is a bit of a risk, tying your organization to one player for so long. But it's a franchise in need of a jolt. Bringing a player like Carter, who is just 26, and pairing him with Rick Nash could help attract attention to a team that has made the postseason only once in 10 seasons. The nature of the game forces the hands of teams like Columbus to have to go for the bold move to make it. Sometimes it pans out, sometimes it doesn't. Adding a consistent 30-plus goal scorer in his prime, the chances of it panning out are pretty good.

Carter, while he has been outstanding in Philadelphia, has been a bit maligned by the team's faithful for his lackluster postseason showings. In the playoffs he has 21 points in 47 career games and a minus-14.

It has also been suggested by USA Today's Kevin Allen that Florida could be a place for the Flyers to look to shed salary. The Panthers are well below the salary floor at this point and will have to spend just to get there.

-- Brian Stubits


Since: Dec 1, 2010
Posted on: June 11, 2011 8:51 pm

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Why would Buffalo take on a 10 year contract of creampuff who doesn't crash the nets despite being 6 foot 4. Buffalo's trying to shake their "soft label" so I don't see why Buffalo would take on another Spring No Show like Carter.

Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2011 6:13 pm

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Buffalos draft pick isn't as high as Columbus in the 8 spot. I'd like to see the Oilers make a play for this guy but not if the 1st overall is in play. If the Flyers trade Carter they'll want a high draft pick to play in the little leagues for a couple of years until somebody else can be moved.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: June 11, 2011 5:07 pm

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How in the heck are the Sabres not offering up the house to get this guy.  He's everything they are looking for.  I'd offer picks and players and get it done.

Since: Jan 11, 2008
Posted on: June 10, 2011 11:33 pm

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No no no - no Carter to Columbus. If he leaves the Flyers, Minnesota should get him. I've thought he would be a great addition to them.

Since: Feb 3, 2010
Posted on: June 10, 2011 5:29 pm

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For Bills/Sabers fan guy: (For reference purpose)



I think they can shed some of their dead weight, free up money, sign Ilya, and not have to move Carter in the process. Say what you want about his dismal playoffs over the last two years, but a 35-40 goal scorer is not always easy to replace. Yes, I expect Carter and Richards to step it up during the most important part of the season, but look at last year too. It it weren't for Leino, Giroux, Briere (and at times) Gagne I'm not sure they make that glorius run.

There's ways for them to acquire money back...not resigning Leino, Zhervdev, Boucher, O'Donnell, Boyton and (hopefully) not Carcillo gives them cap space. I would think Laperriere officially retires which saves them more money. They probably bring back Nodl and Powe, and acquire some grizzled role players. And have enough under the cap to sign Bryz.

Don't get me wrong an 8th round pick would be nice, but I'm not to familiar with this year's crop of rookies so I'm not too certain whom could come in and make an immediate impact. Especially if they went offense. More than likely they'd select a defenseman, and they rarely light up the scoreboard in their first year. Secondly, I'm not down on Voracek, but he's a RFA that, of course, isn't going to command Carter-type money. But he will still need a contract none the less, which is just one more contract that Homer would need to worry about.

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: June 10, 2011 5:01 pm

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I hate to defend Kris Versteeg but people are WAY to hard on him and the last analysis is great but your missing 2 MAJOR points, 1st Flyers record was not good after Versteeg trade but how many of those games was Chris Pronger missing??? Last I saw it wasn't Versteeg's shot which broke Prongers hand. 2nd as far as Toronto's record is concerned at what point during this 14-12 miraculous, Versteeg lead by trading him, turnaround was contributed to the fact the Maple-Leafs stopped playing musical goalies and put Reimer in there?? ok i'll tell you that Reimer was 20-10-1 and started playing about begining of January.

Let me add another point, Versteeg was on 3rd team and 3rd system in 3 years and he was pretty darn good in finals against Flyers if you recall. Remember when Laviolette came in 2 years ago how lost the Flyers looked for about a month before SLOWLY getting it together in time for the playoffs in Lavy's system. Lavy's system is TUFF to learn, give the kid a freakin chance to learn it before you condemn him, yes he did not play well, NO the Flyers flameout and Maple-Leafs modest turnaround was NOT HIS FAULT.

Flyers record bad because no Pronger and bad goaltending
Maple-Leafs record improved because they got goaltending for once.....see a pattern yet?

Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: June 10, 2011 1:23 pm

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Flyers ought to make any deal for Carter contingent on the other team taking Versteeg.  That guy blows and will only hurt us.  Look at Toronto's record before and after he was traded.  Then look at the Flyers record before and after they got him.  Flyers, 13 - 17 and Toronto 14 - 12.  Before Verstinks the Flyers were around 34 - 8 or so.  Toronto was the worst team in the league for much of the year.  Almost made the playoffs after Vercrap was traded. 

Since: Nov 5, 2007
Posted on: June 10, 2011 1:10 pm

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My point about Voracek not being a top 6 guy was based more on every franchise in the NHL having a different level of talent in their top 6. The expression "top 6" used by the author of the article to me was a bit irresponsible and thats why I included that part about Voracek, so it certainly wasn't to say I don't respect his talent.

I get what the article meant by implying that Voracek was one of Columbus' top 6 forwards, but my thing is that doesn't mean you're a true top 6 forward in the NHL. For me, when anyone says something like (for any player): he's a top 6 forward, or he's a top line scorer... that means you're saying he would automatically be valued there on any team. ex: You could say Crosby is a top line scorer in the NHL because every NHL team would immediately put him there if they had him.

For Voracek to match up against the current top 6 for the Flyers, that would be saying he ranks with and/or above the following:


Could you argue that he's better than any one of those guys? Maybe Hartnell. But for all of his shortcomings, Hartnell, who is still only 29, has registered a 30/30 season; Voracek is yet to eclipse 20 goals. Understandably, he's younger and hasn't fully developed with only 3 seasons. But the Flyers are focusing on the NOW not the THEN with who they acquire. We already have enough developing players, another is not needed. And back to my point, Voracek would not upgrade your talent in the top 6 for the Flyers; in fact, if we put him there, he would down-grade it, because despite how much people want to knock Carter (me too sometimes), the guy scores, and his absence would be tough (someone on here made a GREAT point about that with Knuble).

On a side note, this conversation led me to look into more about Voracek, and he looks like someone Columbus shouldn't be dangling in a trade anyway. The guy looks to have a bright future in the league. Columbus should keep him, unless there's more to him (like a Zherdev) than we know. Columbus is a team that needs to grow around Nash, and that doesn't happen when you trade the productive youth away.

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: June 10, 2011 12:51 pm

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Playing good in the regular season is pretty much meaningless unless you can come out and perform at that same level in the playoffs.  Carter could never put up any kind of performance in the playoffs and I think dumping him is the right move.  Bob might develop eventually but now is not the time.  Now is the time to go out and win a cup and I think Bryzgalov gives them the best chance to do that right now.  This also helps the Flyers escape from a contract that was way too large in the first place. 

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: June 10, 2011 12:37 pm

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hartnell .. ? if anyone wants him like that 1 sabres fan - take him off our hands for 100 buffalo wings and 2 cases of beer. i doubt hartnell's worth that much, but just take him !

carter for the goalie and the 8th pick overall and the young kid - cya jeff. hey richards, you're next on the hit list you stiff !

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