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Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Posted on: July 25, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: July 25, 2011 12:43 pm

By Brian Stubits

Maybe there is something to the idea that the Jeff Carter and Mike Richards trades out of Philadelphia were really about more than the hockey.

That's the inclination I have after seeing what Philadelphia Daily News' Dan Gross reported on Monday.

Two unnamed players said that the Flyers front office was disappointed in Carter and Richards' longstanding party lifestyle and that teammates were concerned about the pair's drinking.

Shortly after his arrival in December 2009, coach Peter Laviolette instituted what players came to call the "Dry Island." Laviolette asked team members to commit to not drinking for a month, and each player was asked to write his number on a locker room board as a pledge. No. 17 (Carter) and No. 18 (Richards) were absent from the board on the first Dry Island, as well as the estimated five more times the policy was instituted.

In a phone interview Thursday, Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren confirmed that Richards and Carter hadn't put their numbers on the board, but said there had been others who declined. "We carry 23 players and there wasn't 23 numbers up there."

It's not as if this comes out of left field. There had long been plenty of talk about Carter (shipped to the Columbus Blue Jackets) and Richards (traded to the Los Angeles Kings) being fans of having fun. So for those who believed the scuttlebutt, this will add more fuel to their fire.

But Holmgren and Carter's agent say the partying is a moot point; the moves were all about the game.

Holmgren was "really upset that this is out there. That's our locker room. Our inner sanctum. Our board. Someone's crossing a line here," in discussing the Dry Island.

Holmgren also said it was "preposterous" that partying was factored into the decision to trade Richards and Carter. "As far as Mike and Jeff are concerned, we made two good hockey trades that will better suit us now and for the future. Columbus is happy, L.A. is happy and the Flyers are happy with the deal."

Carter's agent, Rick Curran, told us it was "bull----" to suggest that the two were traded because of their partying. "You're telling me a number of accusations [that] they are out partying and not focused on hockey. For someone to suggest that behind doors without having the balls to come out publicly, consider it for what it is," Curran told us.

This could be a situation where both are telling the truth. Perhaps the two former Flyers did have a penchant for partying and that could have had nothing to do with their exits. Anything is possible. But none of it is helping the perception of either player, especially in Richards' case as he did wear the C in Philly.

Personally, I thought Richards and Carter got bum raps on their way out of town, taking some parting shots about the organization not going any farther with them. Seems to me they did all right for themselves, reaching the Stanley Cup Finals with, to put it nicely, subpar goaltending on one occasion and helping the Flyers into annual contenders.

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Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2011 11:53 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Sensitive Philly fans...I never said anything about Pittsburgh girls...I am just saying you need beer goggles to look at Philly girls..well that and those hideous Flyers uniforms..

Since: Dec 16, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:55 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Transitioning sports, the Tigers did the same thing, allegedly. Supposedly, it was a silent reason for why they shipped Granderson and Thames to New York. Rumor was they were "present" when the Cabrera incident happened the night before game 163 in Minnesota.

In all reality, what does it matter? They didn't break any laws, as far as we know, and showed up to the rink ready to play.

Since: Dec 26, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:22 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Completely irresponsible reporting.  To print a story inferring drinking with ZERO factual  evidence is pathetic.  Earth to CBS ... hockey players drink.  If you'd like to point to excess drinking that altered the outcome of a game .. then do that.  This blind conjecture is pathetic reporting.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:18 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

iconmatt,your women look better than ours.What are you age wise about ten 14 tops.There are good looking women everywhere and that is without exception.

Since: Apr 23, 2010
Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:06 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Patrick Kane got drunk and beat up a cabbie, then stole from him. Yet, he's still a Blackhawk. If this truly is the reason for moving Richards and Carter, it's a pretty weak one, especially when compared to Kane.

Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2011 9:59 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Huh....if I read this correctly, yes, this NEWS isn't NEW it is 2 years old.
They were friends and they were seen out drinking on the town.  What would you do if you were that young?
This had nothing to do with them getting traded.  Any hockey player knows you go out for a few after the game.

Since: Jul 17, 2011
Posted on: July 26, 2011 9:55 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

they news isnt't new it's like 2 years old   

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: July 26, 2011 9:32 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Lukyluke I lived in Pittsburgh for a couple of years while working and trust me when I say, the girls in Pittsburgh arn't in the same ballpark they're not in the same friggin league as Philly girls. The best looking girl I saw in Pittsburgh was at a strip club and she was about 40 with a c-section scar trying to give lap dances. Pittsburgh is a decent city but the women look like a bunch of Kathy Bates and the beer taste's like a sack of a-holes!

On to the story, as far as the partying goes. I live at the Jersey shore and would see Carter out all the time but he never looked like he was drop dead drunk and sloppy, the only thing sloppy was some of the girls he used to be with. You would think he would get some hot chicks but damn there is no shame in that boys game. Never really saw Richards out, he was rumored to be big in Old City in Philly and that's not my area so I can't speak on him, but what I can say is although I disliked the Richards trade I can understand it from a hockey point of view. Richards NTC was about to kick in, the flyers were destroyed on the boards by the Bruins and needed some size, Simmonds gives them some more snarl and Schenn has tremendous upside and looked real good at rookie camp a few weeks back. If and that's a BIG IF, this kid is all that he's hyped up to be then Flyers should be ok. These trades were about shaking up foundation because lets face it it has been what 35, 36 years since a cup so maybe a bit of a new direction was needed. GO FLYERS!!!

PS. Pittsburgh girls & Philly girls still can't beat the JERSEY GIRLS!!!! and i'm not talking about the New Yorkers who pose as Jersey girls on MTV!

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2011 1:54 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Maybe when you pay a guy a gazillion dollars per year, you feel like like he should be at your beck-and-call 24/7; maybe the road to hell is paved with good intentions too, huh!  I think that if you take an objective look at what Richards and Carter bring on a regular basis, a realist may conclude that these guys are over-paid, but their egos would never let them take a cut in pay..., so move them now and never look back.  Neither is going to be the difference in a Stanley Cup run although I give the edge to LA over Columbus.  I still think Philly could have had Halak at the 2010 trade deadline, but Bryzgalov is very good also..., didn't he get a DUI about a year ago?

Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2011 12:40 am

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

goflyer...dykadelic much ? ha

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