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Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Posted on: July 25, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: July 25, 2011 12:43 pm

By Brian Stubits

Maybe there is something to the idea that the Jeff Carter and Mike Richards trades out of Philadelphia were really about more than the hockey.

That's the inclination I have after seeing what Philadelphia Daily News' Dan Gross reported on Monday.

Two unnamed players said that the Flyers front office was disappointed in Carter and Richards' longstanding party lifestyle and that teammates were concerned about the pair's drinking.

Shortly after his arrival in December 2009, coach Peter Laviolette instituted what players came to call the "Dry Island." Laviolette asked team members to commit to not drinking for a month, and each player was asked to write his number on a locker room board as a pledge. No. 17 (Carter) and No. 18 (Richards) were absent from the board on the first Dry Island, as well as the estimated five more times the policy was instituted.

In a phone interview Thursday, Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren confirmed that Richards and Carter hadn't put their numbers on the board, but said there had been others who declined. "We carry 23 players and there wasn't 23 numbers up there."

It's not as if this comes out of left field. There had long been plenty of talk about Carter (shipped to the Columbus Blue Jackets) and Richards (traded to the Los Angeles Kings) being fans of having fun. So for those who believed the scuttlebutt, this will add more fuel to their fire.

But Holmgren and Carter's agent say the partying is a moot point; the moves were all about the game.

Holmgren was "really upset that this is out there. That's our locker room. Our inner sanctum. Our board. Someone's crossing a line here," in discussing the Dry Island.

Holmgren also said it was "preposterous" that partying was factored into the decision to trade Richards and Carter. "As far as Mike and Jeff are concerned, we made two good hockey trades that will better suit us now and for the future. Columbus is happy, L.A. is happy and the Flyers are happy with the deal."

Carter's agent, Rick Curran, told us it was "bull----" to suggest that the two were traded because of their partying. "You're telling me a number of accusations [that] they are out partying and not focused on hockey. For someone to suggest that behind doors without having the balls to come out publicly, consider it for what it is," Curran told us.

This could be a situation where both are telling the truth. Perhaps the two former Flyers did have a penchant for partying and that could have had nothing to do with their exits. Anything is possible. But none of it is helping the perception of either player, especially in Richards' case as he did wear the C in Philly.

Personally, I thought Richards and Carter got bum raps on their way out of town, taking some parting shots about the organization not going any farther with them. Seems to me they did all right for themselves, reaching the Stanley Cup Finals with, to put it nicely, subpar goaltending on one occasion and helping the Flyers into annual contenders.

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Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2011 6:44 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

This stuff is coming from the locker room and it's probably the biggest backstabber and b!tch in the room...Chris Pronger. Everbody knows that Pronger and Richards butted heads and disliked each other. The Flyers made a big mistake trading the and talented Richards for an aging, can't stay healthy and probably only has 2 good years left Pronger. If they were the same age, and not a decade apart, I'd say good pick but it's tough to replace a skill set like Richards. I can see a big letdown with the turnover and unproven guys they brought in.

Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 6:22 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

not so much luke haha...but i'm not afraid to admit when someone is attractive whether they are male or female...

oh and i disagree that you need beer googles to look at girls from philly...and i think iconmatt is way off when he says jersey girls are better looking...eww is all i can say to that!

Since: Mar 17, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 6:16 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Too many Flyers hanging out for last call it seems, can you say dysfunctional family.

Since: Feb 10, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 5:17 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Marchmont could drink these two under the table

who the hell is Marchmont?

if this is how teams are operating there will be a lot of guys moved. as long as they performed on the ice which they did this crap for TMZ. Id love to have either one

Since: Apr 10, 2007
Posted on: July 26, 2011 4:33 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

this is absolutely a true story.... so are all the stories of the broadstreet bullies doing just the same.  too bad times have changed and this type of behavour is looked differenty on today.  regardless, the flyers are a much better team without them after both trades. richards lost his heart and grit in the playoffs this year and carter is an injury case.... glad to see them both gone.  out with the old in with the new!

Since: Apr 30, 2007
Posted on: July 26, 2011 3:23 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Marchmont could drink these two under the table. Go B's!

Since: Jul 26, 2011
Posted on: July 26, 2011 3:17 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

It is 100% fact that the fly guys traded them because of drinking and partying.  Same reason the traded upshall and emery, was also in the party circle.  I heard this 2-3 years ago from a guy who spent good time around the rink. honest to say i didn't believe him for 2 seconds.  turns out...

Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: July 26, 2011 2:56 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

This story is laughable ... Philly came close two seasons ago then got pummeled by the Bruins the next year.   They over-reacted and thought they could land a guy like Stamkos by trading away their top talent and freeing up salary cap space.   When that blew up,  they realized they screwed up and they had to change plans. What they ended up with was and old Jagr and some unproven younger guys that might be good 2 or 3 years down the line.   They messed up bigtime so now they have to come up with this cock-n-bull story of why they got rid of all these guys that were in their prime now.   Hilarious  .... and what will be more hilarious is if Philly doesn't make the playoffs next year after doling out stupid money and what 9 years to a goalie that is barely above average.  Bwaaa hahaahaaa   

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: July 26, 2011 2:43 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Gotta love the management.  These guys drink to much, lets trade our entire offense away and overreact to how bad our goaltending was.  Sure next season we'll lower our goals against, lets ignore the fact we just traded 150 points away.  I'm sure some guys that are "future" prospects will just take over their roles.  HA.  Philly is gonna be TERRIBLE next year.  

Since: Jun 30, 2011
Posted on: July 26, 2011 12:26 pm

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

I'm guessing you've never been to Mahanoy City, Pa. 

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