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Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:11 am
Edited on: September 14, 2011 4:47 pm
 

By Brian Stubits

According to reports, the Sabres are close to locking down their young star Tyler Myers with a long-term extension. He is set to become a restricted free agent after next season when his entry-level contracts expire.

TSN's Bob McKenzie says Myers' deal would likely be in the six-year range for roughly $5.5 million per season, about the same length and money the Islanders just gave to John Tavares. Although Myers could be looking at an additional year onto the six years thrown out by McKenzie, according to ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun.

Myers made an immediate impact in the NHL, earning the Calder Memorial Trophy for the league's top rookie. Standing 6-feet-8, he is a massive presence, who almost seems stronger than even he knows. His offensive numbers did dip a bit in his second season, recording 10 fewer assists and one less goal, but he's still seen as a huge part of the team's plan moving forward (literally and figuratively). Myers attributed his step back last season to trying to do too much.

If it goes through, it would be a pretty hefty price tag and the Sabres would clearly be banking on Myers showing his freshman year form again down the line.

A couple of other contract updates while we're at it here:

  The Maple Leafs appear to also be on the verge of a deal with their young star Luke Schenn (Toronto Sun)

  However the Coyotes and Kyle Turris don't appear to be any closer to an extension in their negotiations. (Andy Strickland)

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 15, 2011 4:17 pm
 

Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

Why wait until the end of the year when some clown team offers him much more than that?

That's the thing. Nobody was ever going to offer him anything after this season or after next season or the season after that.  He's nowhere near the point where he becomes an UFA so what are you talking about?  Are you talking about an offer sheet as a restricted free agent? Nobody is offering Doughty on LA a contract for a reason.  There is a code among NHL general managers that says nobody puts an offer sheet together for another team's star player or potential star player.   Stamkos was a RFA and not one team handed him an offer sheet. The Toronto Maple Leafs needed a center and had the cap space and didn't offer him a nickel.  STAMKOS IS FROM A CITY JUST OUTSIDE TORONTO !!!  He grew up watching the Leafs and he has family there. Stamkos would have been happy as hell in Toronto, a dream come true.  And they needed him.... but there is a rule. The rule is that teams don't do that.... nobody would have offered Myers anything.

 In 4 years, he'll be in his prime and considered one of the elite D-Men in the NHL.

You don't know how any 21 year old kid is going to perform next season, let alone in 4 or 5 years. Nobody knows anything.... 

ah...just another reason why the dynasty has started....LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!

Dynasty?  Yeah, ok.  Like I said Buffalo is an up and coming team and in the east could very well do some damage.  But don't you have to at least make it to the Stanley Cup Finals a couple times before you can use the word "dynasty"??? 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 15, 2011 2:51 pm
 

Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

redwing you constantly shouw your ignorance with your posts.  Perhaps you should watch a game or two of Myers before you try to evaluate signings.

First of all save your insults like your first line above for the school yard.  You wanna talk hockey? Let's do it.  If you're not capable of being an adult and talking hockey then stop responding to my posts.  If you wanna talk hockey I'm all for it, that's why I'm here.

You underestimate how big a fan I am of the NHL, and not just the Wings. I've watched a lot more Sabres games then you think I have the last couple years. Ever heard of NHL Center Ice?  Again, I'm a huge HOCKEY fan and I watch a ton of hockey, more then you'll ever know.  I've watched a ton of Buffalo games the last couple seasons and yes, Myers is a very nice young dman with tremendous potential.  What I'm saying is that a kid that's played 2 seasons in the NHL, won rookie of the year once and regressed some the second year shouldn't be entitled to a 5.5 million dollar per season deal long term.  That's a CRAZY contract, no less crazier then many others you mentioned.  Why?  Because you, I or the Sabres have NO IDEA if what he did his first year will be repeated let alone if he's going to improve and become a star in the NHL.   That's what makes this contract a huge risk for the Sabres. The numbers he's put up so far and most recently last year don't support a 5.5 million per season deal.

A few other facts to throw at you, guys playing the blue line making 6 million or more.  Chris Pronger, Zdeno Chara, Paul Martin(5.5), Kevin Bieksa, Brent Seabrook, Duncan Keith, James Wisniewski, Shea Weber, Lidstrom, Brian Campbell, Jay Bouwmeester, Dion Phaneuf, Markov(5.75).

A few things to remember before you compare him and his situation to the above players.  There are reasons why the players you mentioned got paid what they did. First of all, Chris Pronger and Lidstrom got paid for what they accomplished in the past just as much as what their teams expect from them now.  Myers hasn't accomplished 1 percent of what those 2 players have accomplished in their careers. Those 2 players demand respect and they get respect based on the past.  That's how it works in all sports today.

