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Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Posted on: July 25, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: July 25, 2011 12:43 pm
 

By Brian Stubits

Maybe there is something to the idea that the Jeff Carter and Mike Richards trades out of Philadelphia were really about more than the hockey.

That's the inclination I have after seeing what Philadelphia Daily News' Dan Gross reported on Monday.

Two unnamed players said that the Flyers front office was disappointed in Carter and Richards' longstanding party lifestyle and that teammates were concerned about the pair's drinking.

Shortly after his arrival in December 2009, coach Peter Laviolette instituted what players came to call the "Dry Island." Laviolette asked team members to commit to not drinking for a month, and each player was asked to write his number on a locker room board as a pledge. No. 17 (Carter) and No. 18 (Richards) were absent from the board on the first Dry Island, as well as the estimated five more times the policy was instituted.

In a phone interview Thursday, Flyers General Manager Paul Holmgren confirmed that Richards and Carter hadn't put their numbers on the board, but said there had been others who declined. "We carry 23 players and there wasn't 23 numbers up there."

It's not as if this comes out of left field. There had long been plenty of talk about Carter (shipped to the Columbus Blue Jackets) and Richards (traded to the Los Angeles Kings) being fans of having fun. So for those who believed the scuttlebutt, this will add more fuel to their fire.

But Holmgren and Carter's agent say the partying is a moot point; the moves were all about the game.

Holmgren was "really upset that this is out there. That's our locker room. Our inner sanctum. Our board. Someone's crossing a line here," in discussing the Dry Island.

Holmgren also said it was "preposterous" that partying was factored into the decision to trade Richards and Carter. "As far as Mike and Jeff are concerned, we made two good hockey trades that will better suit us now and for the future. Columbus is happy, L.A. is happy and the Flyers are happy with the deal."

Carter's agent, Rick Curran, told us it was "bull----" to suggest that the two were traded because of their partying. "You're telling me a number of accusations [that] they are out partying and not focused on hockey. For someone to suggest that behind doors without having the balls to come out publicly, consider it for what it is," Curran told us.

This could be a situation where both are telling the truth. Perhaps the two former Flyers did have a penchant for partying and that could have had nothing to do with their exits. Anything is possible. But none of it is helping the perception of either player, especially in Richards' case as he did wear the C in Philly.

Personally, I thought Richards and Carter got bum raps on their way out of town, taking some parting shots about the organization not going any farther with them. Seems to me they did all right for themselves, reaching the Stanley Cup Finals with, to put it nicely, subpar goaltending on one occasion and helping the Flyers into annual contenders.

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Comments

Since: Dec 1, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:31 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

One might wonder if drinking effected Carter in the past 4 playoffs. All he seemed to do was miss point blank shots the past 4 postseasons. Maybe he saw two nets after listening to Lou Gramm singing "Double Vision" on his headphones. Guess we will never know. Pressure is off in Columbus. He will put up his meaningless regular season stats and may only make the playoffs once or twice to potentially redeem his postseason choker label in the next decade of partying with OSU students.

I am not pleased with trading Richards. Despite his struggles this spring, he was balls to the walls in 2010. His goal vs Montreal to help win the Wales is something I will always remember. Atleast Richards had some memorable postseason moments. My lasting memory of Carter is missing top shelf on Niemi after Hartnell tied game 6. 



Since: Sep 10, 2007
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:21 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Haha so they trade for Jakub Voracek?  All Voracek does is drink, he's shown up to games still drunk from the night before!



Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 9:15 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

I think they were partying with each other in the locker room shower. Go Rangers!



Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 8:27 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

I heard Carcillo put himself in a straight jacket for "dry island", probably him and Leino out gettin hammered leaked the story last week.   Since it's July, I would appreciated more baseless speculation on who leaked the story from Holmgren's "inner Sanctum".



Since: Jun 23, 2011
Posted on: July 25, 2011 8:20 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

Richards is a bum and that will be proven this year when he flops in LA.



Since: Mar 26, 2011
Posted on: July 25, 2011 7:28 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

This was a secondary issue for the Flyers I think. Cap space was a big driver, and the "last call" to move Richards before his NTC came in I'm sure were a part of the trade also.

Somebody did violate the sanctity of the dressing room though, and that to me is the bigger story- who is the mole?




Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2011 7:14 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

i doubt partying had anything to do with this move. if this were the case they would have been moved before, to me trading carter was to make room for bryzgalov. i don't get the trading of richards and i probably never will but i highly doubt it was because he liked to have a few beers here and there



Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2011 7:10 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

luke...us philly girls are a hell of a lot better looking than those dogs you have in pittsburgh and i'm not just making a statement without fact...i've actually been to pittsburgh and it was scary looking at those mugs



Since: Aug 30, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 6:38 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

I seriously doubt this was the reason.  The article didn't really say they were out partying to all hours of the night.  Besides, you don't need to be drinking to stay out all night.  Could it be they avoiding doing the pledge because they felt they didn't want to be hipocrites?  I have a couple of friends they are dedicated to working out, but have 1 beer later in the evening of their workouts and that is the only time they drink. 



Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: July 25, 2011 6:00 pm
 

Partying played part in Carter, Richards moves?

They needed beer goggles to look at all those "fine" looking ladies in Philly


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