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Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

Posted on: July 30, 2011 1:39 pm
Edited on: July 30, 2011 1:57 pm
FraserBy: Adam Gretz

The Los Angeles Kings are still arguing that the Edmonton Oilers misrepresented the health status of forward Colin Fraser prior to last month's trade that sent Ryan Smyth back to Alberta. As a result, the Kings reportedly filed a grievance with the NHL on Friday night, according to Helene Elliott of the Los Angeles Times.

Frasher was acquired by the Kings around the time of the NHL draft in a deal that sent the veteran Smyth back to the team that originally drafted him, after he had a requested a trade that would return him closer to his home province of Alberta. The original deal was supposed to involve forward Gilbert Brule, but because the Kings had conerns over Brule's health, the deal was re-worked to include Fraser and a draft pick.

After the Kings received Fraser, the club realized he hadn't fully healed from a foot injury that sidelined him during the 2010-11 season which has been the center of controversy regarding the deal. Kings general manager Dean Lombardi claimed that the Oilers front office told him Fraser was just days away from being able to return to hockey activities, only to have the Kings learn that the veteran forward still had an unhealed fracture in his foot, among other complications related to the injury, and would require additional surgery.

He underwent surgery earlier this week to repair the fracture, while his agent, Jerry Johansen, told Elliott that his client will eventually be 100 percent, even if there is no immediate timetable for his return.

The grievance will be heard by commissioner Gary Bettman who will decide if the Oilers did, in fact, misrepresent Fraser's injury.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 16, 2011 3:52 am
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Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: August 2, 2011 8:15 am

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

You wonder why the King's went public
Lombardi's thoughts and reactions about EDM's front office went public, that's what most people are referring to.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: August 2, 2011 2:21 am

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

Well , most if you people are saying " if the King's had looked at the X-ray " , you can't look at any teams x-rays , as you never know what you're looking at . The reason they didn't find out , is when Fraser showed up for the examiation , from the team's doctors . That's why they are claiming foul . Did the Oilers do that ? Probably , as they are in money troubles . You wonder why the King's went public , no they didn't . The league posted it , and they do to the media . I'm not saying they , the Oilers , did it , but I'm not saying that they didn't either . But , when a player missed most of the season , and then the team trades him , you never know . At least , until the league finds oit what happened .

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: August 1, 2011 2:11 pm

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

1 x-ray would have solved everything. L.A. its still a business and you have to do your homework.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: July 31, 2011 10:33 pm

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

I am not a fan of gratuitous comments and that is why I decided not to respond to becco's barb.  I know that he was directing this to two individuals, but it was one of the most unnecessarily insulting posts that I can recall reading, (unnecessary, because it said nothing and was not thought provocative.)  It would have been fine with me if he disagreed with hockeybob and BUCCS469.  But I have to say that I found nothing self-evidentialy illogical about what they wrote.  What is "artarded" about them?

No, hockeybob, has summed it up rather well with:
Nothing quite puts one's hockey thoughts on a higher level than insulting people while contributing no tangible counter-point.

As for now, beeco, I am of the opinion that you are an idiot.  If you actually wrote something in response, then we could engage in a discussion.  Why even bother posting a dead end message?

Incidentally, I do think that the Kings have made this situation farcical.  With another NHL CBA coming to an end, with the still-fresh memory of the last CBA debacle, the bullet dodged by the NFL, and the soon-to-be irrelevant NBA, all teams should put their best foot forward.  I agree that the Kings handled this the wrong way.  Of course, that just makes me another artard.  If you agree, then I will wear that badge proudly.