Guys like Seabrook and Duncan Keith had better seasons, better numbers and more success over a longer period of time on the ice then Myers as well, and are still in their prime. They won a Stanley cup which means a lot as well..... like it or not, it means a lot to their respective teams and they got rewarded.  

Kevin Bieksa's cap hit is only 4 million dollars, not 5.5.  And he was an UFA where there are bidding wars because teams don't have to compensate the team he's leaving.  Wisniewski was grossly overpaid but once again, an UFA where players get overpaid.  Paul Martin, also an UFA when the Pens signed him.  Shea Weber?  Do you HONESTLY put Myers in the same class as Weber RIGHT NOW? If you do then good for you, but you won't find many impartial hockey fans that'll agree with you on that one.  Bouwmeester was an UFA when he got paid as well.  Dion Phaneuf was runner up for the Norris trophy and should have actually won the Norris over Lidstrom that year, Myers hasn't come close to a season like that.   Campbell had an unbelievable season the season before he signed that deal, once again much better then Myers did.  Markov is completely overpaid, Montreal is stupid.

I'm not even saying all of the above players are worth what they are making in the NHL today, but at least there are reasons for it and reasons why their respective teams committed big money to these players. What I"m saying is the Sabres didn't HAVE TO pay Myers that kind of money. At worst he would become a RFA and never land a deal like that through negotiations or through arbitration.....  that's the difference.  The Sabres did this on there own, basically bidding against themselves because nobody else is forcing their hand like they would if he was an UFA.  The Sabres were in the drivers seat and didn't have to give in to a big money deal at Myers age.. but they did.

You're allowed to agree with the deal, just like I'm allowed to disagree..... and please stop with the "jealous" crap.  What am I jealous of?  For years I've been hearing the Wings will suck, the Wings are old, bla bla bla.  The Wings have the longest playoff streak in sports today. The Wings have 6 finals appearances the last 16 years with 4 cups during that stretch.  Two of those appearances and 1 cup win was in the post cap era.  

Yes, the Sabres are and up and coming team, I have no problem with them. But to imply that a Wings fan is jealous of the Sabres is ludicrous man.... c'mon.  Jealous of what?  How many times have the Sabres had a better season then the Wings the last 20 years?

 



Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: September 15, 2011 1:46 am
 

Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

redwing you constantly shouw your ignorance with your posts.  Perhaps you should watch a game or two of Myers before you try to evaluate signings.  Here's a couple facts.  In 2 NHL seasons he's accumulated 21 goals and 64 assists for 85 points.  He had a miserable 1st half of the season last year in which his +/- was atrocious and he managed to get to even and is a +13 as a YOUNG DEFENSMAN.  Keep in mind it's rare to find a guy that has as much offensive awareness as him and yet still manages to keep that stat in check.  A few other facts to throw at you, guys playing the blue line making 6 million or more.  Chris Pronger, Zdeno Chara, Paul Martin(5.5), Kevin Bieksa, Brent Seabrook, Duncan Keith, James Wisniewski, Shea Weber, Lidstrom, Brian Campbell, Jay Bouwmeester, Dion Phaneuf, Markov(5.75).  Now of those 13 guys making at/above or near 6 mil, I'd probably have to comfortably say I'd rather have Myers at his young age and talent over about 60 to 70% of them.  You need to worry more about the decline of your Red Wings and their creeky bones and stop trolling on articles about a team you clearly don't watch.  Yes Myers has his downfalls, yes there were times he looked lost last season, but when the mid point to the season came and he could either have a horrible sophomore year as so many players do....he didn't fall apart, he got better, he started making less mistakes, started getting in the offense more, and all around looked like the guy we saw the year before.  If that isn't worth 5.5 million when other teams are paying 6 or more for Brian Campbell!!! or Dion Phaneuf!!!  or Bouwmeester!!!, Those 3 names right there signify some of the most overrated guys in teh entire NHL.  And what about Duncan Keith? a 70point defenseman scores his big paycheck and proceeds to drop his production by about 40% in a single season?  Come on buddy...you can criticize it all you want, but in the end, your just jealous that the Sabres are about to lock up a great future.



Since: Oct 8, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 8:35 pm
 

Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

Post lockout winners of the Calder Trophy: Ovie, Malkin, Kane, Steve Mason, Myers and most recently Jeff Skinner. Yeah these kids seem to really be "struggling" after winning rookie of the year...




Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 7:21 pm
 

Sabres defenseman Myers close to extension

I could not be happier with this contract extension. Myers is an up and coming star that has all the physical attributes and skills to be an elite defensemen. I like the aggressive approach. Under Terry Pegula there will be no more Drury and Briere mishaps. No more we will only negotionate contracts at the end of the season non sense. Now all they need to do is lock of Tyler Ennis for the long haul and see what some of our other young talents can do this season (Foligono, Kassian, Adam). Super pumped for the season to start. Sabres will be a serious contender as long as they can stay healthy (dereck Roy).




Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:03 pm
 

Isles' Tavares, Sabres' Myers close to extensions

Look at all the Buffalo haters...haha love it.  Tavares and Myers both are worth that money.  They're up and coming stars that have no risk whatsoever.  You clowns are obviously from the West becasue you don't have a clue about Myers.  In fact, you're basing your argument on offensive production for a 6-8 D-Man.  Myers is an amazing physical specimen....the guy's absolutely huge, can lay the boom down on anybody (name me one guy on your hometown heroes that can blow up Chara) and can skate and stickhandle like most forwards.  He'll be on the 1st line pairing with arguably the best defensive unit in the NHL this year.  You guys have the typical Western mindset....let's overpay for aging veterans or guys just turning into their prime.  Let's build those "dreamteams" of "names" that never work out.  Haha clowns.

It's a brilliant move by Darcy.  We're obviously going to keep Tyler here long-term.  Why wait until the end of the year when some clown team offers him much more than that?  He's gonna get 5 million easily after the season...lock him up now for the long-term.  In 4 years, he'll be in his prime and considered one of the elite D-Men in the NHL.  With the way salaries are going, 4 years from now he'll probably command 9 million easy....we got him for 5.5.  Same with Erhoff.....we'll still have him 4 years from now...by that time he'll be making about 1.5 mil per year......ah...just another reason why the dynasty has started....LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 14, 2011 2:43 pm
 

Isles' Tavares, Sabres' Myers close to extensions

I hate to point out the obvious Wings...but I'm pretty sure Myers won a Rookie Of the Year two season ago.

I understand what you're saying but how does a rookie of the year award equate to 5.5 million dollars per season and a 4 to 6 year committment?   Some of these kids winning rookie of the year do extremely well for years after where others begin to struggle.  What I'm saying is 5.5 million dollars per season for a young dman that had one excellent season 2 years ago and one good season last year is a little much.   Let me ask you something.  If Myers is worth 5.5 million per season for let's say 4 to 6 years, then what's Drew Doughty worth?

Buffalo scored more goals and had a team goal differential very similar to the Kings.  Yet Doughty's offensive stats were just as good, a little better actually then Myers and his plus minus was off the charts better.  And the season before when Myers had his great rookie season Doughy's stats were significantly better that year as well.  They are both 21 years old I believe.  Advantage goes to Doughty for sure as a player......  

p.s I just read that Doughty turned down a 61 million dollar 9 year offer from the Kings.  Good luck to LA with that one.  Maybe they should have signed him a year ago before the crazy salaries came around again. They waited until the last second and BOOM....  big trouble.

I'm guessing Doughty is looking for one of two things, both are bad for LA.  One, a 4 year deal that'll take him to 26 years old when he can become an UFA in his prime and cash in big.  Or two, a 9 year deal for Crosby/Malkin/Ovie money.  Nothing in between I don't think.  LA is in big trouble. 



Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 2:06 pm
 

Isles' Tavares, Sabres' Myers close to extensions

Now there are kids at 21 that haven't proven or won anything that are being signed long term for 5.5 million dollars?


I hate to point out the obvious Wings...but I'm pretty sure Myers won a Rookie Of the Year two season ago.



Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 1:29 pm
 

Isles' Tavares, Sabres' Myers close to extensions

I smell trouble for Kenny Holland....
Good point, maybe Kenny saw it coming though and that's why he's hanging on to the cap space.   I think Stan Bowman saw it too, like a few other gms, notably Wilson, Poile, Yzerman, and Cheveldayoff.   Some other gms I think were anticipating something like this crazy rise in rfa prices too, but they've been restricted in their flexibility because of ownership.

Holland may be able to land one of these overprice "future stars", or he may be able to snag effective veterans at a discount as teams will have to shed salary to keep their young stars around.   I'm not convinced he's not ahead of the game, he's done okay before imo, just okay.

I wonder if Snow and Reighr are just rubbing it in Lombardi's and Burke's face at this point.   Boy, this trend is going to really mess up Tor, STL, Col, and EDM.    Tambellini and Lowe are going to watch their "master plan" implode with each of this signings, Col is watching itself climb further and further in the dumpster with each extension.  

Plenty of gms using "hand grenade market analysis" to sign their guys.   Friendly times for young players, free agents, and their reps. 

A whole bunch of these extensions are going to smell like garbage in couple seasons.  Good stuff.


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