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More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Posted on: August 22, 2011 7:29 pm
Edited on: August 22, 2011 7:42 pm

By: Adam Gretz

Are you ready for some more reports on Sidney Crosby's status for the start of the regular season (and yet more denials of those reports)?

If so, you're in luck, because CTV out of Halifax, Nova Scotia, reported on Monday that Crosby has suffered another setback in his recovery, stopped his workouts, and may not be ready for the start of the regular season. As expected, Crosby's agent quickly denied the report.

If you've heard this song before, it's because it's been playing on a non-stop loop for the past six months (or more).

From CTV:
Sources say Crosby's concussion symptoms returned last week and he cancelled all of his scheduled on-ice workouts at a Halifax-area rink.

Penguins players are expected to appear at training camp in mid-September and it appears Crosby will not be one of them.
Think back to last week when a nearly identical report surfaced from Josh Rimer of SiriusXM Radio, only to have the Penguins quickly address it, with general manager Ray Shero saying, "Training camp is a month away, so there's no expectation for me that he won't be ready or will be ready. He's doing his usual routine. He'll probably be in a week before camp starts. We'll evaluate him then."

This time it's Crosby's agent, Pat Brisson, doing the talking. Brisson said, via the Associated Press, that Crosby "hasn't been shut down by anyone and has instead adjusted his summer program to address the different needs for his recovery."

And 'round and 'round we go.

The fact this is still an issue at this point, with no clear idea of whether or not he will be ready for the season or how his recovery is really going, is a definite concern -- especially on the same day a former NHL player announced his retirement because doctors told him his concussion history made it unsafe for him to continue playing. But, as has been the case throughout this entire process, the only person that seems to have any definitive idea as to what's going on is Crosby himself, and he's not talking.

It's Aug. 22, and we don't know whether Crosby will be on the ice for the Penguins when training camp opens (let alone the regular season), and it's obvious that we won't know that for sure until he is or isn't on the ice when the Penguins open camp.

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Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2011 1:13 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Rudegger: Have you read my post??? I'm not "having him" #5: HE RANKS #5 in the all-time points-per-game average category. It's a FACT. I never said that he was my #5 best player of all time. When I said that he was in a class apart, I specified "compared to players FROM HIS GENERATION"; and I also mentionned that the stat I'm using is specific to offensive skills.
So let me sum it up: you can't understand my 3-sentences message and  then you insult me based on nationality??? Who's the idiot?

Since: Jun 1, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:46 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Talent wise, it's easy to see why Crosby is in a top 10 list. In reality, he might be higher. He's leaps ahead of second best in the an NHL that includes Alexander Ovechkin, Steve Stamkos, and Jonathon Toews.

He couldn't last more than a few years in the league? He might be the first major athlete to NOT want to risk brain damage to play a game. He has a cup, an MVP, and a scoring title. If he retires, his legacy will not be about what he did on the ice. It'll be about how the NHL finally got its act together to take dirty hits out of the game because it lost its best player....

Crosby will play again, but it might not be this year. It might be after the NHL realizes it should protect its best players and eliminate guys willing to throw an elbow to get a paycheck...

Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:23 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

I knew some idiot would come along and place the KID on his top ten of all time list.
And I hate it when people use offensive statistics to "prove" how good a hockey player is.
The KID couldn' last a few years in the game.  You're going to have him #5?  Seriously?
Let me're Canadian...

Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:20 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Sidney Crosby has a lot of talent, there is no question about it.  But he's not tough enough to play hockey.  It's that simple.  He came into the league whining to the refs or to anyone who would listen.  He lived in Mario Lemieux's basement for years.  I think it was 2010 when he finally moved out.  Sid 'the Kid" is an appropriate moniker.  For all the talent, and the big victories, he is still an immature hockey player.  We will never now see the true potential, because even IF he comes back, he won't be the same.  He came into the league like Lindros, trying to be everything to everyone, dazzled by the hype and blind to the fact they were being fed to the wolves.