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: July 31, 2011 10:13 am

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

"Hey Bozo's,...I'm talking to hockeybob, and BUCCS469. it suprises me that anyone with such low IQ's could operate a computer. Why post your 'opinions' on a public board, and let everyone know what artards you are. Really sad. The only thing that's lacking in the NHL is fans like you. I know,....the truth hurts. Go back to baskeball, it's simpler, and takes less intelligence. I could say more, but it wouldn't be understood by you two."
Wow beeco, not sure what I stated that offended your hockey sensibilities.  Maybe you are a fan of NHL gms acting like unprofessional whiners publicly, maybe you think Pulford was a great hockey mind/coach/gm/president, or maybe you're a huge Lombardi fan or something else along those lines.    Nothing quite puts one's hockey thoughts on a higher level than insulting people while contributing no tangible counter-point.    I promise to get help (since I obviously couldn't comprehend meaningful posts like your previous one) understanding your thoughtful, intelligent, and well articulated thoughts on the subject if you're finished with the personal attacks.  

Since: Mar 26, 2011
Posted on: July 31, 2011 2:51 am

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

@Nut: First, I'm a Kings season seat holder for 30+ yrs, and I don't like the way that DL has handled this by going into the public arena. This should have been worked out behind the scenes, then file a grievance if it doesn't work. Nobody will publicly say this, but I think the intent was to waive Fraser anyway. EDM was looking for payroll relief to pick up Smyth's 6.25 payday (he'll be the highest paid Oiler next year). The league S.O.P. in these circumstances is to then rely on doctor's reports. What I don't know is whether or not S.O.P. is to look at X-rays and the records or not. Remember, this is a re-worked trade that the Kings needed to get done if they were going to pursue Brad Richards b/c they need Smyth's cap space. So, an unattempted resolution means a foregone opportunity. You can hang than on the Kings if you want, but most other clubs in the league would operate the same way b/c of the UFA season starting with a hard date on 7/1.

The problem is that a player cannot be waived until he is cleared to play. If the player can't be cleared to play for another 4 months, then the purpose of the trade is defeated. I do admit there are some things that I don't get here 1. DL's public posturing and 2. Why the S.O.P. on these types of trades is to rely on the reports. 3. If the idea was to keep Fraser, why not work the deal to get Cogliano who was dealt to the Ducks two weeks later anyway?

One thing I'm pretty confident of is the Kings don't want the trade nullified. Now that Gagne has been signed, L.A. would have to tinker with the roster to get Doughty in under the cap. 

Since: Jul 28, 2011
Posted on: July 30, 2011 11:58 pm

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

Let me see if I have this right. The Kings doctors are complete idiots so now they are blaming the Oilers of mis-remembering Frasers injuries. Now they want Daddy to bale them out of their bad decision making. On top of it all, they want to make it public knowledge that they or their doctors are completly incompetent.

Now if I may-
Let me predict Bettmans verdict in laymans terms for those that aren't politically correct or lawyers. When the verdict of the grievence is announced, it will be able to be interpreted something like this:

I find the Kings to be incredibly massive tools and extreme crybabies. For Christ's sake... put on your big boy pants a suck up your poor moves. You are responsible for those that advise you in your decision making. May be next time you'll pay attention dumb!!@@#*. I find the defendant innocent! Are you kidding me? We are are held accountable for our actions! Dont blame someone else. No... It's your fault!  

Since: May 15, 2009
Posted on: July 30, 2011 10:42 pm

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

i'm sure if the oilers knew this, they wouldn't have done the trade.  Too much history for trades between these if it was Calgary, then it would be  a different story....... lol, and the flames would have deserved it......i'm sure this will get fixed appropriately.

Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: July 30, 2011 10:03 pm

Kings file grievance over Colin Fraser injury

When a player forces a trade in the new salary-cap'd era a GM is always gonna get screwed.  That is how it is.

No offense to Lou, but this is the new reality.  Apparently he thinks the Sens were happy to get the then clearly roughed up Cheechoo-train to Ottawa a few seasons ago thanks to Heatley shenanigans.  Players demanding trades is a screw-job to every GM, getting all emo about the results doesn't do much of anything in the end.  Would he like Brule added or $500k as compensation?  That is the sad reality of the grievence at this point.  All these Alberta based NHL stars with their entitlement issues keep screwiing up the NHL for good hardworking non-Alberta kids,

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