Since: Apr 4, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:14 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

As a Wings fan, I don't care to much for Crosby, however I hope he makes it back. The NHL needs him and is a better league with guys as good as him playing. That being said lets end a debate. Datsyuk is the best hockey player in the league.

Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:14 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

If you're gonna use statistics to argue about it, go to the address below and look at the career points-per-game stat (no statistic is perfect but this one is pretty global and reliable when judging one's offensive skills). Don't only chose a couple of numbers here and there that fit in your idea.

Crosby is all-time # 5. No other player from his generation (except Ovie who is # 7) is even close to that nor on the way to come close to that. Crosby is clearly in a class apart (along with Ovie), especially considering how hockey is played today.


Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:13 pm

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Latest from pittsburgh.

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 11:19 am

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

It would be totally cool if Crosby were sandbagging this whole time, secretly training his ass off to get into the best shape of his life. Then, halfway through the Winter Classic, the Heinz PA starts playing "Eye of the Tiger" (or "It's Raining Men" for all the Crosby haters), the rink announcer screams "'Good Lord! That's His Music!', and Crosby comes skating in full-blast, takes his place at center, scores a hat trick, practically kills guys in two fights, and wins the game in overtime by blowing past Ovechkin then beating Neuvirth on an impossible bar-down laser.

And yes, I have about as much faith in the integrity of Betmann's NHL as I have in McMahon's WWE.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 11:01 am

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

I am not a big Crosby fan but the kid can play the game. The person we need to blame for this is Gary Bettman. He put the instigator penalty into the game which made it impossible for teams to have enforcers to protect players such as Crosby. For people that are older like myself remember that no one ever went after or took runs at Wayne Gretzky because they knew that Marty McSorley would have kicked there butt and then went after that teams superstar. No one went after Steve Yzerman either because he had Probert,Kocur, or McCarty to watch his back.
Who was watching Sid's back? No one because of Gary Bettman and his stupid rule changes.
If you look back before that instigator penalty was put in you had a lot less hits to head, hits from behind,high sticks now it is a free for all on the ice because the players are no longer allowed to police themselves without hurting their team.

He put a team's in Phoenix, Atlanta, Florida, Tampa,Columbus because he wanted to expand the NHL.  The only team not on this list that draws less attendance is NY Islanders which tells you Bettman is a Idiot.

He signed the NHL to a long term contract with Versus's and would not even negotiate with ESPN who wanted the NHL.
I know there are people that think Gary Bettman has done great things for the NHL but I dont think so.

So if Crosby comes back I really dont think he will be the player he was before for the game I hope I am wrong
If he doesnt make it back at all we have lost a very good player in the prime of his career.
Just remember we have one person to thank... Gary Bettman

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 23, 2011 10:57 am

More Sidney Crosby reports, denials

Hockey is a business, and even Sid can't hold a team hostage for another year, If he is going to shut it down he has to make some kind of decision this year to free up his contract money so the team can move on.   

Good point Burgh boy, I didn't even think about that one bit but you bring up a great point.  That being said NHL rules allow for a player to be put on injured reserve, his salary won't count against the cap and the minimum that player has to stay on IR is only 7 days so the Pens will always have the flexibility they need to do what they have to do.   Here's the problem though.  The only problem though is even if they know he's going to be out a while, what happens if Crosby wants to try and come back 20 games into the season?  What do the Pens do with whoever they replace him with if and when he does come back? They probably won't have room under the cap to bring Crosby back and keep whatever players they acquired to replace him, unless they just use minor league players it's tough to do.

I think the solution is somebody needs to make a long term decision and stick to it.  If Crosby after all these months and all the time he's had to rest is still having fairly serious issues it might be a great idea to make a decision early on to sit him for the entire season.  This would allow the Pens to go out and if possible make a big trade if necessary to get somebody in there that can lead the first or 2nd line for this season. I don't know who that player would be or what the Pens would have to give up but I don't think they can do what they did last season for the entire 2011-2012 season.  Crosby not playing and not being replaced could be very bad for the Pens season.

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